hardline macrolines, how do you get them or who makes installs them?

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  • djinnform
    Rental Hunter

    • Mar 2009
    • 651

    #1

    hardline macrolines, how do you get them or who makes installs them?

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  • Nobody
    Nobody's Perfect
    • Oct 2001
    • 3384

    #2
    some people have used the Phantom hardline from CCI(from the valve to a vert). i have a custom set of SS hardline that Doc Nickle made on a custom cocker. i have heard that you can use breakline, but i don't know the fittings used to attach it to the gun.

    though the hardline looks great; you have the choice of easy to use/easy to find and replace marcoline, easy to use/easy to find SS braided hose, or the hardline. that's the biggest thing about it and why its not used more often.

    the one thing with the hardline is that you have to take it off the gun in order. you can't drop the valve in the field, if you need to clean the bolt off if it gets covered in paint,

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    • Levi
      Registered User
      • Mar 2013
      • 249

      #3
      Are you talking about the rigid stainless airline like the upper line in this pic?


      <a href="http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/SidedraftDats/media/Automags/ClassicRTLeft_zpsf3453b06.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s588/SidedraftDats/Automags/ClassicRTLeft_zpsf3453b06.jpg" border="0" alt="Classic RT Before Upgrades (L) photo ClassicRTLeft_zpsf3453b06.jpg"/></a>

      If so; then you can get the compression fittings from McMaster Carr

      Part # 8239k73 For a 90 deg fitting
      or
      Part# 8239K13 For a straight fitting

      The proper fittings plus a piece of 3/16" Stainless tubing and you're set to make your own.

      You'll want to have a tubing cutter too, but those are available cheaply at most any hardware store.

      There is another way to do hardlines, using the A/N type flare fittings. That requires a special flare tool though, and those are kinda spendy.

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      • C_losjoker
        Puro Tico
        • May 2008
        • 1121

        #4
        someone correct me if I am wrong, but I thought all hardlines have to be flared for them to seal???

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        • athomas
          Of course it works-its AGD
          • Jan 2002
          • 8039

          #5
          The flared end helps hold the line in place in the fitting in high pressure situations. Hardlines don't need to be flared to seal, though. As long as there is a sealing edge, it will hold air. Often that edge is an oring and compression fitting.
          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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          • djinnform
            Rental Hunter

            • Mar 2009
            • 651

            #6
            Originally posted by Levi
            Are you talking about the rigid stainless airline like the upper line in this pic?


            <a href="http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/SidedraftDats/media/Automags/ClassicRTLeft_zpsf3453b06.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s588/SidedraftDats/Automags/ClassicRTLeft_zpsf3453b06.jpg" border="0" alt="Classic RT Before Upgrades (L) photo ClassicRTLeft_zpsf3453b06.jpg"/></a>

            If so; then you can get the compression fittings from McMaster Carr

            Part # 8239k73 For a 90 deg fitting
            or
            Part# 8239K13 For a straight fitting

            The proper fittings plus a piece of 3/16" Stainless tubing and you're set to make your own.

            You'll want to have a tubing cutter too, but those are available cheaply at most any hardware store.

            There is another way to do hardlines, using the A/N type flare fittings. That requires a special flare tool though, and those are kinda spendy.

            I got the fittings, but which tubing is it? They have so many. 89995k261 ? Thank you for the detailed info.
            Last edited by djinnform; 06-17-2013, 08:39 AM.

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            • Levi
              Registered User
              • Mar 2013
              • 249

              #7
              Originally posted by djinnform
              I got the fittings, but which tubing is it? They have so many. 89995k261 ? Thank you for the detailed info.
              When I ordered from them I wasn't sure which wall thickness tubing to use so I ordered a couple different ones.
              89785K299 is 0.020" wall thickness for an id of 0.148"
              89785K217 is 0.028" wall thickness for an id of 0.132"

              I don't remember which one I ended up using but I can look when I get home this evening and post it up here.

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              • Levi
                Registered User
                • Mar 2013
                • 249

                #8
                Just checked and the one I used was the .028 wall (89785K217).

                I popped the hardline loose on the RT pictured above and measured it just to be sure. According to my calipers it measures the same as the tubing I used... so if it was good enough for AGD to send it out on their markers, its good enough to plumb up my gear. Imho

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                • C_losjoker
                  Puro Tico
                  • May 2008
                  • 1121

                  #9
                  so I was looking on McMaster and noticed that they have aluminum 6061 tubing, anyone know if that can be used and which one/thickness to get? and what fittings for it? I was looking for both so I can anodizing with marker.

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                  • blackdeath1k
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 2436

                    #10
                    Check pressure ratings. And when in doubt. Call. We use McMaster at work all the time. Always great to deal with.

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                    • djinnform
                      Rental Hunter

                      • Mar 2009
                      • 651

                      #11
                      I told the girl what I was using it for, and she chose the .35 wall for me. Probably worried I would blow myself up. They tell you the PSI rating next to the part number.

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                      • Frizzle Fry
                        AO Micromag Guy
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 3280

                        #12
                        I'd pick some up off ya if it's cheap, how many feed did you get?

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                        • splat15k
                          The Beast from the East

                          • Oct 2001
                          • 1227

                          #13


                          :)
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                          • need4reebs
                            OutKasT 4 Sho!!!

                            • Feb 2011
                            • 1441

                            #14
                            Originally posted by splat15k


                            :)
                            Whoo Whee!! DooD thats AweSome BrothA!!!!
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                            • splat15k
                              The Beast from the East

                              • Oct 2001
                              • 1227

                              #15
                              Originally posted by need4reebs
                              Whoo Whee!! DooD thats AweSome BrothA!!!!
                              Thanks man!

                              For those interested, I used McMaster 89965K442
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