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  • VeeWee
    Registered User
    • May 2006
    • 136

    #1576
    Without re-reading everything, what is involved with tuning this gun? If it is something that has some instruction and maybe some decent online help I'd like to try it myself, if it is a complete pain in the arse I'll pass it onto someone that knows what they are doing.

    Also to help with your cash flow problem if you have a bolt-on frame and a Super Ule rail laying around I have cash and a home for it.

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    • manwe33
      Waiting 4 my LogicRipperEM
      • Jul 2006
      • 574

      #1577
      Beautiful flat out beautiful Cant wait

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      • CoolHand
        Logic Industries LLC
        • Jan 2003
        • 3769

        #1578
        Originally posted by VeeWee
        Without re-reading everything, what is involved with tuning this gun? If it is something that has some instruction and maybe some decent online help I'd like to try it myself, if it is a complete pain in the arse I'll pass it onto someone that knows what they are doing.

        Also to help with your cash flow problem if you have a bolt-on frame and a Super Ule rail laying around I have cash and a home for it.

        Honestly, I have no idea how to program these new boards.

        The only thing you need to do to make it shoot is set the dwell to between 15ms and 25ms.

        That's what I used with the Predator boards, but I have no idea if that's going to be the right range for these new boards or not.

        I'd assume so, because the solenoids and all that are the same, but you never know.

        The LPR must be set at some pressure below 70 PSI. The solenoids will blow above 70, and as far as I can tell, Numatics doesn't stock them anymore, so getting another one will be a three month ordeal having to get it built special from Japan. In other words, don't exceed 70 PSI, or you'll be very sorry.

        That's about it.

        Obviously, it is much easier to tell you what to do than to actually do it.

        My advice is to set the LPR pressure to like 45 or 50 PSI, the dwell to about 20ms, and see what velocity you end up with.

        If you chuff or don't shoot, throw a little more pressure at it until it will shoot, just be aware that 70 PSI is the limit. If you make it to 70 and are still having trouble, there is something wrong with the Mag valve, or the actuator needs to be lubed.

        You want to use the highest dwell that won't limit your ROF. I'm almost certain that I ended up using 15ms with the Pred boards, but that was forced by their stupid holdoff settings which reduced the ROF artificially if I set it any longer. The velocity was consistent though, so I guess it was fine.

        That's the part that is going to take some time.

        Set the board and LPR, take some paint, check the ROF, check the velocity, check for shoot down, etc. Rinse, Repeat, etc, until you get it where you want it.

        That's how I would have to do it as well.

        If you have a bolt-on, you have to swap out the mechanical On/Off pin and oring from your On/Off for the EMag length pin and quad-ring I send along with the frame.

        The full markers come with an EMag on/off already in them.

        And I do have bolt-on kits and a SULE rail to sell.

        There will be a post coming in a few mins with all the Mag stuff I found and am wanting to sell.

        Ryan Shanks
        Logic Industries LLC

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        • CoolHand
          Logic Industries LLC
          • Jan 2003
          • 3769

          #1579
          OK, after the smoke cleared, I found that had seven (7) bolt-on kits left to sell.

          They are unanodized, except for one, which was poorly anodized blue.

          Love the color, but the ano shop did a crap job on prep, so it'll need to be redone. At least they didn't polish it to death like some places do. Reano shouldn't be a problem because of that.

          Price for each kit is $300 + shipping. They come totally unassembled and unanodized.

          They come with all the hardware, screws, orings, pins, bearing, hose, etc, necessary to assemble the frame.

          I'll even include a set of grips (your choice, red or blue).

          The only thing you will need that I will not be supplying (because I'm out of them) is an LPR. Any autococker LPR with a 1/8" NPT mount will work.

          The electronics are all included, and totally assembled, all you have to do is bolt them into the frame. No soldering required.


          Pictars:









          I also have a bunch of brand new Mag parts left over:

          Two (2) brand new X-Valves with LVL X bolts ($199 each + shipping):



          Two (2) brand new EMag rails with rail bushings ($45 each + shipping):





          You can see the rest of the stuff I found that is for sale by going to the thread I linked to two posts down from this one.

          Last edited by CoolHand; 08-17-2010, 03:40 PM.
          Ryan Shanks
          Logic Industries LLC

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          • CoolHand
            Logic Industries LLC
            • Jan 2003
            • 3769

            #1580
            See the sale thread link below.

            Last edited by CoolHand; 08-17-2010, 03:39 PM.
            Ryan Shanks
            Logic Industries LLC

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            • CoolHand
              Logic Industries LLC
              • Jan 2003
              • 3769

              #1581
              Link to the clearance thread:

              Clicky Here to go see what's for sale.

