How To Put An Ego Frame On A Mag

[p8ntbal4me]

Might sound like a stupid question but do you have to disable the eyes each time?

As I remember mine was setup stock to auto sense and eye fault.

Meaning: If they eyes are not working (or plain just not there), there is a seperate setting bank it uses by default.

The UTB (or any Scenario Dreams product) when setup correctly test for eyes on the boot up and after 2 shots it defaults to a setting for "eye fault".

~ P8nt

[p8ntbal4me]

Might sound like a stupid question.......

And no,.... it was not stupid

~ P8nt

[latches109]

Hey, I'm considering doing this project also, but I have one issue. Why is it necessary to put in a noid and pneumatic actuator into the grip frame? Couldn't it be possible to simply put an electromagnetic sear tripper straight into the board so it trips the sear. I had this old one from my PMI Piranha, and I thought i could use it...


The 9 Volt is there for size comparison. I realize that I would need to mill it down a bit. Would it still work?

you have to use a capacitor. might as well use a spyder frame. or you can reinvent the wheel..i know i have tried a few times.


power to the eyes turns off when you degas your gun. i love level ten!

[kenjay]

Seems eminent that I will be trying this soon. Was looking at picking up an Etek frame with board. However, from what I've researched, the Etek uses a different solenoid that the Ego uses. I "believe" the Ego uses a 5v solenoid (difficulty finding info on the Ego solenoid), but I have found that the Etek uses a 6v solenoid. Would I be limited to using 6v solenoids, or could I use the 5v solenoids that are popular and easier to find?

[p8ntbal4me]

Seems eminent that I will be trying this soon. Was looking at picking up an Etek frame with board. However, from what I've researched, the Etek uses a different solenoid that the Ego uses. I "believe" the Ego uses a 5v solenoid (difficulty finding info on the Ego solenoid), but I have found that the Etek uses a 6v solenoid. Would I be limited to using 6v solenoids, or could I use the 5v solenoids that are popular and easier to find?

You can use the 5 or 6 volt solenoids,... it wont kill anything major in the long run.

You just cant have a board that is underpowered,.. like the Racegun boards.

[kenjay]

Thanks. I'll give it a shot then. Was just worried about sending 6volts into a 5volt solenoid and causing failure (short term or long term). I do not see a maximum voltage listed in the datasheets of most solenoids.

[p8ntbal4me]

Thanks. I'll give it a shot then. Was just worried about sending 6volts into a 5volt solenoid and causing failure (short term or long term). I do not see a maximum voltage listed in the datasheets of most solenoids.

General rule of thumb is "not more than double the voltage + 2/4volts".

If your looking at a solenoid,.. post it up here with the complete make and model and I will just tell you.

~ P8nt

[kenjay]

It'd be the small guy, the smc s070.

[p8ntbal4me]

It'd be the small guy, the smc s070.

Yeah you will be fine.

The voltage on those run lower anyways. I havent had any issues with them on the EGO boards,... Im sure the power output on all PE boards is 5.5volts

~ P8nt

[drewkroeker]

Hopefully someone on here can help me solve some issues with my egomag. Here's the story:

I bought an egomag on in the BST that wasn't fully tuned. I knew this beforehand so no biggie there. When I gassed it up and turned it on, I could fire one shot, but would have to wait for pressure to build up before the ram could fully actuate and fire again. Think billy ball (for those that haven't heard about it, a quick search on either pbn or mcarterbrown will fill you in ) I tried troubleshooting it myself. I turned up the LPR a bit and when that didn't help, I took apart the ram to see if there was anything I could fix. I took off the o ring on the plunger seat to let it slide better and superglued the plunger to the plunger seat to keep it from falling out (If these terms are incorrect, please advise). This didn't help either so I turned the LPR up further. This blew a hose, possibly damaged the solenoid, and prompted me to search the BST for a good used intelliframe.

I guess paintball withdrawal and winter idleness prompted me to look for a way to get the egomag up and running. I purchased a micro rock from palmers and a new mpa3. The plunger on the mpa3 came loose so it will have to be superglued before further testing. I swapped my old one in, but no luck. I'm still getting one usable shot and then having to wait several seconds before I can fire again. The x valve I'm using has a ult in it, if that has any bearing on the situation.

So, any solutions come to mind? A new or different solenoid might have a faster recharge rate. The solenoid currently in the gun is the SMC SY113A-SG-PM3. The best idea I can think of is to send the entire setup and extra parts to someone who knows what they're doing.

[p8ntbal4me]

Whats your Dwell at?

Almost sounds like your solenoid has been over pressurized and is toast.

~ P8nt

[drewkroeker]

Whats your Dwell at?

Almost sounds like your solenoid has been over pressurized and is toast.

~ P8nt

I honestly don't know what the dwell is at or how to adjust it. I will see if pushing buttons and cycling through settings will find it but I have not come across it. And yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if the solenoid done for. I just didn't really want to buy a new solenoid, I was hoping a new LPR and mpa3 would get things up and running.

As of now, I think I'll just fork out some cash for another solenoid. After buying a micro rock and other components, I might as well. Other people have built these so I know that I can build one or get one built for me too!


EDIT: I found the dwell and it is currently set at 10.0 ms.

[kenjay]

are you turning the eyes off every time you turn the gun on?

[drewkroeker]

No, I have not touched the eye settings. But that is not the problem, as far as I can tell. The solenoid just isn't cycling properly. I have ordered a new one from airsoldier.

[kenjay]

If the gun doesn't have anti-chop eyes installed, the gun will not fire correctly upon powering it up. The eyes will turn themselves on everytime you turn the gun on. So everytime you turn the gun on, you'll need to turn the eyes off. However, ignore this if your gun does indeed have the eyes custom installed.