I understand what you are saying, but there is a significant difference. There is no way I could have moved undetected from one tapeline to the other in speedball. I realize that we simply aren't going to agree on this. By your standard, basketball played in the woods is the same game as basketball played on hardwood. Get the angles, get the baskets, win the game.
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"because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"Comment
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? I'm not sure there is a good reason for you to act like a dink but it certainly doesn't help your case. You and I disagree. I've made the same move in speedball as well, in fact in my very first game. But I've never done it without being seen. Rather than start comparing barrel lengths I think I'll just be through with this conversation.Comment
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Baseball: Pitch ball, swing bat, hit ball, catch ball, throw ball, run to bases and home. Game is timed in innings. Players are awarded runs for points, and outs.
Rounders: Pitch ball, swing bat, hit ball, catch ball, throw ball, run to bases and home. Game is timed in innings. Players are awarded rounders for points, and outs.
Same game?
That's all we're doing in this thread.Comment
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A cricket game can last a few days though, right? Tests or something. I see highlights on sky sports news.Baseball: Pitch ball, swing bat, hit ball, catch ball, throw ball, run to bases and home. Game is timed in innings. Players are awarded runs for points, and outs.
Rounders: Pitch ball, swing bat, hit ball, catch ball, throw ball, run to bases and home. Game is timed in innings. Players are awarded rounders for points, and outs.
Same game?
That's all we're doing in this thread.Comment
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Okay hold up. I see where cockerpunk is coming from with this. In a large general basis yes they are the same game. You have a marker run off pressure, a gelatin capsule called a paintball falls into a chamber, pressure launches the paintball out and it breaks upon impact, hopefully on your target. The person notices he got hit and goes out. That is a game called paintball. They both have the same equipment and surround a general basis of ideas or a mentality but if your are a part of it then you see a huge difference and they seem almost completely different. If you participate in it then it eventually comes out to you that they are in fact not the same game and have to many different and opposite fundamentals to be viewed as the same thing. If you don't understand what I am saying then lets take it to a larger scale more real world example. Relgion. To somebody like me (Atheist, just my personal beliefs) I may see that most religions are just about the same to me, specifically the larger monotheistic ones. Christianity, Judaism, Islam. Now if I was short minded and was not raised catholic I may see them as just about the same thing, look at it from a third persons point of view as if they have no clue what they are. They all seem to worship the same god. They all seem to have similar beliefs, same morals. So aren't they all the same? How are they not? They all have the same beliefs and morals don't they?
Now that was me playing semi-stupid. Do you see where I am coming from? To somebody who does not know anything about paintball, and in my example religion. They might view them as just about the same thing and put them on the same shelf. But if you are an active participant then it is a complete different mentality. You see those differences and they mean the world to you and sometimes you cant see how you can co-exist with these other people. If you take part in one of those then eventually you see that you and this other "version" of you seem to be completely different except for the fact that you both play paintball or you both believe in a god.
Sorry if I somehow offended anybodies religion,beliefs, faith etc. Just wanted to make an understandable point. Not trying to switch the discussion to religion but I simply found it as a good example.Comment
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And really, besides India, Australia, and New Zealand, nobody really cares about the sport.Comment
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I don't know if you are selectively reading or just selectively quoting me. My point was that the entire scenario wouldn't happen if moved from the woods onto a speedball field. "But nobody plays 15 on 15 speedball" - Exactly. Unless you are going to tell me that you play 15 on 15 and break to the back tape all the time. In that case I differ to your superior experience.
This is all beside the point. You say it's a distinction without a difference. I say that there is a difference and that difference is enough to justify calling it a different game. We are not going to agree on this and I'm ok with that. I would also qualify 3 man, 5 man, and 7 man as different games. The playing experience is sufficiently different (in my opinion) to validate that.
My question is this this; why does it matter so much to you? Why do you think that we would benefit from not making the distinction? Serious question.Comment
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people don't play 15 on 15 speedball?
because how we define the paradigm of our game/sport defines the conversation and opinions about it. if we define ourselves as one game, with different fields that changes paintball on a very fundamental level vs defining ourselves as two different games with similar equipment.
it took 10 years for us to redefine a paintball gun as just a paintball gun, not a woodsball gun and a speedball gun for example."because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"Comment
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How is this on topic at all anymore? Hell, what was the topic to begin with... people who enjoyed wearing camo or what?Comment
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