G-Force to release pneumatic frames for the Mags

[G-Force Tech]

i think people would buy a ep frame if it were lighter, took regular batteries, werent so bulky and were cheaper.

I don't think the marker will be lighter now. If anything, it would be heavier. You are now adding pneumatics and LPR to the weight. The Li-on or NiMH battery is required for the electronics and energize the solenoid plunger. People have suggested a 9V, that is not possible because of the amperage requirement. A 9V is good for a solenoid valve which the patent belongs to SP/DYE/WDP.

Besides, where are you going to stuff all this hardware.

Garf

[G-Force Tech]

I know I would

Do you have a E-Mag?

Garf

[sneakyrob828]

i'd buy an ep-frame if it wasn't overly bulky, reasonably priced and is just a bolt on upgrade.

[G-Force Tech]

i'd buy an ep-frame if it wasn't overly bulky, reasonably priced and is just a bolt on upgrade.

As I said earlier, it will be heavier and definitely bulkier. You need to pick one of the two. If ROF is priority, then the E-Mag.

Garf

[sneakyrob828]

fine ill take ROF, just I don't want an 1.5" thick frame that weighs a pound.

[G-Force Tech]

fine ill take ROF, just I don't want an 1.5" thick frame that weighs a pound.

I suggest getting the E-Mag frame and have it milled to reduce the weight further.

Garf

[cyrus-the-virus]

http://automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179550

That is basicly what everyone wants. Making a light and compact frame is not impossable.It's actually quite fecable. Also I don't think there are any patents reguarding 9volt powered solinoids.

Bas speeling sorry

EDIT: Also a .45 frame would be nice =D

[G-Force Tech]

http://automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179550

That is basicly what everyone wants. Making a light and compact frame is not impossable.It's actually quite fecable. Also I don't think there are any patents reguarding 9volt powered solinoids.

Bas speeling sorry

EDIT: Also a .45 frame would be nice =D

Looks like you found your E frame.

Garf

[warbeak2099]

Looks like you found your E frame.

Garf

Um no since it's a small, custom run. And it also proves that 9vs are able to power an e-pneu frame.

[robnix]

Do you have a E-Mag?

Garf

I have one that I love AND I'm in the process of converting an ego frame into an EP mag frame. I'm doing it for the fun of the project more than as an emag replacement though. It'd be a lot easier if there was a ready made frame with room for a battery and maybe one of those upcoming Universal T-Boards though.

[G-Force Tech]

I have one that I love AND I'm in the process of converting an ego frame into an EP mag frame. I'm doing it for the fun of the project more than as an emag replacement though. It'd be a lot easier if there was a ready made frame with room for a battery and maybe one of those upcoming Universal T-Boards though.

If an EP frame is available to address the ROF requirement, then why do you need a pnuematic frame?

Garf

[jaywmustang]

i would be happy with either (ep frame or p frame).

[warbeak2099]

If an EP frame is available to address the ROF requirement, then way do you need a pnuematic frame?

Garf

I think a lot of people would rather have an EP frame. It would be more able to compete with other tourny guns on the market and would appeal to more people than a full mech. A mech pneumag is a niche product. Marketing a ULE EP Mag in such a way that non-maggers might be drawn to it might be successful.

[cyrus-the-virus]

Looks like you found your E frame.

Garf

No, because it is a small run of only 25(or so) and has been in the process for 2 years now. Deffinetly NOT a practical e-mag replacement.

solenoids that will run on a 9-volt battery are easy to find and some are relativly inexpensive.

The amount of shot's you can get per battery depends largly on the solenoid you use. But shoulden't be much worse than your avrage electropneumatic marker.

Actually I only forsee 2 things being a major issue. #1, finding a board and #2 finding room for an internal LPR(if you decide to go that route).

[robnix]

If an EP frame is available to address the ROF requirement, then why do you need a pnuematic frame?

Garf

That's like asking me why I got the Xmod software for my Emag when the stock software was perfectly acceptable. But anyway, three reasons off the top of my head.

1) There's Ramping night on Thursday Nights at one field, Fridays at another.
2) More granular control over the firing operation than a solely pneumatic frame can provide.
3) If I can I want to.

Why not leave enough room in the frame for people that want to do these mods? You'll get a few more sales that way, and a small cottage industry may even spring up that could benefit you, unless of course your internals take up so much rrom that there's no room for a battery and board.