Regulator Removal - Your Preferred Method?

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  • El Zilcho
    Registered User
    • Jul 2007
    • 483

    #1

    Regulator Removal - Your Preferred Method?

    So I found someone local (Maine Oxy) that will hydro tanks for about $18 each. The catch is that I need to remove the regulators 1st. I have seen a few methods using strap wrenches and vises and one using a rubber mallet. So I ask, what is the most reliable/safest way to remove a regulator from a carbon fiber tank?
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  • RehKal
    Registered User
    • Jul 2007
    • 266

    #2
    Don't put it in a vise unless you have rubber grips (that are designed to hold large pipes/bottles) on the vise. Probably the easiest is to use the strap wrench to hold the bottle. If the reg is made with areas for a wrench to be placed for removal, use it. Otherwise you'll have to remove fill nipple, gauge, etc and use a strap wrench on it as well. You may have to remove fill nipple and gauge to use the built in removal points even if it does have them. Also be aware, some places locktite regs in...

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    • OPBN
      OldPBNoob

      • Sep 2008
      • 5240

      #3
      I forget what they are called, but Sears sells magnetic rubber covers for your vice. They are good to have around actually, can't rememer how many things I jacked up before putting these on. If you have those, you can put the reg in a vice and use your hands to screw off the tank if the threads are not loctited. If they are, you may have to use a strap wrench. MAKE SURE THE TANK IS COMPLETELY EMPTY BEFORE ATTEMPTING THIS. Even a little air will make it hard to take off.

      Most hydro places only charge $5 or so to take regs off. If you are hestitant about doing it, or don't have the right tools pay someone that does to do it right.
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      • El Zilcho
        Registered User
        • Jul 2007
        • 483

        #4
        I guess my main concern is removing the burst disks, fill nipple and gauge. Anything I should know about removing these? I know they need to go back in the same location that they came from. It seems like they are robust enough to not be damaged during careful removal, but having never removed them before, I just want to make sure I am not assuming incorrectly.
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        • OPBN
          OldPBNoob

          • Sep 2008
          • 5240

          #5
          As long as the tank is completely empty, they are no different than unscrewing a nut. If you have bolts the same threads as those, you can put them in those holes for leverage as well or so that the reg doesnt move around when in the vice.
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          • The Dawg
            Registered User
            • Apr 2013
            • 50

            #6
            Step one, EMPTY THE TANK! Use an on/off asa and just don't plug the macroline in. I usually put the reg in the vice, and use a strap wrench. I don't tighten it down at all. Just enough to hold it there. I also put a towel between my tank and strap because mine's metal (rubber strap is recommended). This prevents the tank from being scratched. Then I slowly turn the empty bottle. Takes like 5 seconds, has worked for me multiple times.

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            • BTAutoMag
              AO's Problem Child
              • Oct 2001
              • 7199

              #7
              i just watched this today... interesting method...

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              • BiNumber3
                Dazed and Confused

                • Feb 2008
                • 1038

                #8
                That can probably be done with some regs, but I doubt one torque to spec or locktite'd will be that easy.
                I generally use a strap wrench on the reg portion, and thigh strength to keep the bottle steady:P (no longer have my table clamp)

                Aside from that, I also have an old bottle cradle that fits around most regs and is notched and would fit the fill nipple or gauge, with flat surfaces on the outside for a wrench

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                • RehKal
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 266

                  #9
                  It should be noted, removing your reg like the video suggests.... Is foolish. The fill nipple is not made or designed for that purpose, you can bend, damage, break or weaken it by doing this with it. And that isn't really something you want breaking when you are filling your tank...

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                  • Justus
                    Justech.us

                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1515

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BiNumber3
                    That can probably be done with some regs, but I doubt one torque to spec or locktite'd will be that easy.
                    Originally posted by RehKal
                    It should be noted, removing your reg like the video suggests.... Is foolish. The fill nipple is not made or designed for that purpose, you can bend, damage, break or weaken it by doing this with it. And that isn't really something you want breaking when you are filling your tank...
                    I agree with all this. When I saw that video I was like:

                    And I just use two strap wrenches. Small one on the reg, and large one on the bottle. Twist in opposite directions.

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                    • BTAutoMag
                      AO's Problem Child
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 7199

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Justus
                      When I saw that video I was like:
                      Ditto
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                      • El Zilcho
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 483

                        #12
                        I went to a local discount tool store and bought two strap wrenches for about $10 total. They both broke when I used them. I guess cutting corners on tooling is not a great idea
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                        • OPBN
                          OldPBNoob

                          • Sep 2008
                          • 5240

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RehKal
                          It should be noted, removing your reg like the video suggests.... Is foolish. The fill nipple is not made or designed for that purpose, you can bend, damage, break or weaken it by doing this with it. And that isn't really something you want breaking when you are filling your tank...
                          I removed the fill nipple and replaced it with a bolt once in order to get some leverage. Seemed to work well.
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                          • Justus
                            Justech.us

                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1515

                            #14
                            Originally posted by OPBN
                            I removed the fill nipple and replaced it with a bolt once in order to get some leverage. Seemed to work well.
                            That should be fine to do. In fact, I'm pretty sure Ninja regs include a "regulator removal tool" which is just a bolt that you screw into the fill nipple port or one of the burst disc ports.

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                            • BTAutoMag
                              AO's Problem Child
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 7199

                              #15
                              I just used the wood black methed with GREAT sucess

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