Tactical Automag prototype thread. Please help.

[famousgamer]

of course,for the top two pictures we would have to use a ule body on the classic rail, to make use of the cocker threads. This is, I guess, the only way to get the APEX on the marker, and still get to drill into the rear of the rail for the stock.

[Troen]

best so far, i think...well without the bipod.

[HOMELANDEFENDER]

The PVC shroud as pictured my not work well with the Apex. It may cause the paint to come in contact with the inner portion of the shroud and due the backspin -- make the balls "wing" out of control.

Just an observation.


You'd be better off getting this for a 14" barrel: http://www.hotshotpaintball.com/merc...oduct_Count=17


HLD...

[famousgamer]

Yes. Yes that is true. That adapter would rock worlds. I guess if you out that at the end of a quiet barrel the noise will be lessened? It aint the APEX making the 'crack' noise I dont think. Quiet, far, and kinda accurate. Best of most worlds. Thanks for the find.

I liek that one too Troen, and it is one of the more expotic so far. I also think it would be the most easy and fun to reload. The Qloader is in a spot where most of the weight is balanced (while remote) and the grip on the Qloader cover is in a nice spot, and should feel natural.

Personally, if the tank were still on the marker I might lean towards...



Thats just a fancy shroud wrapping the Q housing and a stock. This is actually my personal fave at the moment, if I leave the tank on the marker. The tank should balance out the hopper on the front of the marker, and it might feel quite light in the hands.

EDIT: oh yeah, forgot to mention, in that shroud it leaves room for the foregrip, if one wanted ot still use it to life the Qloader heavy front.

[dIVEANX]

I see all the pics of the Qbow ION but what about the orginal

[famousgamer]

Ugh. Putting the barrel UNDER the stock which travels through the users head and mask still seems kinda strange to me. Longbow... you puzzle me.

[DSR75]

There is no way you have enough mask clearance on that thing. I still think using a dogleg stock or the tank itself is the best option. Famous, me and you agree. Your favorite is mine as well.

[famousgamer]

well, with us getting a little closer, we can open a voting thread soon, and poll to see what is whos favorite.

edit: and yes, those doglegs seem great to me, air thru or not.

[MoeMag]

[famousgamer]

Well, in that case... allow me to reintroduce... the Moe...mag... automag.

[MoeMag]

That is sweet! You moved the ASA right up to the bend so it would allow for tank clearance. I just might have to make one of my own like that. Thx.

[FinchMan]

Well, in that case... allow me to reintroduce... the Moe...mag... automag.

that looks pretty sweet. Especially if you replaced the custom 1piece forgrip/stock with a palmers stabilizer to keep liquid co2 out in the cold, and a lapco drop w/ stock: http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/2087/

with that setup, its 80$ for the Qloader, 90$ for the stabilizer, 240$ for the warp right mag, 10$ for the sight rail, 50$ for the drop/stock, say 20$ for the tank, around 50$ for the sight.

so far thats $540
370$ cheaper

and if you wanted the apex tip on a good barrel: Barrel of choice *average* 60$, apex barrel for the tip 120$, apex barrel adapter: 25$

thats $205 more, because apex doesnt sell their tip seperate.

grand total: $745

still 165$ cheaper than longbow.


and as a bonus, these are all off-the-shelf parts.

[famousgamer]

Could someone please thank that person for leaving these next pictures on the Special Ops site. Thanks so much. Now, lets get to work...


I have shown the eye line, and the line where your eye wants to be. Even with the tightest fitting paintball mask on the market: the Vforce Profiler (correct me if Im wrong) the mask STILL bumps up against the mask, not allowing the face to reach the sight line.

Seriously, if one were able to cram their head down far enough to actually see down a red dot mounted on the top rail Id be impressed. They would be a grand yoga master, and worthy of respect. Unfortunately, at this point the marker would be so high the stock would come off the top of the shoulder, becoming more of a tail ormiment rather than an aiming aid.



This is better. Ahhhh. No more cramathon to make use of all that space above your Longbow. Sorry bout the choppy photoshoppin. It does illustrate the point tho. As an added bonus to not having your head at a 45 degree angle all day just to aim, you also get to look left AND right while still shouldering your marker. Personally, I would place the stock even lower, towards bottle height.


Ummm, can you say "ouch". How about...
"Cant come into work dude. Got the WORST neck pains from playing paintball"
" Did you get shot in the neck?" asks the co worker.
"No man. Aiming. AIMING!"


Ahhh. I almost FEEL more comfortable looking at that picture.

I would like to plainly state that the person holding this marker for the pictures is doing the best he can. You simply can not fit behind that thing and hold it properly with a mask on, and this is no fault of his own that he can not look down the sight rail. Him and his dad have been a huge help tho, so thanks alot for helping with our new design guys.

This is important because I am not slamming this guy. I am very grateful. I am slamming the Longbow stock placement, and I want AGD to ramp up their woodsball platform and bulldoze this error and create a new woodslayer!

[siloseven]

ok, I have not read any thing on this thred, but I did look at all the pictures. and I was thinking I have not seen any bull-pup design.

like making the kit put the trigger on the fore grip connected to the sear by cables or whatever, and having a kit house the air tank, and sholder prop and have the Q-loader or Warp feed on one side. and have a barrel shoud or something that the player can hold for stabization and grip.

like a Styer AUG or a Einfield L85

Or another thing I just thought of, mounting the Q-loader on some of your posted disigns in place of the foregrip. like a true clip reloading feel?

[famousgamer]

Just some more concept doodles. Ill try some more with the Q as a grip.