              Ryan Shanks
              Logic Industries LLC

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              • boredcentral
                Registered User
                • Dec 2004
                • 62

                #1582
                I sent you a PM with my address.


                Originally posted by CoolHand
                Alright, it's time to hash out all the shipping details.

                I have addresses from the following people:

                Going_Home - Being sent to P8nt for tuning
                fshrmn76
                joelbird - Being sent to P8nt for tuning
                Papa_Smurf - Being sent to P8nt for tuning
                VeeWee
                UTDragon
                manwe33
                ironchef97
                RFLMN1 - Being sent to P8nt for tuning


                If anyone on this list has moved since they gave me their address, they need to PM me so I can update my list.

                I still need address confirmation from the following people:

                Matthew Hirota
                Rick Salazar
                gortman44


                Other than that, we're all square.

                I'm still working on Manwe33's bolt-on, but I'll have it done today.

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                • p8ntbal4me
                  No more UTBs!
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2560

                  #1583
                  Guys;

                  I have received the boxes (2) that contain those guns I am to tune via our agreement.

                  I have to inventory the items first,.. see if there is any details needed to speak with Ryan about,.. then I will begin to tune the markers as requested.

                  ~ P8nt

                  _______________________
                  Jai "P8ntbal4me" Menard

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                  • CoolHand
                    Logic Industries LLC
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 3769

                    #1584
                    I have addresses from the following people:

                    Going_Home - With P8nt
                    fshrmn76
                    joelbird - With P8nt
                    Papa_Smurf - With P8nt
                    VeeWee
                    UTDragon
                    manwe33
                    ironchef97
                    RFLMN1 - With P8nt
                    Matthew Hirota


                    If anyone on this list has moved since they gave me their address, they need to PM me so I can update my list.

                    I still need address confirmation from the following people:

                    gortman44

                    I've got labels printed out for everyone that I've got addresses for.

                    I'm going to make a push today to get them all packaged up so they can go out the door on Monday.

                    Sorry Jai, but it's still 95 degs here (the Weather guys lied again ), so the VMC is giving me the FOAD.

                    I'll post back when I've got them shipped.

                    Hang in there, just a few days to go now.

                    Last edited by CoolHand; 09-03-2010, 03:36 AM.
                    Ryan Shanks
                    Logic Industries LLC

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                    • CoolHand
                      Logic Industries LLC
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 3769

                      #1585
                      ALL THE PREORDERS I HAVE ADDRESSES FOR HAVE NOW BEEN SHIPPED!!!

                      The last guy I have not heard back from yet.

                      I hope he's still alive, after all this time.

                      If anyone knows him, give him a shout and let him know that his parts are done, and the only hold up is address confirmation.

                      Otherwise, though, I'm going to pronounce the PreOrders filled.

                      Thank God that's finally over with.

                      I also want to thank all of you guys for your exceptional patience.

                      I hope the markers and frames at least come close to meeting your expectations.



                      And now:

                      HUZZAH!

                      Last edited by CoolHand; 09-03-2010, 03:37 AM.
                      Ryan Shanks
                      Logic Industries LLC

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                      • cougar20th
                        Registered User

                        • Sep 2002
                        • 2330

                        #1586
                        You could send them a letter with your contact info & that their stuffs done to their last known address. That way your not sending anything worth any money.
                        Originally posted by dano_____
                        I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.

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                        • CoolHand
                          Logic Industries LLC
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 3769

                          #1587
                          Originally posted by cougar20th
                          You could send them a letter with your contact info & that their stuffs done to their last known address. That way your not sending anything worth any money.
                          That's actually a good idea.

                          I will do dat.
                          Ryan Shanks
                          Logic Industries LLC

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                          • Ando
                            Magusmaximus
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 4144

                            #1588
                            Good J.O.B. Beemer.
                            My Feedback

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                            • CoolHand
                              Logic Industries LLC
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 3769

                              #1589
                              Originally posted by Ando
                              Good J.O.B. Beemer.





                              In other news:

                              Charles Marsh

                              Go to the Post Office and demand they give you your marker.

                              They say the address you gave me is undeliverable.

                              Move quickly before they send the damned thing back or lose it.

                              Email me and I will send you a copy of the shipping label so you can retrieve the package.

                              Ryan Shanks
                              Logic Industries LLC

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                              • manwe33
                                Waiting 4 my LogicRipperEM
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 574

                                #1590
                                Just picked mine up in the mail Happy times

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