Tactical Automag prototype thread. Please help.

[famousgamer]

just wanted to fix the top one from the other post. Hmmm, kinda weird huh?

Is this the most compact paintball gun to ever have a 12 oz co2 and 100 round capacity? I might venture to say... perhaps.

[siloseven]

how do I post pics on here?

go something i did on MS paint from one of you pics, but I can't post it or PM it. do you have an email by chance I can send it?

Not the best looking, but it is somehting I havn't seen.

[famousgamer]

All art is welcome, and we are quite forgiving. Its the concept and idea thats important after all.

Go ahead an get a photobucket.com account. Its as easy as signing up for a forum. Then upload your pics onto your photobucket, and then copy/paste the pictures IMG code.

You will notice three bars beneath each pic on your photobucket pics. If you paste the IMG one it will appear as that same pic on these forums.

Ask any questions if you hit a snag.

[siloseven]

for some reason, it is small. the grey thing in the middle is the Q-loader. the blue thing is the air supply. the little grey thing is an optional foregrip.

[famousgamer]

That pic is actually quite clear, buit yes a little small. Photobucket holds memory, not picture dimentions. That means you should save yer pics at a lower quality, and they will show up as their size on yer computer if everything goes okay.

I will experiment with that q setup. People worry about the ground clearance, and wear and tear when it faces downwards, but I have seen it done on the q site, and it looks cool.

[dIVEANX]

I was rather uphappy with the fact of having to buy both the Longbow kit and the Qbow kit to make my Qbow that I have contacted Britt from UMS and he is doing a custom Qbow kit for me.

Once he is done Il will post pics but I do agree with the sightline idea.

Fast target aquiring is the name of the game. the faster you aquire your target the the faster the elimination will come and hence less paint used.

I have shot Rorys (for SpecOps actually the one in the picture I post earlier) marker and it felt good but as you pointed out you still have to try and tuck your head lower then it can go.

I have a scenario this weekend but the marker is getting sent off next week so as soon as he is done, Ill post pictures.

Our only concern is how to make the magwell for the qloader to fit to the body. The rest is relatively easy

[FinchMan]

That pic is actually quite clear, buit yes a little small. Photobucket holds memory, not picture dimentions. That means you should save yer pics at a lower quality, and they will show up as their size on yer computer if everything goes okay.

I will experiment with that q setup. People worry about the ground clearance, and wear and tear when it faces downwards, but I have seen it done on the q site, and it looks cool.

also, with that qsetup, the marker may have some ballance issues unless we had a drop forward or ran remote.

[LONEWOLFOO1]

This is excatly what i want i already own a tac one and since agd don't make warp tac one frames. this is a great alternative to q/long bow owners this is what i had in mind to do when my longbow comes in. it would be cool if you can fold it right up when you are not playing. the cool thing about the bracket is that you can get them larger and longer for the bigger players.

[famousgamer]

Divanx, I hope that your custom milling exceeds your expectaions, as you deserve to have a killer marker setup after buying 2 longbows! The information that you pass along to us here has helped, and will help even more when you get that marker back.

I agree with LONEWOLF, and no TAC ONE frame users should be left behind. To really get that TAC ONE working all one would have to do is get that stock lower down. Spec Ops custom hand mills all those shrouds by milling sheet metal (with the holes, logos, etc.) cutting and then bending the metal. A mill shop should be able to cakewalk through this, tho I am not sure. If the rear shroud is all you gotta make, and if you got the other longbow parts to use, this would work out nice for vert feed users. If a millshop can do it with no problems, and relativley low funds, then I might consider going vert frame as well.

On top of this, a folding stock would realy be tops. In this case we could just make some type of interface that allows all tippy a-5 stocks. That would provide some huge variety.

[famousgamer]

Ninja said that the Longbow has "plenty of sight clearance" on the Spec Ops forums. Maybe you just didnt see all the pics here, where I raised the contrast up. You can plainly see the eye aint gonna reach a sight without pullling some serious yoga all day, and that 'clank' of your mask making contact whenever you wanna target someone. Neither is fun, or effective, or worth the 900 dollar price tag.

