List of Automag Levels

[AGD]

For all you collectors out there I happened to come across my original listing of the different levels for the Mag and what was done in each. We didn't release the gun until level 5 so previous to that you will not find any. I am posting it here so I don't loose it again!

AGD

68AUTOMAG DESIGN UPDATES



Level 1:

Power tube polished and measured .385 x .600
Power tube spring full ground both sides .285 free length
Power tube insert turned for urethane o-ring and spring
On/off top turned for air flow
On/off pin ground and checked
Bolt trimmed to .275 deep to power piston
Ream inside regulator body for washer clearance
Jumbo nubbins

Level 2 09/21/90:

High strength front frame screw
Trim regulator valve for minimum clearance

Level 3 11/15/90:

Bronze power tube spring
Black spring pack
New twistlock and o-ringed barrel
Slotted power tube insert

Level 4 12/05/90:

Teflon o-ring for on/off valve
Washer for power tube

Level 5 01/01/91:

Rear nubbin ball drop

Level 5.1 02/11/91:

Milled frame to allow .750 pin

Level 5.2 04/09/91:

Extended, drilled power tube tip
Small ID power tube

Level 6.0 05/18/91:

Drop in sear
One piece barrel
Square spring
Wire nubbin
Large air chamber
Power Feed
Crown Point barrel

Level 6.5 08/21/91:

Extended power piston
Countersinked power tube tip

Level 6.6 11/11/91:

Computer designed power tube tip

Level 7.0 04/01/92:

Expanded air chamber with soldered on power tube tip

[LittlePaintballBoy]

Awesome, like a timeline of the mags evolution.

[Target Practice]

Holy crap, my micromag has a level 3 bronze powertube spring. Wicked!

[Muzikman]

TP: the Power Tube Spring was used well into the Level 7's. I am not sure exactly when it was changed over to the spacers, but it had to be about the time the RT came out. I have a TON of the PT springs as they came with every rebuild kit, but hardly ever went bad and by this time I had bought a Pro-Team spacer kit.

Hmm...this info will be good for my AGD time line I am building.

[ScatterPlot]

Sweeet!!!

[spasticsquirrel]

IM AT lv10!!!

i need a walkthrough though..

[Muzikman]

I now want a real explanation of what happened to Level 8 and 9. The claim is that they never existed and Level 10 just sounded better than level 8 or 9. But what about the RT and the Retro vavle. And then the X-Vavle, should that not be level 11?

[AGD]

There was no level 8 or 9. John Sosta in England drilled holes in the regulator and some people called that Level 8 but it never was. We decided on L10 because it wouldnt be confused with the previous rumors, marketing you know.

AGD

[MarkM]

There was no level 8 or 9. John Sosta in England drilled holes in the regulator and some people called that Level 8 but it never was. We decided on L10 because it wouldnt be confused with the previous rumors, marketing you know.

AGD

That would be John's infamous 8 hole Promag together with lazer etching on the valve.

[Jimbud]

Tom I know we have been over this a few times before but I am a little confused.

What level were the guns that the B's originally got?

I know that they had Knurled Barrels and no slots on the Power tube tips.
I also seem to remember updating to the bronze power tube springs.

Are those guns still in the data base?
the registration dates may shed some light.

Jimbud

[judster]

i still had my bronze spring in when they installed the LX at the 1st shatner...when they pulled it out they gave me a look of shock.....my responce was: 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' never had a need for the spacers...the spring worked fine for me

[Muzikman]

Tom I know we have been over this a few times before but I am a little confused.

What level were the guns that the B's originally got?

I know that they had Knurled Barrels and no slots on the Power tube tips.
I also seem to remember updating to the bronze power tube springs.

Are those guns still in the data base?
the registration dates may shed some light.

Jimbud

If there are guns out there before level 5...I REALLY need to find one:)

[gc82000]

The Mag in the old vid that was a level 5 was it not. And werent the design of the level 1 or 2 sold to ICD to make the old school jackal or desert fox not sure on the name?

[Beemer]

Tom I know we have been over this a few times before but I am a little confused.

What level were the guns that the B's originally got?

I know that they had Knurled Barrels and no slots on the Power tube tips.
I also seem to remember updating to the bronze power tube springs.

Are those guns still in the data base?
the registration dates may shed some light.

Jimbud

Holy shaaaZam BatMan, Captain JB is here. I smell a Rally. Wanna be the Captain? Can JimBud and the Wizard come out to play.

JB, we malfunctioned the P1, and 2s remember, then the P3 was the first we used in a tournament, wasnt it????? Old age and to many of these has lapsed my memory. You still have your P3 dont ya?

What was the year of level 1? Its not there

If there are guns out there before level 5...I REALLY need to find one

I could tell ya who has 1, but then I would have to ya

Oh Ya Welcome to AO you old S.O.B.

[cgrieves]

That would be John's infamous 8 hole Promag together with lazer etching on the valve.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I'm aware it was Marcus Davies of the Predators who championed the Promag. I've got one in a box above my wardrobe.....

Whether it worked or not is perhaps irrelevant, if you had one you were the Elite :) and mine definitely sounds different to my my stock AIR valved mag....