Here's a head on of the A5 with JCS stock to show sight picture...
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Here's a head on of the A5 with JCS stock to show sight picture...
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The stock is mounted upside down on that one. You actually clear the tac cap with that lil mounting rail. Thats a cool setup. Sweet. Well, I am pretty convinced that the stock gonna stay nice and low for a good tight shooting stance.
Where did you get that mask/helmet Homeland? Looks pretty lightweight and paintbal friendly.Comment
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I like what I've seen of your designs, they're all pretty sweet and I bet I'd be happy using any of them, but for what it's worth I'll offer my two cents.
First, why not a "dogleg" style stock of the sort they sell at Spec Ops Paintball? Do something that curves around the mask and it'd work a lot better, I think. The marker would have better lines, shorter profile, and still have room for a mask. Maybe do an L-shaped stock, attached to the bottom of the gripframe with the end protruding upwards? I'll Photoshop something if you don't understand, but right now I'm lazy.
In terms of the Qloader vs Warp thing, I'd say go Qloader. Since it's milsim, the "clip" thing seems to fit with it better. Keep in mind if you're doing a custom marker, you can easily mount it somewhere other than slung under the barrel so it won't be in your way. On the other hand, if you're still looking for a Warp to test out, drop me a PM.
My advice, though, would be to stick to bent aluminum and keep it simple, yet effective. If you really want to beat the Q-Bow, make something more effective that costs less. And try to stay away from using their parts, nothing says "rip off" like parts from the marker that inspired it. Oh, to answer your question about overly long barrels, keep in mind that it's designed for paintball "snipers" who like to stay hidden. The longer the barrel, the further back in cover the sniper can be.
Keep up the good work!Comment
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Your designs look good, I saw where you were looking for a qloader mounted on a Mag so although the picture quality is poor here you are.
That's my son holding it. right now I'm just using the air tank as a stock, and I have added a red dot scope.
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How custom are you wanting to get? Are you willing to make an intigrated rail, frame, and stock design? check out the berreta cx4, just cut the stock low. Have you seen that thing it is awsome http://www.cx4storm.com/
Give me a day or two, I might make a concept drawing of what I have in mind.Comment
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Thanks everyone for the continued support.
Thanks Guru for the comments. I actually never thought about having a long barrel to peek from cover with. Not a bad idea actually. For me personally, and like most of us, I end up abusing a barrel that is too long, and you end up getting that much more energy used up by that extra length which worries me.
A dogleg stock would be cool. They are indeed my fave out there for paintball. I will also try to design somehting in of this variety.
Jet, am I safe to assume that your rig is: A powerfeed left frame with the powerfeed turned downwards pointing to the right and a lapco warp feed adapter (or a qloader adapter) going into the Qloader? Sorry, but I am kinda new to the automag setup. That is one short length of Qloader tubing! Excellent and very tight setup. Thanks for the pic. It looks like, with the sight riser, that you could get a very unobstructed field of view over the marker.
This is interesting, because if it is a powerfeed just turned the one could just turn it back up and play with a hooper if they wanted, or if anything went wrong with the Qloader. Could be handy perhaps?
Also, that is a good question MoeMag. I am not sure if a machinist can do a three dimentional rendering based on a cad file, or do a two dimentional cutting from a flat solid peice of aluminium, or if he will want to simply bend metal and grind peices, and assemble them liek that? Machining is REALLY new to me, but designing isnt. Ugh. Help DSR75. What kinda stuff does your dad do?Comment
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I put up a post on the specops forum about putting up a pic with themselves holding the longbow hopefully it would get answered.BACK IN THE GAME.
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This is kinda the lynchpin of the design. Does the stock look good and go high (like the longbow, black cell), or become practical and go low (like the t-stock and JCS folding stock).
At least one picture of someone sighting up with a Longbow would help indeed. Thanks for posting on the Spec Ops and getting that going.Comment
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You could mount the Qloader over the stock too that would put the weight on the back near the shoulder which is similar to what you would have now with a tank there ... also i was going to suggest mounting off the bottom of the grip frame but it looks like you've considered that in one of the other pics. On the issue of a long barrel most barrels are step hone or two piece barrels that have the second half of the barrel a larger bore than the back half so I dont think that they effect efficiency that drastically but the do silence the retort of the gun alot if they are ported, and it does help you to shoot through bushes etc while remaining hidden.Comment
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Hmmm. That makes me think...
There are only really four things we need to figure out, three of which are paramount...
1- the loading/feeding system. This involves a loader and a mouth position.
2- the stock. This is important as this is shaping up to be a woodsy stalker type marker that will probably have to be sighted up for long periods.
3- the barrel choice. Long or short. Carbon or aluminium. On and on.
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4- looks. This is important to me, because I like everything clean and tight. I think everyone does.
Since we know the marker base is the AGD automag, that settles that. Also, which variety of mag to use is also important (classic, ULE custom, etc.) and what body type.
So, knowing this it makes it kinda fun to debate and settle sections of the marker creation. Fun!Comment
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and I think this should be the markers logo:
A slightly larger stylized version of that would be fun, because it would remind us of the forum that helped us develop the marker in the first place.Comment
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Ok guys since their was no picture posted i just ordered the whole kit for myself. yes i know it is expensive but if it will help to develop a better automag then i am in. i just hope what is decided here I will get a nice discount on what ever is made from this post. now that i just kicked out 300 bucks you guys better come up with something. i think we all agreed that most of us will use the air thru stock that spec ops use.
one thing i like about the spec ops shroud that it go well with the qloader since i don't own a warp frame.
i am going for the qloader so i needed to buy the mag kit. i know i am getting raped but if we can machine something from it then i am down. just follow thru on what you say guys i just spent my turbo money. i was hoping by now that agd would have made a warp feed tac one body but, hopefully with this post they would make one. i hate the idea of takeing off my tac body i should have bought a rt ule custom. to begin with but the tac one look so coolBACK IN THE GAME.
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Well Lonewolf, in regards to the Tac One issue, it is good we can all learn from that.
In regards to investing in this design, I am all in. Based on the research you can do with the Spec Ops parts, I will gladly personally sculpt or pay for machining for prototypes, etc. I do not mind kicking in. I, by all means, want to see this woodsball carbine become a success.
It would also be nice for AGD, as it would be another avenue for them to have a precense in woodsball.Comment
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i was on ops gear.com and i found some animations and stuff of guys holding stock guns.
it looks like with some of the stocks you need to tilt your head in to get line of the sight.BACK IN THE GAME.
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Hey good find. I like that Opsgear stuff, but man do they gouge you. If it were for airsoft, and not paintball, their prices would be more than cut in half. All in a name. Ugh.
Excellent examples tho. There is a sight riser block, and they are using a tac cap, but it does look pretty comfy and well sighted. That is also an excellent stock shape. I am going to take a closer look in photoshop and gather where those eyelines are headed down the markers.
Oh yeah, a potential logo?
Kinda goofy, but very rootsy.Comment
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