AO Community Project: Valve Number Registration

[Justus]

Sure! It is really up to you guys, if you want to track down X-valves, RTs, etc feel free to populate the spreadsheet. I went ahead and created a "Xvalve" tab. I'm not sure how we will populate the information since the mag has an infinite amount of combinations. Feel free to collaborate!!

I broke down the X-valve tab into the three categories I know about. First, being the valves with "RT" lasered over top of the "X", second being the valves labeled "X-Valve", and third the valves with just the "X" on them. Are there other variations that weren't one-offs?

I suppose anyone can just start putting in valve numbers at the top, and then the next person to put in a number should just insert a row above or below to continue the sequential order. Otherwise, I'm not sure of the range of serial numbers or where we should start.

Am I correct in thinking that this is a valve-registry first and foremost? Meaning, you can describe what marker the valve is currently part of, but the registry isn't for the marker, it's for the valve?

[OPBN]

I think the valve registry part is going to be tough. Even trying to keep track of standard EMags since they are so often parted. I have two Emags and both were built from parts. I can see tracking SFLs and XMags as they seem to usually be kept together, but going beyond that is going to be a PITA. And then you have some of us with valves sitting here that have had the serial numbers taken off and reanodized.

[zondo]

I think there is one started on PBL. Devilman started it IIRC... a database for everyone to have access to would be much better.

[Ando]

.. a database for everyone to have access to would be much better.

Until some A-Hole decides to delete it.

[El Zilcho]

I am sure someone here is smart enough to back it up elsewhere periodically.

[bunny5]

Justus: OPBN:zondo: That was one of the starting points for the thread. The link should be a few posts back. The problem is that the thread hasn't been updated in 4 years. It also puts Devilman as the only editor to the list.

I also edited the top line to thank Devilman for his contribution!

emcl29:

[OPBN]

So if I have an Emag with an Xvalve in it, does it go under Xvalved markers or Standard Emags? By the same token, if I have an Emag valve on a non-Emag, where does it go? (I dont currently, but used to have a couple)

[Justus]

I would think the valve type needs to control, since that's where the serial number is. For example, I have an X-valved E-Tac that I put together, which used to be a Tac One. I'd list it under the X-valve list, and make notes there saying that it's an E-Tac. I used to have an Emag valve on a classic body. I'd put that one under the Emag valve list, and make notes saying that it's a mech marker now.

That would also allow valves to be registered even though they're not currently part of a build. Just state so in the notes.

This would also allow us to expand into the Classic valves with yet another tab if anyone desired to do so.

[Justus]

Question on the X-valve list, since it's already begun to populate: Some serial numbers have a leading zero, while others do not. Is this an expression of age? For example, is VV8399 older than VV02797? There must be some confusion on this, as the sequence of serial numbers is already messed up.

Also, I was thinking the "Model" column would be what the marker is, and the "Misc Info" column would be where to explain the mods and/or upgrades. Example for my marker, the "Model" would be an E-Tac, and the "Misc info" would be custom milling, Tunablade, Xmod 1.8, etc.

[bunny5]

Do you think we should combine the list together? For example, the euro STD and SFL emags are mixed together in sequential order, but the valve numbers are still in order. The only change would be the model number.

So when AGD changed the Xmag valves to VV we could add any X-valve with the VV serial number. All in one list.

[Justus]

I like keeping X-mags separate, and using the X-valve list as a "catch-all" for all the other markers. Just need to make sure that within each list, the valve numbers are listed in sequential order.

[OPBN]

So some Xmags had VV serial number Xvalves and some had XT serial numbered Xvalves?

[bunny5]

So some Xmags had VV serial number Xvalves and some had XT serial numbered Xvalves?

Exactly. I can't remember why AGD changed it. Off to the archives!!!

[athomas]

An Emag is defined by the emag lowers. So, X-mags, SFL's, CNC, ULE, Micro, and standard Emags are all different beasts and are separate from other mags, even if the other mags have an emag, retro, or X-valve. Another category can be made for non-emags where they can be classified by valve type.

[Justus]

An Emag is defined by the emag lowers. So, X-mags, SFL's, CNC, ULE, Micro, and standard Emags are all different beasts and are separate from other mags, even if the other mags have an emag, retro, or X-valve. Another category can be made for non-emags where they can be classified by valve type.

So you think my E-Tac should go in the Emag category, even though it started off as an X-valved Tac-One Longbow before I added Emag lowers? If that was the case, then a valve could be registered once as a mech, and then would have to be moved to a different category once Emag lowers were added.

I have to disagree. I think for simplicity's sake, since the valve is the only part of the gun with a serial number, then for anything other than an X-mag or SFL we need to concentrate on registering and categorizing the valve first, and then describing what marker surrounds it second. I.E., we should have a list for Emag valves, RT-Pro valves, ReTro valves, RT-X valves, X-Valve valves, and X valves. Once the valve info is put in the database, then add the details for the rest of the marker.