Tactical Automag prototype thread. Please help.

[famousgamer]

Well, I guess we have to decide which stance we enjoy most...



I personally like the tightness of the lower one. Smaller profile. Looks comfy. Head can see either way and look either way with impedence. Top one looks cool tho.

If we were to combine what we like about each, we would have a good stance to start designing a stock around.

[DSR75]

I like the one from post #44. The stocks that I use are all dogleg stocks. They aren't the best cosmetically but they perform the best. They allow quick target acquisition as well as giving head clearance. The stock in #44 appears to give relatively the same amount of clearance or atleast enough for my big noggin to get in there. I like the idea of mounting the Q-loader there. One it frees up your barrel, two it appears it would be easier to change clips, three it keeps everything in tight.

[famousgamer]

This neither looks comfy, or useful.



His eyes obviously can not reach the sight without moving the butt of the stock too high on his shoulder. This shape of stock should be ruled out.

By the time he got his risers or offset mount in place, he may as well had just got a little more clearance in his stock and saved some time and money.

[famousgamer]

You know, those doglegs kinda make the best of both worlds. They keep the stock high, and still give enough room. The are also pretty easy to manufacture, as they are just bent metal. I am leaning a little more towards that way now. I have never used one, but on paper they seem the best.

[famousgamer]

Here is a good picture to post in the Spec Ops forum page on the Longbow sight clearance.


This illustrates how much of the noggin you wanna get behind the marker, and how much you can't get behind it if there is a high stock in the way.

[famousgamer]

This makes me want to go warp again. SUCH low profile. SO tight. Ugh. This hopper does not use up any room, as it is the space between the body and the front arm holding the hopper. No Qloader placement issues at all. Hmm. But the noise and batteries? Ugh. Just look at that feild of view tho! SO nice.

And I kinda like this grip. Its a little gawdy here, but the placement is interesting to me.



In the bottom mounted Qloader design (post #44 i think?) This could also hold a warp if the owner wanted. That means we could kill two birds with one stone! Either mount the warp there, or the Qloader under, depending on preference. Hmmm, I am going to design a drawing for this. This could be good.

[MoeMag]

Hey there,
Here is a really simple but clean and close idea I had.
sorry its so big.



HA HA! I resized it. (never done that)

[DSR75]

I only forsee one problem with placing the q-loader there. The q is approx 12in long (I could be wrong but that's a number i somehow remember associated with the q). That would really prohibit laying down. That's my only concern.

[MoeMag]

I honestly have no idea how the q-loader mounts, but my intention was for it to run foward and parallel below the barrel. Also another option would to be run it on the side and back along the frame.

I want to know... could a regular clamping feedneck be put on a warp body and then mount the q-loader directly to it, so that it is real close to the side of the gun. That would be SWEET!

[famousgamer]

Nice drawing, and good idea. That would indeed be optimal stock placement I think.

The Q seems to be popular. No batteries, no noise, etc. It does seem like a great choice.

Here are some more doodles... I should have numbered them. Oops.



kinda just playing around with Qloader placements. Alot of these frame would work with warp feeds as well, if the Q wasnt used.

I hope you dont mind if I photoshop one of your designs onto a mag MoeMag?

[MoeMag]

No, I don't mind, go for it. I posted it for you to playwith.

However, if you make some money with it remember me

[famousgamer]

No, I don't mind, go for it. I posted it for you to playwith.

However, if you make some money with it remember me

Kay. I think this is gonna end up being a non profit sorta thing anyhow... unless AGD makes some... then we should expect some for free, or playtesting! :)

Here are some more doodles, experimenting with clip-type qloaded mags, and a bullpup design. Not sure which is good for what, but worth the doodle I figure.

[famousgamer]

Prolly not the best idea, as the grip is tilted a little too far back, and may be uncomfortable to hold. This marker would also suck in closer quarters. That is not even counting the fact that the carbon fiber grip has to be cut and replaces with that huge shroud.

Kinda fun still.

[famousgamer]

Dang. I am starting to like it.

The bipod would only really be used for zeroing in red dots and the such. Kinda fun to goof around with tho.

Actually, that handle aint all that bad, as far as position. Hmm. Ill do an overlay with a regular automag tommorow to see how far it is off. I gotta sleep.

[famousgamer]

Still cant sleep. Gonna try again. Im like the Tyler Durden of paintball.