G-Force to release pneumatic frames for the Mags

[Chronobreak]

i think most of what can be said has been done so.

if your still looking for feedback theres plenty of pics,specs of proposed pneuframes , etc, etc as well as a good 50+ pages of pneu related info,patent issues, frame desighns etc etc

which you seem to be aware of.

i would think that the deadlwing hair vid being one fot he most popular videos on AO by far is incentive enough that there is demand, if that is what concenrs you.

im happy to supply dozens and dozens of links if you are unware of these threads im refering to

and geforece(garth) you may be confusing AGD triggerframe desighns with agd trigger specs.
basicly we want to use aftermarket triggers liek those offered by Rogue, and TMS among others. we dont care if its an inteliframe or y-frame, though a y-frame would be sweet...

[dstud2000]

If you produce one, I would seriously buy one if it is an easy bolt on item. I do not like making things more complex than they need be. Also ease of maintenance would be a must. What I found so far from owning a mag compared to my other guns is I can just pick i up out my bag and use it right away, no worries during game time, and I can do it repeatedely whenever I want. so this is what I would like to see:

Simple installation

Easy maitenance

Reliability

Those are what are important to me. As far as ergronomics, 45 frame with a classic 2 finger trigger. I have never realy been able to feel comfortable with a blade trigger. A hybrid style frame would work too, but I just like 45 frames better

[dstud2000]

2 last things

1. Working safety is a must for me.

2. Does it come in black?

[bambulance man]

My .02

1) 45 style
2) normal trigger guard
3) safety

Good luck with this, I will be checking in for updates.
bman

[Don Carnage]

THANK GOD!!!!!!

[PanzerGen]

Well, if it makes anyone happy. Their website now includes automags in the list for Pneumatic Frames.

[cyrus-the-virus]

I'll buy it if it is released and doesn't cost $400+

But right now my BS-o-meter is off the charts. Considering your a company that has released nothing that they "said they were going to produce"

Esspecily considering that mags are nich markers.

[warbeak2099]

I'll buy it if it is released and doesn't cost $400+

But right now my BS-o-meter is off the charts. Considering your a company that has released nothing that they "said they were going to produce"

Esspecily considering that mags are nich markers.

This is true. The all pneumatic marker had one problem that they admitted to and after that it all of a sudden disappeared. They didn't fix the problem and try it again, they just threw the whole project out. It's been at least two years if not more since then. So given that track record, how are we to believe that this same company is going to pull through on this product? I'm sorry but it just pisses me off when someone has the gaul to be that big of a jerk. You come on here and make claims that you probably will never follow through on. Don't make the claim at all unless you have your ducks in a row already.

[mostpeople]

Airwalk + pneumatics ftw

[Rudz]

Airwalk + pneumatics ftw

sounds good to me

[RvB Caboose]

I think this sounds like a great idea coming from G-Force. If they successfully manufacture a working pneumatics I'd definitely buy one for my mag. The only thing is that I have an Airwalk frame lying around. I'd like to be able to send that in to have the pneumatics installed. I'd agree with all of Rawbutter's points- less so with 5, but I also want to see some kind of warranty.

[G-Force Tech]

Rudz,

We will produce 45 since majority prefers that style. Others can be offer in limited quantities later.

We have used different valves in our prototype 68Super and S1 markers including the MSV-1 and MSV-2 valves that we see being used for the Pneu Mag conversions on AO. The pneumatic actuator cylinder and LPR are custom made.

Once the frame get machined, we'll post it.

Garf

Give the guy a break, seriously, you guys don't jump all over colin and dw like this, so give him a break.



First of all, garf, do you have a frame design in mind? Hybrid, 45, vert? Also a larger trigger gaurd seems popular around here, I suspect we won't be able to use our agd triggers, so what trigger styles do you have in mind? Can we get a picture of your pnuematics in one of your other frames? A video?

And I apologoze for the negativity and sometimes downright disrespect, but this community has had more than its share of false promises and extended pre orders.

[Dirge]

Have at!!!

[Toll]

AO et all :

You all have rights to be skeptical, but they don't owe you anything. Gear down guys.


GForce

- While the community at large loves pnuemags it may be hard to find enough business to really keep it rolling. Mags, for the most part, are no longer in the lime light and the price of an autococker is in the toilet. Spyders and other mechanical frames have been replaced by Ions.

In this community most of us who want a pneumag have the ability to make it ourselves and those who don't have the skills/tools can get it done by various folks kicking around the boards. In that respect you're going to have to beat them, so focusing on that area :

Frame
-A larger trigger guard is almost universally welcomed for the mags, as they were never intended to be walked like they currently have the ability to.
-Light weight. Normally goes with out saying but the calling card of a mag is that it happens to be light as a feather most days
-Mags have a plethora of mechanical frames but very few electo frames that can be easily had. If/when you get your system down going Electro pneumatic might be a solid choice. Most of us would simply use an ego frame but that involves a solenoid and yet more stuff to play with. Theoretically you'd be the only one making new electronic mag frames.

Pnuematics
-Ram as a drop in insert. Flat out most people would not like to have the ability to reposition anything by accident when cleaning or tinkering....Mag people love to tinker. same goes for the valve/lpr.
- They MUST be clean looking. The first pnues looked like a jumble but worked and have progressively been refined.

[G-Force Tech]

Toll,

When the frames goes to production, the frame guards will be large enough for gloves and walking. We want this frame to enable any Mag to shoot as fast as any semi auto electro with ease.

The frames will be "Install and Fire" when they are shipped. The only thing you would need to do is either run the low pressure hose from a vertical LPR to the frame or go with the optional frame with an internal LPR.

We will try our best to use the existing AGD spec triggers, but are experimenting with an improved geometry for better performance.

A safety will be utilized in the frame.

We can mill the heck out of the frames to keep the weight very low.

Garf

AO et all :

You all have rights to be skeptical, but they don't owe you anything. Gear down guys.


GForce

- While the community at large loves pnuemags it may be hard to find enough business to really keep it rolling. Mags, for the most part, are no longer in the lime light and the price of an autococker is in the toilet. Spyders and other mechanical frames have been replaced by Ions.

In this community most of us who want a pneumag have the ability to make it ourselves and those who don't have the skills/tools can get it done by various folks kicking around the boards. In that respect you're going to have to beat them, so focusing on that area :

Frame
-A larger trigger guard is almost universally welcomed for the mags, as they were never intended to be walked like they currently have the ability to.
-Light weight. Normally goes with out saying but the calling card of a mag is that it happens to be light as a feather most days
-Mags have a plethora of mechanical frames but very few electo frames that can be easily had. If/when you get your system down going Electro pneumatic might be a solid choice. Most of us would simply use an ego frame but that involves a solenoid and yet more stuff to play with. Theoretically you'd be the only one making new electronic mag frames.

Pnuematics
-Ram as a drop in insert. Flat out most people would not like to have the ability to reposition anything by accident when cleaning or tinkering....Mag people love to tinker. same goes for the valve/lpr.
- They MUST be clean looking. The first pnues looked like a jumble but worked and have progressively been refined.