Trigger pull too hard!

[PyRo]

Messing Up Your Gun Is Easy As 1 2 3

Originally posted by SINIKA CAPTAIN
1- Your trigger rod is presest by AGD but it can be adjusted its a time consuming process but it does work My friend has a DYE and i havea benchmark and my trigger pull is so light that i can hit the trigger sideways and it shoots know this is hours of srewing with my gun. Adjust the pin out about a half a turn and try it if it shoots alittle easier go alittle more if it then shoots worse take it back a 1/4 turn just play around with it.
2- If your mecanicaly inclined and can drill and tap your trigger to have adjustment screws like machine screws you can just about make it so short it will shoot itself drill one in the bottom to hit the back of your grip frame and one at the top to push the trigger inwards.
3- buy a benchmark iam 100% sold on there double finger grips they are made with a more milled out groove for the trigger rod so it shortens itself automatically once you put it on. Good luck and remember just play around with the trigger rod in and out it cant hurt to try right.

Your trigger rod is preset by agd to the leanth of 1.985. The fact that this measurement has to be down to a thousandth of an inch should be enough to keep your from messing with it. But some people like Sinka here don't get things easially. Messing with your rod can cause increased wear on bolts, on-off, and your sear, occasionally causing leaks, and even preventing the gun from fireing at all.
Ajustment screws are even worse, as these don't allow the rod to go all the way foward and make a full travel, this will cause the problems above, but will do more damage.
Benchmark frames are decent frames, yes. But it doesn't not ajust itself automatically.
Good luck if you tried this and rememeber, it can hurt to try.

[BlueMagRT]

every one thinks trigge rod is the magic adjustment that will make the tigger pull shorter and lighter. truth is the only thing the trigger rod does is toggle the sear. the trigger rod is set so that it releases the bolt just before the on/off pin is depressed and then to catch the bolt after it is finished bouncing off the bolt spacer and the valve is recharged.

most of the problems that occur in an Automag is caused by people messing with the carefully crafted parts of the gun.

[Automager]

What i did is got a bencht double trigger frame, then loosened the pin untill it was just touching the trigger"whne gassed up" i then polished my sear. I took my gun up to the local field and let some people shoot it. They said it was the best trigger pull they have ever felt on a mag and it took my 5 mins. to do. All mags are different so just tinker.

My 2 cents

[ShinyGuy]

The only thing you can do is change to a different grip frame. The benchmark has a lighter pull. The trade off is that the pull is a little longer. There is NO WAY to make the pull both lighter and shorter on a properly broken in mag. Polishing the sear will shorten the breakin time but may cause premature wear. The best thing to do is make sure the gun has had at least a couple of cases of paint through it and if that's not light enough try different grip frames until you find one you like.




Or you could just buy an E-mag.

[davej946]

New Rule Proposition:
The Mods should consider preventing members with < 100 posts from replying to posts in the Tech Forum. These new guys come in thinking they know what is what. Suggesting adjustable trigger stops, messing with the trigger rods, and polishing sears. These are the 3 Deadly Sins of the AutoMag! I have noted these user names, and will be sure to avoid their advice.

[OhMyAMoose]

Originally posted by davej946
New Rule Proposition:
The Mods should consider preventing members with < 100 posts from replying to posts in the Tech Forum. These new guys come in thinking they know what is what. Suggesting adjustable trigger stops, messing with the trigger rods, and polishing sears. These are the 3 Deadly Sins of the AutoMag! I have noted these user names, and will be sure to avoid their advice.

I think you are a moron. Just because people don't have many post it does not mean that they don't know anything. I have like 3 post but that is because I just found this place. I have been playing for like 6 years now and I am sure I know a good amount about paintball. I know I am not an expert but I am sure there are people with more than 100 post who know way less than I do. Itis fine to judge people on what they say but not on the amount of post they have. thank you

[Automager]

im with -OhMyAMoose- on that one. you cant base peoples knowledge, and experience based on the amount of posts they have.

[iisp0tii]

hell yes! you people say "oh dont mess with the automag, its so good as it comes" & other people say "just mess with it" i think everyone should shut up & keep there damn comments to them selfs & let people do what ever they want to there gun. they bought & paid for it (hopefully) so its there to mess around with. if they get somthing just right, whoopy. if they mess somthin up, oh well. if they break somthin, buy a new one. i think everyone should just do wahtever they want before i have to come bunker everyone with my modified mag w/ MY SHORTENED TRIGGER ROD!!!!!! ahahahahaha.

[FDB1]

Dave, a perfect example of what you explained in your last post is right above me.

He goes on the list of ignore

[pumpamatic]

I think Dave is somewhat right, biased as he may be. This sinika comes on here talking like an expert of trigger jobs, when I doubt he's heard all the horror stories. But then there are people like ricerocket(manny from aftershock) who are under a 100 posts, and know a helluva lot more about tourney play than me. But in cases like this post there are a bunch of people who don't have that much experience on what happens when you screw with what Tom has set, and have just posted a bunch of false info. I think the worse thing we can do is let people screw up their guns, then they come back whining. We're here to educate.

[SGTKennedy]

i just wonder why people are so inclined to change it. if it works shoot it. if you miss, dont blame it on the gun.

[ShinyGuy]

Yes there are alot of people that don't know what they're talking about. But the great part about an open forum is that when someone gives bad advise 6 other people will tell you why its a bad idea. The problem is that the same person isn't always right. I've corrected alot of misconceptions, but every now and then I say something wrong. More often then not someone corrects me and I learn something. If half the people can't speak you may be silencing the one person with the answer to your question.

[FooTemps]

I really think that banning people with under 100 posts from the tech forum is a bad idea. When I started out here I knew a lot about mags. I then came here and learned even more. I mean, I knew to not mess with the rod and sear unlike some idiots but I didn't know the difference between a foamie bolt and superbolt... It's just that our knowledge can't span over every aspect of mags until we are corrected.

[apache]

I wonder just how many of these people who are first to shout "don't screw with the rod, you can't do a trigger job" really have tried to do something creative with their Mag or are they just repeating what someone with 1000+ posts writes?

What I say next may offend the most sensitive of you so read on only if you think you can take it:

There ARE things you can do to your Mag ... and make it better than a completely stock one!

[The Mad Painter]

sure, there are some things. ive put a trigger stop on my benchmark for the sole purpose that while its a lighter pull, its a lot longer than the stock frame. it still pulls just a bit farther than it needs to, so i dont starve it out, but the point is, things can be done. messing with the rod causes wear. okay, but maybe people dont mind buying new parts every now and then at the cost of getting a nice trigger AT THE TIME. ive adjusted my rod before. killed my on off. will never do it again. but wait i did just a little, because i didnt learn. now my pull is not only lighter, but my on off as shown no wear other than one little knick in almost 7 months? so let the unskooled little children play with their mags. the first people who tried had to screw up to teach all of us the EASY wayof listening to whats right. but its fun to tinker, right or wrong. eventually they get smart, and probably smarter than most of us. shoot they're already smarter than me. course thats not an accomplishment, anyway, the morale of the story is, flaming comments should be kept to a minimun. dont flame unless responding to a DIRECT attack on yourself, and even then, keep it civilized. really, throwing in a dozen cuss words does about as much as pissing in one hand and wishing in the other. ya know whats gonna get filled first, so be smart and THINKbefore ya reply all the time. okay im done.