ShoeBox Compressor Important Information, 30 Day Money back YES --- Warranty NO

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  • rschoi_75
    Registered User

    • Jun 2010
    • 188

    #106
    Read through and agreed to terms..... 91207

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    • marauder25
      Registered User
      • Jun 2010
      • 3

      #107
      Hi Tom,Made it in . I agree to the 30 day return policy and my zip is 98032.Regards, Doyle.

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      • kd4arf
        Registered User
        • Jun 2010
        • 6

        #108
        Originally posted by kd4arf
        6-7-10
        1302hrs

        Hello Tom,

        I have read and understand the limited warrantee.

        My zip is 23322

        Regards and thanks for making it available!


        R. Steve Haynes

        I would encourage everyone to include an extra 3% in your order. Tom is already taking a hit and he will get nailed wiith about 3% paypal charges.

        I did and got a very nice message back from carol....made it all worthwhile....

        Lets help him out for doing this for us!!!

        Steve

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        • Ando
          Magusmaximus
          • Jun 2009
          • 4144

          #109
          Just send it personal. If you can't trust Tom who can you trust.
          My Feedback

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          • jdonovan
            Registered User
            • Jun 2010
            • 1

            #110
            I've read your terms and agree with the no warranty/money back only

            Zip 20187

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            • patrgro
              Registered User
              • Jun 2010
              • 1

              #111
              Money back thing OK--60618

              The money back thing's just fine by me. 60618--I'll even pick it up, if possible.



              Originally posted by AGD
              ShoeBox Compressor Important Information, 30 Day Money back YES---
              Warrantee NO


              This is an important explanation of the warrantee situation on the
              compressor. As may of you know from the past, I fixed Automags for
              free for many many years after they were sold. In order to give you
              the least expensive price on this compressor, I can not give this
              type of warrantee again.

              As an example, if the compressor was priced the same way I priced
              the Automag (based on a multiple of the actual parts cost), it would
              be 1,200 dollars. You made it very clear to me on the forms that if
              it was priced at 500 dollars or more, you were not interested. So I did
              my job and brought it in under 400 dollars and still reduced the
              fill times by 5x from the original estimates.

              The other problem with a compressor vs a marker is the amount of run
              time. You can't possibly shoot a marker 24/7 but some of you will
              turn on this compressor and let it run non-stop until it breaks.
              Many of you will try to over pressure the system to shorten your run
              times and there is no way I can control that. The sharp guys will
              fiddle with the gearing to tune it to the max and in the process
              melt something down. I can't be responsible for these things.

              Again in order to keep the price down, I will not have a phone line
              for tech support. I will be answering tech questions on the new
              compressor forum here. I am also working on getting Tuna and others
              to do tech support. I am using the Autococker model in this case.
              Budd didn't do much tech support but the dealers loved him because
              everyone came in to the shops for support. As you see with the hose,
              there will be lots of ups and extras that you can get for the
              ShoeBox from your dealer.

              I don't want anyone to feel like they got ripped off from owning one
              of my products, so I will offer a 30 day MONEY BACK NO QUESTIONS
              ASKED policy. You have to pay for the return shipping. I will refund
              the original price of the compressor (but not the original shipping
              to you). If you buy it from a dealer, you have to get your money
              back from the dealer and then I will refund the dealer directly. If
              you didn't give me the money originally, don't expect me to fix a
              problem you have with a dealer.

              If you get one of these units, plug it in, and a part breaks in half
              due to a manufacturing defect, I will repair or replace the unit at
              our discretion. If you give me grief, I reserve the right to give
              you your money back.

              So that is the bad news, but here is the good stuff. Most of the
              small parts even up to and including the pistons, can be purchased
              reasonably online at McMaster Carr. This includes the chains,
              sprockets, bushings, bearings, pressure fittings, pressure tube,
              axles, clips, bolts and some of the orings. You can literally
              rebuild every wear part in the unit from McMaster. I will also have
              an online store with replacement parts soon.

              How long will it last? Thats a question many of you are asking right
              now. In fact we just don't know. I have tried to kill the prototype.
              Beemer is trying to kill a production model right now. We hooked one
              up at 650 rpm (the stock speed is 200) and it jumped across the
              floor....for 15 minutes...(Beemer hid in the other room)...it
              finally stopped pumping a few minutes later (but didn't stop jumping
              around) so we shut it off. The excessive heat had melted the
              delrin backcheck but NOT the high temp oring (got to love viton). We
              have never worn out an oring or piston or cylinder in all the weeks
              of testing. The only thing that stops it pumping is high heat from
              compression melting something because you over reved it or a flake
              of crap getting wedged in the backcheck valve.

              So if you have actually read to the end of this long winded
              diatribe, you are one of the guys I want to sell the first batch
              too. This is actually the official order list. To be officially on
              the list you need to reply in this thread with something like "The
              money back thing is ok with me!!" AND YOUR ZIP CODE. When we get
              units ready to ship, we will pm you with a shipping cost and a total
              price. You will need to paypal the money into our account and it
              will be on its way. Remember, you need to post that you read and
              understand the limited warrantee and your zip code.

              Thanks everyone! Looking forward to a successful roll out.

