G-Force to release pneumatic frames for the Mags

[Pneumagger]

Fixed.

Seriously, though, I see it as a safety issue. I'm careful with my marker anyway when it comes to safety, but $200 is a lot to drop on a frame that could get your marker banned at the field.

They wont ban your marker. If they do they would have to ban every ion, and a majority of many other electros as they have no manual safeties. On those guns you have to turn the gun off to "safe" it. On a pneumatic frame all you have to do is unscrew the the on/off and it bleeds out. It's a pretty logical comparison.

IMO, trusting a mechanical safety to stop .5mm (.020") of trigger movement is Grade A retard material. What's more likely to fire, a trigger that only needs to flex .5mm in spite of the safety or a degassed marker that has no air supply.

the only way for G-force to reliably incorporate a manual safety is do so like an Emag or hyperframe safety that prevents the sear from moving.

[Don Carnage]

I will 100% order one once the sleeper version is available.

When I first decided to buy an all mech high-end gun, my top two choices were a mag or the G-Force. Now I will have both in one.

Are the triggers inerchangable with regular AGD triggers? i,e. can I put my current trigger on it?

Do you forsee any chance of selling pre-drilled ASA's in the popular styles? I will be using a CP one anyway \, but I do not have tools or skill to tap it myself. I would rather buy a pro-tapped one from you.

[G-Force Tech]

There is no "sleeper" version.

All you need to add is the Micro-LPR then it is a "sleeper" version. The Micro-LPR is not ready for production so don't wait on that forever. I am sure an airsmith can stuff a ready available LPR into our frame.

If and when the Micro-LPR is shipping, it will be sold as a separate item for those that want an internal LPR. An external LPR is easier to adjust, whereas the internal LPR requires you to take off the grips to adjust it.

Our frames do not use AGD triggers. We redesigned the geometry so it can walk as fast as any semi-electro. They also come standard with dual ball bearings and fully adjustable.

We won't be offering any pre-drilled ASA since there are so many versions that need to be offer to satisfy everyone. If you prefer a drop forward or cradle style ASA, then the only option is an external LPR. Only a direct mount ASA with air bleed is highly recommended with the internal LPR set up. I only know of a few ASAs that has air bleed built in.

If you are using the CP like me, you do not have to tap it. A single tiny hole needs to be drilled. I am sure there are mag airsmiths that will do it for you. So many people in the past have already sent in their frames airsmiths to be converted to pneumatic which is a much more complex than drilling a single hole in a ASA.


Garf

I will 100% order one once the sleeper version is available.

When I first decided to buy an all mech high-end gun, my top two choices were a mag or the G-Force. Now I will have both in one.

Are the triggers inerchangable with regular AGD triggers? i,e. can I put my current trigger on it?

Do you forsee any chance of selling pre-drilled ASA's in the popular styles? I will be using a CP one anyway \, but I do not have tools or skill to tap it myself. I would rather buy a pro-tapped one from you.

[jaywmustang]

hey garf, i am planning on gettin one but what do i need besides the lpr for a external mount?

[luke]

Safety.

Why not just have the low pressure air going to the components pass through a simple push button safety? Safety "on" blocks incoming air and bleeds the down stream air?

[tech-chan]

I like the idea Luke, and G-force: Will there be sexier millinh on the trigger? The way it is now I would'nt buy it. Just wanted to know...

[G-Force Tech]

Other than any LPR with 1/8-NPT threading, you need a front vert ASA adaptor that already has front ports in it. I asked RobAGD, and was told AGD or Lapco has one. I looked but can't confirm that front ports are pre-tappped. Can anyone else confirm.

hey garf, i am planning on gettin one but what do i need besides the lpr for a external mount?

[G-Force Tech]

The trigger in the pre-production frame pics came from our old prototype S1 and 68Super. A new style trigger will be shipped on the production frames which are designed for faster walking with the new geometry. I will post that once they are ready in a few days.

Garf

I like the idea Luke, and G-force: Will there be sexier millinh on the trigger? The way it is now I would'nt buy it. Just wanted to know...

[jaywmustang]

what is the operational pressure for the frame?

[G-Force Tech]

We are using a CP on/off ASA that has a bleeder feature which works great. Also Newdesignz has one as well.

Garf

Safety.

Why not just have the low pressure air going to the components pass through a simple push button safety? Safety "on" blocks incoming air and bleeds the down stream air?

[G-Force Tech]

A pressure of 60 to 80 psi required. Any LPR can supply 20 to 100psi easily.

what is the operational pressure for the frame?

[G-Force Tech]

The frames will NOT be sold with an internal LPR.

The Micro-LPR will be a separate optional upgrade that can be purchased.

If you must have an internal LPR then install a LPR that is readily available. An airsmith can modify the frame to fit any LPR which has been done on the DIY versions now.

Garf

not bad, not bad at all. But I'll wait until the internal LPR version comes out.

Cy.

[G-Force Tech]

There will not be a version offered with a built-in LPR.

The LPR will be a separate upgrade.

If you need or must have a frame with an internal LPR then have an airsmith fit any of the readily available LPR into it.

If you run an internal LPR, the on/off ASA needs to be drilled to get air to the frame. A few have indicated their reluctance to drill the ASA which has to be done.

Also an internal LPR requires the grips to be taken off to adjust it.

Garf

I think I am with you on that one Cyrus.
I want the internal LPR too.
I want to buy one thats a complete setup.
I will take one when it includes everything hidden in the trigger frame.
Hopefully that will be next run Garf ?

Dont all fields require safeties on markers though ?
How is that going to work if you spend all that money and then you can only use it playing renegade ?
Once a ref or owner knows a marker has no safety, they are obligated to ban
it in order to keep their insurance, arent they ?
And you know its going to draw a crowd when it starts ripping, with no batteries.
Methinks it needs a safety Garf. Better look at that again sir.

[TheTramp]

[Muzikman]

What is all the chatter about safties? Most of my guns have not had a trigger safety since the mid-late 90's. The safety is turning off air supply and using a barrel plug/bag. Unless this is some new rule at fields requiring trigger safeties, you'll be fine.