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  • Ando
    Magusmaximus
    • Jun 2009
    • 4144

    #16
    Originally posted by roxcreek
    Thanks, I'm trying to install the RT E-Mag Valve onto a AM/MM rail, Intelliframe, Am/MM sear and ULE body. After a little research in the AGD store, I saw how E-Mag on/offs are shorter than Standards. Thus, I have discovered my largest issue with the system: personal ignorance. Could I simply swap my current (E-Mag) On/off pin for the regular RT pin and expect their lengths to be the only functional difference? For that matter, could I just order a RT assembly and pop it right in with some lube, and have it fit? Is there any way I can order a replacement On/off main housing so that I can install the ULT kit?
    Yes you can purchase a e-mag pin and just swap that out or grind your current one. No need to buy a complete assy. Like vf said those valves won't work with the ULT unless modded by Luke or who ever else does it. You'll be risking the valve tho.

    Your question about purchasing a housing...Hmmm...Just get a X valve and you'll be G2G (good too go)
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    • vf-xx
      Henchmen Inc.
      • Nov 2001
      • 3311

      #17
      Originally posted by Ando
      Yes you can purchase a e-mag pin and just swap that out or grind your current one. No need to buy a complete assy. Like vf said those valves won't work with the ULT unless modded by Luke or who ever else does it. You'll be risking the valve tho.

      Your question about purchasing a housing...Hmmm...Just get a X valve and you'll be G2G (good too go)
      Don't think you'll be risking the valve. I have a modded ReTro valve (same as the emag valve) and it runs a ULT just fine. Has for years.
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      • roxcreek
        the designated driver
        • Jul 2008
        • 251

        #18
        right now, I'm trying to trade out this valve for an X or an RT in the BST section here on AO.

        Ando, I unfortunately could not just grind down the pin because it is already shorter than a standard (RTs are .750, e-mags are .712) that would be really nice though. I think trading is my best bet now becasue I don't want to ruin a perfectly good piece of AGD tech when they're already hard to find.

        Thanks for all the help you guys, I'm still learning, but I certainly have come a long way.

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        • Shirow
          www.digitalgunfire.com
          • Aug 2002
          • 2023

          #19
          Originally posted by roxcreek
          right now, I'm trying to trade out this valve for an X or an RT in the BST section here on AO.

          Ando, I unfortunately could not just grind down the pin because it is already shorter than a standard (RTs are .750, e-mags are .712) that would be really nice though. I think trading is my best bet now becasue I don't want to ruin a perfectly good piece of AGD tech when they're already hard to find.

          Thanks for all the help you guys, I'm still learning, but I certainly have come a long way.
          I'm sure Tuna or someone else can sell you an on/off pin for a small amount of money.

          Don't bother with the ULT, you'll catch the pneu bug soon, buy a cheater and have to switch back to an RT on/off anyway :)
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          • Coralis
            Hyper Micro
            • Aug 2005
            • 1285

            #20
            Wait a min you are trying to put a emag valve into a am/mm rail ? if so the rt on/off should work just fine . Try putting the valve with what you had set up before (level 10 wise) and pull the trigger if the leak stops then your level 10 is the leak source, if it continues to leak check your on/off rings. On a side note does the gun "cock" when you apply air pressure to it.

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            • roxcreek
              the designated driver
              • Jul 2008
              • 251

              #21
              the main problems I am encountering now are that when I gas it up, the sear aplies pressure to the trigger, but I cannot pull the trigger far enough to get the forward power tube holding area to gas up (the trigger has pressure on it but I can't get it to fire). The other issue has been during the scarce moments I can get the bolt to pressurize: There is an bsence of necessary pressure to get the bolt to travel all the way forward, so it chuffs prematurely, and without a blockage.

              The Minimag Valve is compatiable with the ULT right? I've got a whole nother trail of issues going off with this direction.

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              • vf-xx
                Henchmen Inc.
                • Nov 2001
                • 3311

                #22
                No, ULT's only work in RT style valves.

                Yes, it does sound like your RT on/off pin is too short, but if you get a full length pin (which is cheap) you should be fine.

                Couple of things that can cause the bolt to do that. First question is: what carrier are you on, and what spring?
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                • roxcreek
                  the designated driver
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 251

                  #23
                  I've had the bolt on the 2.0 carrier and the .5 carrier and both produced the same result, i've also tested with multiple shim levels. I think I mostly need to get past the "pin-is-too-short" part before I need to be worrying about the lvl 10 tuning issues, because I know for a fact that the pin is too short for now.

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                  • Ando
                    Magusmaximus
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 4144

                    #24
                    WTH...your pin is below .712? Who butchered that? Get yourself a new pin and I bet all your problems will be fixed. If your going to buy a new one. Might as well buy one for both mec and e-mag lengths.
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                    • roxcreek
                      the designated driver
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 251

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Ando
                      WTH...your pin is below .712? Who butchered that? Get yourself a new pin and I bet all your problems will be fixed. If your going to buy a new one. Might as well buy one for both mec and e-mag lengths.

                      what? I said the mine is currently at .712, which is too short for mechanical operation.

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                      • Ando
                        Magusmaximus
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 4144

                        #26
                        I for some reason thought you were trying to install this on a set of E-Lowers...lol...

                        Just buy a pin bro. You'll be waiting for a while trying to get your valve swapped.
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                        • roxcreek
                          the designated driver
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 251

                          #27
                          Good point, I wish they sold just the pins, I don't want to have to spend 35 on a whole new assy.

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                          • vf-xx
                            Henchmen Inc.
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 3311

                            #28
                            give Tuna an email.

                            i'm sure he's got one, or can get one.
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                            • maniacmechanic
                              PrestonCoPaintball
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 3453

                              #29
                              They do

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                              • Ando
                                Magusmaximus
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 4144

                                #30
                                Originally posted by maniacmechanic
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