G-Force to release pneumatic frames for the Mags

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  • RobAGD
    Cantankerous Administrator

    • Oct 2000
    • 2030

    #286
    Chrono - no parts replaced in the gun to date, 2 level 10 tweaks and that it.

    I would say 1/2 million cycles if not more on the gun.

    Gunga posted some vid of me playing with it in Chicago on 04 as i rceall.

    -R
    Serving AGD customers since 93, wishing I could beat some common since into some of them about 5 hrs later.

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    • G-Force Tech
      Registered User
      • Aug 2007
      • 182

      #287
      1.A. The internal LPR need further testing and the ASA adapter allows the use of the popular on/off ASA to be used ie. Newdesignz, CP, etc.

      1.B The LPR can not be preorder at this time until it is ready for production.

      1.C CO2 is not recommended at all when you use these frames. Compressed air will allow the LPRs to perform more consistently at high rates of fire, whereas CO2 will start freezing everything it flows through.

      2. The only choice now is semi gloss black or clear ano

      3. The grip panels are included at no additional charge.

      4. There is no safety on the frame. The trigger can be adjusted down to 0.5mm making the safety useless. When off the field and not being used, just degass the setup.

      The rule of safety always when the marker is gassed up....
      1. finger off the trigger
      2. marker pointed in a safe direction
      3. barrel sock



      Originally posted by ThePixelGuru
      1A. How much for a bolt-on "sleeper" frame? Internal LPR, ASA, the works.
      1B. Will that configuration be available for preorder?
      1C. That'll all work on CO2, right?

      2. Any chance of a matte black ano?

      3. Will there be an option to purchase the frame with wraparound or no grips for those of us anti-panel folks?

      4. Is there a safety on that frame? I can't see one, looks like just a trigger pin.

      Thanks for your time! Frame looks good, by the way.

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      • txaggie08
        Big mouth
        • Jan 2005
        • 1213

        #288
        1.A. The internal LPR need further testing and the ASA adapter allows the use of the popular on/off ASA to be used ie. Newdesignz, CP, etc.

        You might have just sold one right there. Are you saying we may be able to use and driect mount ASA on this with minimal modification? are we talking about drilling a hole to get it on there or bolt on somehow?

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        • G-Force Tech
          Registered User
          • Aug 2007
          • 182

          #289
          The G-Force Micro-LPR when it goes to production can be purchased separately.



          The LPR has two threaded holes for the mounting screws and a center hole air in from the ASA thru the bottom of the grip frame. The threads are 4-40. The LPR drops into grip frame and the 4-40 bolts it into place from the bottom. See the pic. The center recess hole is for the o-ring seal to the on/off ASA.

          Garf

          Grips off pic will be posted later....


          Originally posted by Ruler_Mark
          Oh also in addtion to my other Q(grips off pic), Can we buy the mini lpr separate? if so what threading will it have?
          Last edited by G-Force Tech; 10-10-2007, 06:42 PM.

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          • warbeak2099
            That is my foot!
            • Jan 2004
            • 4447

            #290
            Does the adapter for a standard on/off ASA have to be offset? Will you be making an adapter that is not offset? Also, will you be selling modded ASA's?
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            • G-Force Tech
              Registered User
              • Aug 2007
              • 182

              #291




              Only direct mount on/off ASA can be used in this setup. An ASA that uses a rail make if difficult for the oring to be fited in properly.

              I am using a 1" offset adapter , but most will prefer the non-offset adapters. The adapter has internal air passages that routes the air from the direct mount ASA into the LPR air passage hole you seen between the 4-40 socket screws on the bottom of the frame. Missing from the pic is an o-ring for a seal.

              A small hole need to be drill on the top of the direct mount ASA, and the adaptor is used to route it to the correct location under the frame.

              Garf


              Originally posted by txaggie08
              You might have just sold one right there. Are you saying we may be able to use and driect mount ASA on this with minimal modification? are we talking about drilling a hole to get it on there or bolt on somehow?

