Aluminum Classic Valve

[Carnage reigns]

How did you come up with this #? He made no implications of even making the cap, he said "I will make the valve section and let people finish them off themselves"

That means until it gets clarified, you have to use your reg back... so take 5.8 oz of stainless, and minus 3.7 oz that an xvalve weighs (assuming it weighs the same) thats 2 oz.

I reffered to opbn as being about the only one to see real savings if he used his cap on this... my math is based on the fact XMT has not said he is making caps, at all

(The weight of the classic reg + the difference of weights of classic and aluminum valve bodies without bolts) - the weight of a reg that screws into the asa.

[blackdeath1k]

And I was thinking the 7000 series aluminum was more expensive than that black

I was thinking for the 3 inch chunk to do just the front half. And it may be. Never priced solid bar in the stuff. The whole point of that was a blanket. Material is expensive! Let alone the guys development time. And production time. I would venture to say making a mag trigger frame is easier work than the valve. Less spec you have to work with.

[Cokrkilr]

(The weight of the classic reg + the difference of weights of classic and aluminum valve bodies without bolts) - the weight of a reg that screws into the asa.

WHAT? this is valve only.... because you have ZERO confirmation of ANY caps being made... that really made no sense, its only the difference between a loaded valve front and a loaded valve front, which opbn gave values for... wow...

[OPBN]

I'm gonna say about 7oz when it's all said and done vs. a classic valve. I think this idea is golden.

I actually sat and swapped around parts. For MY application, it is only a weight savings of 3 ozs or so. For anyone else wanting to do a similiar capped valve, external reg setup it is a total saving of about 9.1oz. So just over 1/2 a pound*.

*Based on the setup I have pictured earlier -3 ozs vs removing the reg and adding a foregrip and putting a full SS Classic valve on the marker.

[Cokrkilr]

I was thinking for the 3 inch chunk to do just the front half. And it may be. Never priced solid bar in the stuff. The whole point of that was a blanket. Material is expensive! Let alone the guys development time. And production time. I would venture to say making a mag trigger frame is easier work than the valve. Less spec you have to work with.

I did a tiny search, most online suppliers didnt even carry al higher than 6160- t6

[OPBN]

WHAT? this is valve only.... because you have ZERO confirmation of ANY caps being made... that really made no sense, its only the difference between a loaded valve front and a loaded valve front, which opbn gave values for... wow...

Caps are very easilly made. I have already contacted DM to see if he is up to making a run. If not, I am willing to send one of my caps to someone to replicate. Or it would be very easy for someone to come up with one.

[Cokrkilr]

Caps are very easilly made. I have already contacted DM to see if he is up to making a run. If not, I am willing to send one of my caps to someone to replicate. Or it would be very easy for someone to come up with one.

Well if you get some made, Ill take a cap :)

Im not trying to be a dick or argue a bunch btw, people are just assuming information without facts from XMT, which is silly

[GoatBoy]

FWIW:






If you commission another run of caps, please put a 1/8 NPT hole on the back for a gauge.

[Carnage reigns]

WHAT? this is valve only.... because you have ZERO confirmation of ANY caps being made... that really made no sense, its only the difference between a loaded valve front and a loaded valve front, which opbn gave values for... wow...

Deus Machina made caps so the can be found. And no need for the caps. I read whole sentences.

[OPBN]

Actually, I am wondering if for people wanting to use it in a capped setup if there isn't a cheaper way to machine this without having to make a "cap"? Any input Jay?

[Cokrkilr]

Once again.... I said this when XMT said "they make aluminum regs so I dont need to make them, people can find them all over for cheap". ok, where? how long do I wait for a used one... does that make sense?

You are saying the exact same thing about reg caps... They "were" made, in the past. People now own those caps, and probably use and wont sell them... but they are around, so find me a handful, or 50 to sell with these...

This whole threads been built around assumptions

[OPBN]

If you commission another run of caps, please put a 1/8 NPT hole on the back for a gauge.

You mean like this:

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[Cokrkilr]

Can the caps be made smooth? Basically like there is no transition from the valve to the cap, I like the gauge look too.

[blackdeath1k]

You mean like this:

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Now I like that.

[OPBN]

Can the caps be made smooth? Like basically like there is no transition from the valve to the cap, I like the gauge look too.

Yes, Check my earlier pic.