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  • stonersr26
    The RiseoftheUnholy Tinker
    • Jul 2004
    • 814

    #106
    CoolHand you just need to convince someone to either buy my Mustang or my Emag lowers and I will have #4. Someone help me out. Help me get an awesome product and further the legacy of mags ripping away the opposition; Please.

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    • stonersr26
      The RiseoftheUnholy Tinker
      • Jul 2004
      • 814

      #107
      Just had a question that I haven't seen anywhere else on the thread. The air noid that you are using to trip the sear, is it capable of handling more than what the current noid in an Emag will. I have heard from several different techs that the reason they haven't really gone any farther with the programming for the E/X mag boards is because the Solenoid cannot shoot much past 20bps. Just curious because if you were to use the Pred to it's full capacity I think you would very likely be pushing the envelope of the valve's capabilities and thus the Solenoid would need to be fairly fast. Thanks in advance for answering my ramblings.

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      • CoolHand
        Logic Industries LLC
        • Jan 2003
        • 3769

        #108
        Originally posted by stonersr26
        Just had a question that I haven't seen anywhere else on the thread. The air noid that you are using to trip the sear, is it capable of handling more than what the current noid in an Emag will. I have heard from several different techs that the reason they haven't really gone any farther with the programming for the E/X mag boards is because the Solenoid cannot shoot much past 20bps. Just curious because if you were to use the Pred to it's full capacity I think you would very likely be pushing the envelope of the valve's capabilities and thus the Solenoid would need to be fairly fast. Thanks in advance for answering my ramblings.
        [Valley Girl Voice]
        "I am so ahead of you here."
        [/Valley Girl Voice]

        The valve I am using has a factory rated max cyclical rate of >50CPS.

        That's right, fifty (50, five with a zero behind it). You will not out run this valve.

        However, I guess that's kinda misleading, as the "ON" time required for the Mag will limit the the max ROF to ~36-40 BPS (using a 20-25ms "on" time per shot, and a 3-5ms "off" time).

        They are rated for a life of 200 million cycles (that's 200,000,000 shots, or 200,000 cases of paint) at 100% duty (meaning it can run continuously basically forever).

        Plus, they are less than $40 to replace (if for some reason you manage to shoot more than 200 million shots and your Mag is still going), even at retail prices.

        Worry not about the valve my son.
        Ryan Shanks
        Logic Industries LLC

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        • BigEvil
          www.BigEvilOnline.com

          • Feb 2005
          • 9333

          #109
          IMO, if you get a vid of you ripping on the prototype, they will come. :)

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          • Skywalker
            fat chicks need lovin' too
            • Nov 2003
            • 588

            #110
            Originally posted by BigEvil
            IMO, if you get a vid of you ripping on the prototype, they will come. :)

            I second that motion. Let's see it Ry.
            Dust Green X-Mag #315

            ULE body w/ dual Kila V2 detents, X valve w/ LX, Y-grip w/ Dye grips, ULT, Omega rail, Stainless Steel Freak Kit.

            My Feedback- http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=165428

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            • CoolHand
              Logic Industries LLC
              • Jan 2003
              • 3769

              #111
              Originally posted by BigEvil
              IMO, if you get a vid of you ripping on the prototype, they will come. :)
              I will be more than happy to, once I have parts here to assemble.

              The prototype was in a vert frame, and is no longer in working order. To reassemble it and take a vid would only confuse things.

              As soon as I have parts to put together, I will assemble one and take a vid of it screaming.

              On a related note, I found some material that I may be able to easily fashion into an eye cover for the ULE bodies. It will be very simple and aluminum (so you can have it ano matched if you like), likely held on with one screw.

              I am waiting on the material right now, but once it gets here (Wed or Thurs) I will cut one and see what it looks like.

              Also, would any of you happen to have a stock RTP On/Off assembly they would sell or maybe trade for a ULT kit?

              The XValve I bought for the demo doesn't have an On/Off in it, and all I have is a ULT and an EMag On/Off.
              Ryan Shanks
              Logic Industries LLC

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              • WenULiVeUdiE
                Force of Nature Staff
                • Jan 2004
                • 1982

                #112
                I can probably trade with you. As long as you have the extra shims I could probably do it. Only problem is I am in New Orleans until thursday. Let me know.
                Hey, look at that! It's Santa!

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                • CoolHand
                  Logic Industries LLC
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 3769

                  #113
                  Originally posted by WenULiVeUdiE
                  I can probably trade with you. As long as you have the extra shims I could probably do it. Only problem is I am in New Orleans until thursday. Let me know.
                  I don't need it right away anyway.

                  It is the whole kit, ULT On/Off and about 8 or 10 shims.

                  Let me know when you get back so we can hash it out.
                  Ryan Shanks
                  Logic Industries LLC

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                  • Automaggot68

                    #114
                    Originally posted by CoolHand
                    I don't need it right away anyway.

                    It is the whole kit, ULT On/Off and about 8 or 10 shims.

                    Let me know when you get back so we can hash it out.

                    Check you PM's buddy.

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                    • Skywalker
                      fat chicks need lovin' too
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 588

                      #115
                      Any news on a protoype yet?
                      Dust Green X-Mag #315

                      ULE body w/ dual Kila V2 detents, X valve w/ LX, Y-grip w/ Dye grips, ULT, Omega rail, Stainless Steel Freak Kit.

                      My Feedback- http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=165428

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                      • CoolHand
                        Logic Industries LLC
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 3769

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Skywalker
                        Any news on a protoype yet?
                        Nothing new to report.

                        You can be sure that I will have pics and a vid up as soon as parts arrive and I get one put together.

                        Hang in there guys, it could be as much as three or four weeks yet.
                        Ryan Shanks
                        Logic Industries LLC

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                        • MadPSIence
                          Innovation 101
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 969

                          #117
                          3-4 weeks for a prototype or a ship?

                          i'm just thinking now.. is this gonna be out before the pneumatic frame?

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                          • CoolHand
                            Logic Industries LLC
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 3769

                            #118
                            Originally posted by MadPSIence
                            3-4 weeks for a prototype or a ship?

                            i'm just thinking now.. is this gonna be out before the pneumatic frame?
                            2-3 for videos of the production frames.

                            4-8 to ship (best case).

                            It will certainly be out before the PTP frame (since Jay has been talking 3-6 months on them).
                            Ryan Shanks
                            Logic Industries LLC

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                            • MadPSIence
                              Innovation 101
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 969

                              #119
                              k, i'll be pm'ing you. (since you don't use your AIM grrr )

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                              • MadPSIence
                                Innovation 101
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 969

                                #120
                                question.. what kind of trigger will this thing have? hopefully nothing thick and clunky like stock mag frames.

                                will the trigger receive anno as well?

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