Looking at a Automag Pump for sale on Ebay

[DeuceSV]

All markers are field limited to shoot at under 300 feet per second, so none really should shoot farther than another.

Autocockersshootfurther

[OPBN]

Autocockersshootfurther

Of course, it's why I left it vague.

[snoopay700]

Autocockersshootfurther

Yeah, that flatline cocker was just unfair. Increased range on two accounts!

[birdinator]

I found this on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/230728830650...84.m1423.l2649

What do you think for price?

Thank you for your help.

Rob

I got this pump Mag. The auction ended with no sale. I worked a deal of $280 shipped. (down from $325) I just got it in my hand today. It is nice, not perfect, looks like it has been used with some minor scuffs and one little ding on the chrome body. After a few pumps, the trigger goes semi-auto, I do not have to pump it to shoot. I came with 2 extra wave rings. I think that might be the problem so I will try to install that first. Also the safty on/off pin on the trigger handle is missing. Is that something I can order?

Thanks for the help.

[OPBN]

Could be the wave spring, but it could also be that the bolt spring needs to be trimmed. Try the wave springs if that doesnt do it, start trimming the bolt spring. It should be shorter than the tip of the bolt. With that said, there is a chance that once you get the bolt short enough that it does not recock itself, you may get a leak from the bolt. If this is the case you will have to buy a new set of bolt carriers to get it to stop.

Just so you know, the body is not chrome, it is polished stainless. depending on the ding it may be able to be sanded and polished back out.

The frame looks to be a stock carbon fiber frame. If this is the case, you should be able to get a replacement safety from either AGD directly or Tunamart may have them as well. You can also usually find CF frames in the BST threads for under $20 complete.

[birdinator]

Could be the wave spring, but it could also be that the bolt spring needs to be trimmed. Try the wave springs if that doesnt do it, start trimming the bolt spring. It should be shorter than the tip of the bolt. With that said, there is a chance that once you get the bolt short enough that it does not recock itself, you may get a leak from the bolt. If this is the case you will have to buy a new set of bolt carriers to get it to stop.

Just so you know, the body is not chrome, it is polished stainless. depending on the ding it may be able to be sanded and polished back out.

The frame looks to be a stock carbon fiber frame. If this is the case, you should be able to get a replacement safety from either AGD directly or Tunamart may have them as well. You can also usually find CF frames in the BST threads for under $20 complete.

Thank you for the input. I am really loving these Automag. I also did buy the 68 classic for $100. It shoot perfect. The greatest things I hear at the field is "Wow...what is that?!" and after a games, I hear "I think the guy with the Automag got me out!" I want to point out about myself...One, I got hit off brake and never got a chance to get anyonr out...and two...I suck at aiming, but I am learning. It is just funny the responce you get with these guns.

Another questions, 68 classic/RT/Tac One...what shoots more accurate? Do they all shoot the same given if they all had the same bolt/air valve and barrel?

[Ando]

You just need to trim the main bolt spring down. Cut 1/8 inch off at a time and recheck. Every mag is going to be different due to the strength of the spring. You want it short enough (weak) so it doesn't cock the marker. If you go too much you'll have a very hard time cocking it when you pull back on the pump arm.

[OPBN]

You just need to trim the main bolt spring down. Cut 1/8 inch off at a time and recheck. Every mag is going to be different due to the strength of the spring. You want it short enough (weak) so it doesn't cock the marker. If you go too much you'll have a very hard time cocking it when you pull back on the pump arm.

Why is that? Is it because the spring isnt pushing on the bolt as much? Mine recocks fairly easily, but I have heard people saying they could recock theirs with one finger. I had to trim mine fairly short to get mine not to go semi.

Not meaning to hijack your thread Bird, but figured it was good knowledge for both of us.

[Spider-TW]

Why is that? Is it because the spring isnt pushing on the bolt as much? Mine recocks fairly easily, but I have heard people saying they could recock theirs with one finger. I had to trim mine fairly short to get mine not to go semi.

Not meaning to hijack your thread Bird, but figured it was good knowledge for both of us.

Yeah, the bolt spring can still be pushing to help the pump stroke. Pump mags are why you save your old bolt springs. :)

[birdinator]

I just replaced the wave spring and it seems to have solved the problem.
The old wave spring along with the rubber O-ring looked beat up to me.

[Ando]

Due to the lack of force from the spring, you have to stroke it that much harder. If you properly cut the spring, the amount of force to cock the marker is almost nothing. Jerking the marker forward to back will cock it if the spring is done up right.

[OPBN]

Due to the lack of force from the spring, you have to stroke it that much harder. If you properly cut the spring, the amount of force to cock the marker is almost nothing. Jerking the marker forward to back will cock it if the spring is done up right.

Hmm. I may have to take another spring and try retrimming it. There is no way mine would even come close to recocking itself simply by shaking it back and forth.

[need4reebs]

hey birdinator, congrats on both your mags...especially the pump mag!!! also check out ANSgear.com for cheap mag parts!!!

[birdinator]

hey birdinator, congrats on both your mags...especially the pump mag!!! also check out ANSgear.com for cheap mag parts!!!

Thanks

I have one more question:

68 classic/RT/Tac One...what shoots more accurate? Do they all shoot the same given if they all had the same bolt/air valve and barrel?

[OPBN]

If you have the same bolt, valve and barrel, the only variable is the body. The body has no effect on accuracy. Actually, neither do the bolt or the valve really. Paint to barrel bore match and using HPA are your two most important aspects of accuracy. HPA typically results in better consistency which helps with accuracy in that the FPS will not be jumping willdy like CO2 can at times due to different weather conditions. Using a barrel that is closely matched to your paint will help with accuracy as well. This is done through use of a barrel system that either uses inserts like a Freak barrel system or different sized backs like a WGP Kaner barrel system.

And before you ask, no a long barrel will not help with accuracy. One of the biggest things newer players have to realize is that paintball are inherently inaccurate, especially at long ranges. Essentially you are shooting a liguid filled flexible shell projectile through a smoothbore barrel. Between manufacturing flaws (seams, dimples, etc), varying size, temperature conditions (wind, humidity etc) and other factors (dirty barrel, varying velocity, etc) your accuracy will vary. Sometimes wildly from one shot to another. Too many beginner players enter the field expecting to be able to pick a flea off a dogs rear at 200 yards, and it just isnt possible.