One could use risers tho, yes. Or a two inch tall red dot. One could build a stack of risers on any marker for that matter, but why not just fix the problem: the stock placement.

EDIT: or maybe you just thought the photoshopped version with the lower stock and raised hands was the picture originally sent in. Check it out...

The original is this...


and in the photoshopped version I made these following changes:
- raised up both hands and the marker to meet the eye line
- lowered the stock to make room for the mask/head

You will see that the eye line has become the sight/red-dot line


Really what I wanted to do is straighten the head so it isnt on an angle. No one should spend all day playing paintball like that.

Wth the head straight, aiming is easy, aim with either eye, snap shooting becomes a reality, you can look left AND right without un-shouldering your marker, etc. We could give plenty of reasons why a gazzilion paintball players shoot ONE way, and not the Longbow way. There is no reason to have your head clunked against a stock post all day, as it only will effect your paintball in a negative way.

[Trippzilla06]

I noticed this thread, and it peaked my interest, I'm new but I do have some input. It seems that your going with, or leaning to a Warp feed, and some kind of Railing for a Reflexive Scope. But this clearance thing is raining on your parade, for some ideas, I'm into airsoft and paintball, but they have elevated Scope Rails maybe you could use.

For Copy Right purposes they won't allow me to provide a direct link but.
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Category go under where it has listed AEG/AEP, scroll down to "Accessories", and then on the other browser to the immediate right , go to "Scope Rail & Mounts" I have an G&G GR16, possibly a CA M15A4 soon, I was thinking about attaching a ACOG to the top of my S.I.R. and I realized I still want to use my Iron sight, so I'd have to get an elevated Scope Rail, to still be able to use my Iron sights, and use the Scope, because I took off the Carrying Handle.

P.S. I'm probably going to get a TAC-ONE Soon, it's a great weapon, and similar to my M4 in specs, the Selective Interface RAIL system I have on the foregrip, etc.

EDIT: If this does help you, I have hundres (literally) links to para-military and military sites, I can help you track down something to mount on the common 20mm accessory rail which appears to be the dimension you'll be using.

[borph]

here's my old school solution

<img src="http://borph.home.mindspring.com/one.jpg"><br>
<img src="http://borph.home.mindspring.com/two.jpg"><br>
<img src="http://borph.home.mindspring.com/three.jpg">

here's a good thread:

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=29897

Excellent designs man, keep em coming!

[FinchMan]

Very nice setup, it looks awsome. I like the idea of mounting the qloader there when running remote.

How do you like the zmag?


One nice thing i see on the qbow, and a few of the concept drawings, is the long picante (sp) rail. It would be cool to get a semi-custom sight rail that mounts like a normal one, but has a long picante rail that runs the length of the body. It would only work on warp bodies, but I think it would be pretty cool...

[borph]

Thanks very much! It's taken me years to assemble coz so many of the parts hadn't been made in such a long time. Thank goodness for eBay and AO Classifieds!

I've been pleased with the Zbody in spite of it's gimmicky backspin control. It's fun to mess around with off the field, but not something I pay much attention to during a game.

Galactic Systemz went outta biz and now there's nowhere to find parts if something breaks. Wonder why AGD doesn't acquire rights to manufacture defunct aftermarket parts.

anyway, check this design:

http://www.gunfx.com/pages/projects.html

Very nice setup, it looks awsome. I like the idea of mounting the qloader there when running remote.

How do you like the zmag?

[famousgamer]

What a great setup Borph. Wow. I never figured you could get so much clearance by mounting the asa at the rear like that and use an air thru. That z frame is nice too. The sight rail is the perfect height, and I bet you cant even feel the Q loader weight with it so central like that. I even like the extended foregrip. Well done.

I am personally going to be picking up my own marker to start modding soon. I am very close to deciding the initial setup, and wanted to clear everything with you guys first. Ill post later tonight with my wish list.

Also, if anyone is interested, last time I looked there was a Z body on Ebay for fairly cheap. If you are interested, do an ebay search right away and hopefully it is still there.