              Tom Kaye

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              • Sneaky Sir
                Registered User
                • Oct 2009
                • 271

                #112
                Got my Shoebox today. Must say I'm very impressed with it, its a very neat little contraption

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                • marauder25
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 3

                  #113
                  Just bought an SCBA tank and hose to go with the minni compressor
                  Hey Carol,I'm ready to pull the trigger(pun intended)

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                  • Two Dogs
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 1

                    #114
                    "The money back thing is ok with me!!" I have read and understand the limited warrantee. 47586

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                    • CaseyE
                      Registered User
                      • May 2010
                      • 2

                      #115
                      Read and accepted the terms. Zip 28806

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                      • CaseyE
                        Registered User
                        • May 2010
                        • 2

                        #116
                        Originally posted by CaseyE
                        Read and accepted the terms. Zip 28806

                        How 'bout one for your buddy Casey? I'll be your best friend!

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                        • AGD
                          The man from AGD

                          • Oct 2000
                          • 5916

                          #117
                          All,

                          We are close to closing the order list for the first run. If your on this order thread, your on the list. There have been several emails from customers thinking they didn't make it. At this moment, if your on the list, you will be getting an email from us but it could take several weeks.

                          We are only building 2 a day so please stand by.

                          Thanks

                          AGD
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                          • Ghos-tman
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 1

                            #118
                            I have read the policy and agree with it completely. I hope i make the cut, 51046.

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                            • redgmc1
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1

                              #119
                              Add to list

                              I have read and accept Russ Meyer 67212
                              Originally posted by AGD
                              ShoeBox Compressor Important Information, 30 Day Money back YES---
                              Warrantee NO


                              This is an important explanation of the warrantee situation on the
                              compressor. As may of you know from the past, I fixed Automags for
                              free for many many years after they were sold. In order to give you
                              the least expensive price on this compressor, I can not give this
                              type of warrantee again.

                              As an example, if the compressor was priced the same way I priced
                              the Automag (based on a multiple of the actual parts cost), it would
                              be 1,200 dollars. You made it very clear to me on the forms that if
                              it was priced at 500 dollars or more, you were not interested. So I did
                              my job and brought it in under 400 dollars and still reduced the
                              fill times by 5x from the original estimates.

                              The other problem with a compressor vs a marker is the amount of run
                              time. You can't possibly shoot a marker 24/7 but some of you will
                              turn on this compressor and let it run non-stop until it breaks.
                              Many of you will try to over pressure the system to shorten your run
                              times and there is no way I can control that. The sharp guys will
                              fiddle with the gearing to tune it to the max and in the process
                              melt something down. I can't be responsible for these things.

                              Again in order to keep the price down, I will not have a phone line
                              for tech support. I will be answering tech questions on the new
                              compressor forum here. I am also working on getting Tuna and others
                              to do tech support. I am using the Autococker model in this case.
                              Budd didn't do much tech support but the dealers loved him because
                              everyone came in to the shops for support. As you see with the hose,
                              there will be lots of ups and extras that you can get for the
                              ShoeBox from your dealer.

                              I don't want anyone to feel like they got ripped off from owning one
                              of my products, so I will offer a 30 day MONEY BACK NO QUESTIONS
                              ASKED policy. You have to pay for the return shipping. I will refund
                              the original price of the compressor (but not the original shipping
                              to you). If you buy it from a dealer, you have to get your money
                              back from the dealer and then I will refund the dealer directly. If
                              you didn't give me the money originally, don't expect me to fix a
                              problem you have with a dealer.

                              If you get one of these units, plug it in, and a part breaks in half
                              due to a manufacturing defect, I will repair or replace the unit at
                              our discretion. If you give me grief, I reserve the right to give
                              you your money back.

                              So that is the bad news, but here is the good stuff. Most of the
                              small parts even up to and including the pistons, can be purchased
                              reasonably online at McMaster Carr. This includes the chains,
                              sprockets, bushings, bearings, pressure fittings, pressure tube,
                              axles, clips, bolts and some of the orings. You can literally
                              rebuild every wear part in the unit from McMaster. I will also have
                              an online store with replacement parts soon.

                              How long will it last? Thats a question many of you are asking right
                              now. In fact we just don't know. I have tried to kill the prototype.
                              Beemer is trying to kill a production model right now. We hooked one
                              up at 650 rpm (the stock speed is 200) and it jumped across the
                              floor....for 15 minutes...(Beemer hid in the other room)...it
                              finally stopped pumping a few minutes later (but didn't stop jumping
                              around) so we shut it off. The excessive heat had melted the
                              delrin backcheck but NOT the high temp oring (got to love viton). We
                              have never worn out an oring or piston or cylinder in all the weeks
                              of testing. The only thing that stops it pumping is high heat from
                              compression melting something because you over reved it or a flake
                              of crap getting wedged in the backcheck valve.

                              So if you have actually read to the end of this long winded
                              diatribe, you are one of the guys I want to sell the first batch
                              too. This is actually the official order list. To be officially on
                              the list you need to reply in this thread with something like "The
                              money back thing is ok with me!!" AND YOUR ZIP CODE. When we get
                              units ready to ship, we will pm you with a shipping cost and a total
                              price. You will need to paypal the money into our account and it
                              will be on its way. Remember, you need to post that you read and
                              understand the limited warrantee and your zip code.

                              Thanks everyone! Looking forward to a successful roll out.

                              Tom Kaye

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                              • thecat1
                                Registered User
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 4

                                #120
                                shoebox compressor

                                I argee with the money back thing and everything else!
                                Morris W
                                ZIP: 38135
                                Last edited by thecat1; 07-08-2010, 08:48 AM.

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