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              • G-Force Tech
                Registered User
                • Aug 2007
                • 182

                #292
                The adapter can be in-line or offset in my setup. The tank bothers my wrist so the offset works fine.

                The ASA needs a hole drilled for air but that hole may not be in the correct location. The adaptor routes the air directly under the frame at a certain location.

                Garf

                Originally posted by warbeak2099
                Does the adapter for a standard on/off ASA have to be offset? Will you be making an adapter that is not offset? Also, will you be selling modded ASA's?

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                • warbeak2099
                  That is my foot!
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 4447

                  #293
                  Originally posted by G-Force Tech
                  The adapter can be in-line or offset in my setup. The tank bothers my wrist so the offset works fine.

                  The ASA needs a hole drilled for air but that hole may not be in the correct location. The adaptor routes the air directly under the frame at a certain location.

                  Garf
                  Cool, I'd prefer the inline adapter. But what about the ASA mod, will G-Force be performing that? I think I speak for others when I say I don't feel comfortable drilling into a $50 CP on/off direct mount.
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                  • G-Force Tech
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 182

                    #294
                    The adaptor plate is used to route the air from the ASA into the bottom of the grip frame. The adaptor plate allows for popular ASA to be used.

                    If you like the machining on our prototypes, you'll like the machining on the production products.


                    Originally posted by Pneumagger
                    I must ask, Why the odd mounting block for the ASA? Isn't the ASA bolt on as-is?

                    machining looks sharp! +1

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                    • G-Force Tech
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 182

                      #295
                      The adaptor saves a lot of time. Everyone has a favorite ASA so providing my own would not be the ideal thing.

                      The CP mod was very easy. Just measure and mark the hole location. Use a punch to ensure the drill does not wander, and drill. Any mistakes will be covered up by the adapter.

                      I think most people will settle on the external LPR setup from what I see from the DIY.


                      Garf





                      Originally posted by warbeak2099
                      Cool, I'd prefer the inline adapter. But what about the ASA mod, will G-Force be performing that? I think I speak for others when I say I don't feel comfortable drilling into a $50 CP on/off direct mount.

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                      • G-Force Tech
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 182

                        #296
                        The Micro-LPR is still a prototype and need further testing.

                        Most people will be running the external LPR until its ready.

                        Garf

                        PS. Next production run is in Jan-Feb 2008 for Mar-Apr 2008 delivery.



                        Originally posted by Pudgey51
                        that and how do we order one of the asa's all ready for a sleeper set up? (meaning gas thru the grip into a internal LPR)

                        edit: and what numbers r we talkin bout production wise, i dunno if i missed it or not but how long do i have to decide to order one of these, pending the answers to my above questions

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                        • warbeak2099
                          That is my foot!
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 4447

                          #297
                          Originally posted by G-Force Tech
                          The adaptor saves a lot of time. Everyone has a favorite ASA so providing my own would not be the ideal thing.

                          The CP mod was very easy. Just measure and mark the hole location. Use a punch to ensure the drill does not wander, and drill. Any mistakes will be covered up by the adapter.

                          I think most people will settle on the external LPR setup from what I see from the DIY.


                          Garf
                          There's nothing you can hit if you drill too far or anything? I really want to build a sleeper mag to possibly use in the NEPL but I do not want to jack up my CP direct mount lol.
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                          • G-Force Tech
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 182

                            #298
                            I prefer the sleeper mag too. Looks plain until you let it rip.

                            If you drill too far, you hit empty space.


                            Originally posted by warbeak2099
                            There's nothing you can hit if you drill too far or anything? I really want to build a sleeper mag to possibly use in the NEPL but I do not want to jack up my CP direct mount lol.

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                            • G-Force Tech
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 182

                              #299
                              Cocker version. Tippmann version, .....Spyder version.....

                              All in the works.

                              Mag version first.


                              Originally posted by Badger
                              Yes, yes. Inquiring Minds need to know!

                              *anxiously dry washing hands*

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                              • cyrus-the-virus
                                http://www.thepbforum.com/
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 1259

                                #300
                                not bad, not bad at all. But I'll wait until the internal LPR version comes out.

                                Cy.

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