Any chance we could get the solenoid to work with a 9V? Might call for a custom emag length ULT on/off pin.
Any chance we could get the solenoid to work with a 9V? Might call for a custom emag length ULT on/off pin.
The solenoids that AGD chose to use can not be driven with a 9v source. Thats why we have to use an 18v battery.Originally Posted by splat15k
It has nothing to do with the board per say.....
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Jai "P8ntbal4me" Menard
Originally Posted by p8ntbal4me
Oh I thought that since you were considering sending new solenoids with the boards we could change the operating voltage while we're at it.
Operating voltage will be 5-30 voltsOriginally Posted by splat15k
I would most probably buy another emag just to have this option...
I think ima start saving up, you guys can put me down for one...
I would be fine with a new solenoid. I would love the idea of mole connectors on the board instead of a directly soldered on solenoid.
Originally Posted by TheePsycho
We are going to use JST rather than Molex connectors.
And all the connectors will be thru hole rather than SMD to make them even stronger.
jst connectors are fine as well.
Actually,... I should say that MOST of the connectors will be thru hole.Originally Posted by p8ntbal4me
We talked about 1 or 2 of them being SMD (surface mounted).
Anything is better than soldered on leads directly to the board.
Originally Posted by TheePsycho
You know what is the killer of that?
You can buy those connectors to plug the solenoid into that upper port now! LOL
Any chance the board will be LiPO friendly, i.e. low coltage cut-off?
Last edited by 2old2pb; 02-01-2011 at 06:31 PM. Reason: spelling
Low voltage cutoff,.. I believe thats what we are going to have happen involving the solenoid ports and aux ports.Originally Posted by 2old2pb
The idea is to switch the power rather than try to regulate it on every component.
It will be more power friendly than the OEM board I can assure you of that.
I haven't read through all 3 pages of info, and so far from what I've read it sounds like it'll be a good board. But has anybody approached Will from Tadao about producing a board ? He has the experience and resources to do them. I think if he could get enough interest from the AKA community to do boards for the Viking and Excal, I'm sure there'd be even more demand from the AGD Community.
If you can't join em, shoot em !
I talked with Will via email last year. Tadao was not interested in OEM work. Any of those guys (virtue, tadao, Hater, SE, SD) all have their PCB designs and out source the volume. The new PCB I'm developing is going thru the same process.Originally Posted by ghost271
cant wait!
Originally Posted by Ruler_Mark
Wellllll,.. you have too!
Low voltage cutoff has more to do with LiPO batteries than what's connected to the ports. LiPOs are much lighter than NiMH with the same amp/hours. The biggest problem is that LiPOs shouldn't be over discharged or they'll get really hot and vent hydrogen, i.e. explode. Thus a low voltage cutoff function is needed for LiPo use. A 5s1p 2000mah LiPO would be 18.4vdc, less than 10oz. and last for probably 3x as many shots as a stock battery pack. A decent 5s capable charger definitely goes less than the E-mag chargers for sale (if you can find one). Time to get current with battery technology, no pun intended.Originally Posted by p8ntbal4me
Originally Posted by 2old2pb
Id have to ask the engineer again about the "low battery" function of the board because thats what it looks like your asking about.
The circuit is going to "pickup" the signal either way and I know the chipset has an auto shutdown feature we are using. So the measures are there to avoid an "explosion" involving batteries.
The OEM board literally measured the resistance of the battery and once it hit a certain value it shut the board down. That was done with the circuit,.. not just the software.
Put me on the list.
This is something Iv looked into and been wanting to do for the last year, I called the company AGD used for the Solenoids, the guy I talked to knew exactly why AGD was using that model of noid, cause of the force required to push the Emag on/off. but if you used a ULT (which I think a few people have on emags here on AO for Mech mode more then E) you lower the force required to fire and it would be possible to use a Solenoid that can operate on a much smaller supply. even a 9v I think is possible.Originally Posted by p8ntbal4me
I have no clue what your battery life would be though.
Any pics of one mounted inside a grip frame? if you have a prototype yet.
Last edited by kcombs9; 02-04-2011 at 11:57 AM.
Your kinda talking about another can of worms here.Originally Posted by kcombs9
The problem you run into with the existing solenoid and the ULT is the return force on the plunger and sear. The ULT wont have enough "push" to reset the sear.
Now if you use a lower force solenoid and the ULT,.. it may work. But I have my concerns:
The first being that the ULT wont reset the existing solenoid because of the arm angle that the sear has already. The solenoid TECHNICALLY should pivot on the bottom to lessen the drag and friction on the plunger. That, or a cam and channel rather than a clevis and hole on the sear arm.
Its hard to describe, but this problem was brought up a few times in private conversations between some AGD personnel as well as publicly on the forum.
As I recall, the problem is the sear arm. Not the solenoid.
If you can get a smaller solenoid coil to work with the ULT, that would open alot of doors.
UPDATE
Still making changes to the circuit. We have added an electrical circuit protection in the event some of you "do it yourself'ers" decide to void the warranty and fool around with the battery polarity
This will prevent the battery voltage from being flipped and frying the board either by mistake or on purpose.
25- mrairmanOriginally Posted by p8ntbal4me
Guess that will make me # 26
Make me #27Originally Posted by Imasho
We are still moving right along with the new boards. Circuit design is complete. We are working on the ACE right now.
As for software: we are looking into licensing options. We also have developed code for testing the boards during prototyping.
We will have more information later on.
Will the ACE plug straight into the board or will it be mounted on a second board like it currently is ? Also will the board include the eye and harness or will that be separate ?
Originally Posted by ghost271
There will still be a secondary board in the top but the way it interacts with the new main board will make it completely different.
You will not be able to use the new ACE board with the old main board.
The ACE eye will be a similar type and function the same or better based on the software installed on the main board.
I haven't seen any vids of the XMod ripping, but will this new board put our mags on par with current electros/egomags ? My single day of play with my Xmag was less than stellar ( need to tune Lvl 10 more) and the magnetic return is the longest and heaviest of any electro I've used.