Looking at a Automag Pump for sale on Ebay

[birdinator]

I am new to Automags.org. My son started to get into paintball and I have been looking into purchasing a Automag Pump for myself. He likes playing speed ball and is into the electronic guns but has a love for the Automags. I thought it would be something for both my son and I to enjoy.

I found this on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/230728830650...84.m1423.l2649

What do you think for price?

Thank you for your help.

Rob

[OPBN]

There were some 3rd party pump kits made recently that would allow you to build one for considerably cheaper, but for someone new to the hobby and probably not wanting to go through the hassle of getting together the parts and building one from scratch, its not a horrible price. Original AGD pump kits IIRC, go for over $100 and you would probably have to pay $100-120 to find an Automag. Add another $40-50 for pump milling the rail and body and you're about on target.

[birdinator]

There were some 3rd party pump kits made recently that would allow you to build one for considerably cheaper, but for someone new to the hobby and probably not wanting to go through the hassle of getting together the parts and building one from scratch, its not a horrible price. Original AGD pump kits IIRC, go for over $100 and you would probably have to pay $100-120 to find an Automag. Add another $40-50 for pump milling the rail and body and you're about on target.

Does the pump action make the gun shoot more accurate or further?
I notices that some automags hold their value very well, would this be one of them?
Thanks for the responce.

[OPBN]

No, the pump simply makes it a pump versus a semi-auto. You have to pump it to cock it every time you want to shoot. Non-pump Automags are semi-auto that automatically recock themselves after every shot. All markers are field limited to shoot at under 300 feet per second, so none really should shoot farther than another.

As for holding their value, don't go by what you see on Ebay. Ebay prices are not always indicative of actual market values. Bone stock, non-upgraded Classic valved Automags tend to run in the $100-120 range and go up from there. Pricing is dependent on upgrades and rarity when it comes to Automags.

You might want to do some looking around the forums reading threads and making yourself familiar with the various types of Automags before jumping in.

[sjrtk]

This^^^

But they are fun to play with. For the price you are right about the top of retail for a classic body pump mag like that. It does look like a AGD pump kit, so that helps a little. Still it could be worth it but you are right on the cusp of over paying. But it is in your price range and fits what you want to do (easily convertible back to semi) then it could be a good buy for you.

[Justus]

Also keep in mind that eBay takes a 10% fee on sales, on top of the PayPal fees (which eBay owns). I always expect paintball gear sales on eBay to be inflated about 13% or so due to that, compared to what you can buy on the forums.

This doesn't apply to new gear from an eBay store, though, since high volume sellers will eat the 13% fees in order to get the sales.

[birdinator]

I found a 68 classic local to me and from what I understand it comes with the older, thicker style 12 inch Dye Precision Barrel for $100 and. It has a matching ser:CF64983 on the back part of the gun.

I tried it out and it works great. I ran through two gravity feed hoppers full of paint and the only issues I did notice is that with two hoppers worth of paint it chopped 2-3 balls. Once or twice, it also lobbed out two ball. But it shot straight when the barrel was clean.

[snoopay700]

Sounds like the barrel is in good condition then. The chopping and double feeding can either be attributed to the nubbin (detent in the barrel) or the gun not cycling completely. I'd have to see it to say which.

[birdinator]

Thank you for the help. I think I am going to purchase the local gun for $100 and enjoy it.
You have any advice on verbage when searching the forums for good upgrades for the 68 classic?

[sjrtk]

You have any advice on verbage when searching the forums for good upgrades for the 68 classic?

Yes.

Twist lock barrel.
Level 10 bolt. (look for a complete kit.)
Intelliframe or benchmark if you want a double trigger.
Y frame for something different.

But other than that there really is a very limited market out there due to the after market mag parts usually being worse than the factory ones.

You can switch to a minimag body with no modifications other than switching it out. A ULE body will require you to remove the twist lock pin and switch to Autococker threaded barrels. Your best bet would really be just play with it and enjoy it. Mabey put a level 10 bolt kit in and have fun with it. You can start to upgrade it but you will quickly realize you now have 2 mags.

[snoopay700]

But other than that there really is a very limited market out there due to the after market mag parts usually being worse than the factory ones.

I would beg to differ, aside from the benchmark frames (which lightens the trigger pull while making it longer) and the ANS venturi bolts (or any aftermarket bolt for that matter) the after market parts tend to be really good, but also fairly expensive. The customization/upgrading of mags is probably higher than any other marker out there, you just have to be willing to put up the money.

[birdinator]

Just to get my info straigth, would this be the Level 10 kit?
I found it on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Airgun-Designs-Automag-Level-Bolt/dp/B0000B3A6M

[snoopay700]

Just to get my info straigth, would this be the Level 10 kit?
I found it on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Airgun-Designs.../dp/B0000B3A6M

Yes, but you'd be overpaying for it there.

http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=244&categoryID=9

http://www.actionvillage.com/paintba...rbolt-kit.html

Actionvillage is cheaper, and they normally have cheaper shipping.

[birdinator]

Yes, but you'd be overpaying for it there.

http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=244&categoryID=9

http://www.actionvillage.com/paintba...rbolt-kit.html

Actionvillage is cheaper, and they normally have cheaper shipping.

Thanks again!

Once I pickup the gun, I will post up some Pictures.

[snoopay700]

Sure thing. Buying directly from AGD can be a bit more expensive, so if i need a rebuild kit i'll tend to buy from actionvillage if it's in stock, it's still from AGD, just not as expensive.