I've just swapped a ULT X-valve for an RT Pro on my own Egomag
Was surprised how much I had to increase LP input to get it to trip the RT on/off
I've just swapped a ULT X-valve for an RT Pro on my own Egomag
Was surprised how much I had to increase LP input to get it to trip the RT on/off
Before I go off buying a ULT I just want to make sure that's not what I already have. I'm really having trouble tripping my sear and I'm hoping a ULT will do the trick. Here is a pic of what is currently in my valve.
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this is not a ULT.
That looks like a regular solid body RT Pro or X valve on off
This is a stripped down ULT on off
More info here...
http://www.automagsuk.com/classicandrt.html
The ULT did the trick. After many months of searching for pieces and trial and error building I finished the gun and it works flawless. Thanks for this thread Hill!
do u still think the said noid and reg is the best way to go? im reading this i want to do my best to not break anything should i get the SMC SY113A-SG-PM3.? air solider is out of them can i get them somewhere else? could i use the ego noid on air solider and would the be better? running a ego mag will the noid break after time or will the bigger one last?anything else to help?
Last edited by RT Lover; 01-24-2013 at 05:56 PM. Reason: more info
Bigger solenoids won't fit inside the frame - that's why the SMC one is popular
You could use a bigger noid if you install it somewhere else such as a hollowed out forgrip
RS components sell the SMC solenoid too - sourced a couple from them in Europe
Actually the SMC SY series noid will fit and handles more pressure. SMC noid SY113A-SH-PM3 it will fit in the etek frames easier than a star frame but will fit in both while it will bulge the grip a bit. These noids don't make for the cleanest install but are way stronger.
Fire power my friends.
i have one of the noids from the #3 post barnd new never used.
let me know if that is what you are looking for.
I'm interested in that SMC noid if you'll ship to UK?
Hi Hills, would this alternative SMC noid work ok?
Seems to have a high flow rate, slightly higher max pressure and can operate up to 20 cps http://www.airsoldier.com/mm5/mercha...Code=SOLENOIDS
***Edit***
I've realised it's the same unit - just the flying lead length is shorter at 300mm
Last edited by GEE TEE; 01-25-2013 at 09:05 PM.
well i dont want the grips to bulge out, what is the best choice and will it last or will i be replacing noids all the time? i want to build it and not have to worry about the noid can at any time, i have a micro rock i will b using.
We have built at least 6 EP mag hybrids over here using the SMC micro noid. All performed really well and I'm still shooting my Egomag and Creedmag regularly. We hit 17bps on the Creed hybrid but that's probably pushing your luck to be honest. My Egomag hit 15bps on a similar set-up using a micro rock. I think bothe have had at least 5 cases each through them without problems. THe LPR spiking may be an issue - as Hills mentioned this can damage them as they are only rated to 75psi. I use a ULT trigger kit on mine to reduce the pressure needed. It makes a big difference to how much you need to crank the LP up compared to the RT on/off, which should help long term reliability.
dude.... i would be just fine with what u have in the video lol... im not chasing super speed (yet lol) i just want to know that im ok with the noid and its not a time bomb.... i dont want to play a few times and then have to put a new noid in and when u say 5 cases is that all u can get? with my micro rock u think thats good enough... if anything i can get a different one but need the ult for sure i see.. hhhmmm if i would get a few years on it a noid that would be cool. now how can i stop from getting the air spikes? on/ off and slowly turn on the air? and if i keep it at 15 bps and not go over will the noid last a lot longer and the possibly of it breaking go way down? i thought the ego mag mod was popular but i really havent seen any talking about noids
i have a booyaah piranha and it rips lol
thanks man!
They have both shot 5+ cases each so far without any problems. I've Run an RTPro valve on the egomag for a while with stock on/off, and it took a lot more pressure to cycle the ram. The ULT is the way to go as it'll make the noid work at less pressure. I'm going to give the SMY noid that Hills mentioned a go as they are rated to higher pressure and flow more air. Creed mag maxed out at 17bps and started to short stroke (chuff) if we went any higher, but that feeds air to noid via a modified LP reg in Creed foregrip. I only shoot this at 10-12 bps on walkons anyway due to site rules. As for spiking... not sure if backing the LP reg out to shut of flow before airing up would help?
This is solenoid used in all my EP builds so far including Creedmag. It's only 21mm long x 11.5mm deep x 7mm thick, and it fitted in the frame no problem
http://www.airsoldier.com/mm5/mercha...Code=SOLENOIDS
This is the Ego 5/6 frame that's used on the majority of Egomag conversions
http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/a...jMwNi5qcGc.jpg
This is the Ego 5/6 star frame with built in snatch grip and dovetail
http://www.compulsivepaintball.com/m...rameDustBk.jpg
Etek frame
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4...1007021432.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/242...1007021432.jpg
and Etek star frame
http://www.compulsivepaintball.com/m..._starframe.jpg
All of which I've seen used on EP conversions and plenty of others can be made to work
Last edited by GEE TEE; 01-26-2013 at 06:58 PM.
etek frame, i like it... i guess i could switch it to pneu if i dont like it or if it blows noids, but since i would have the bps tuned under 15 as much as we know i should b fine?
Wat noid did u use?
The one from airsoldier, SMC S070C-SDG-32. It's the same one that Renie uses too in his EP builds. Reason for the shiny is clear heatshrink tubing. Did you get a frame yet? If not, I have an extra Ego 6 Dark frame I was going to list in the sales threads.
-Brandon
I have a set up just need to mill for thr ram and need a noid and lpr.... worried that I will blow thru noids hill had posted its easy to do? Is a dremmel best to use to mill the inside the frame for the ram... I want it to look good!
I used a dremel with carbide burr bits and found it to work very well on the soft aluminum and the ram. You want slow speeds. At some point you'll have to shave the ram to fit.
One issue I had is drilling and tapping the bottom of the ram. You need to drill the hole very close to the edge or you'll have a useless ram. here's the picture of one I messed up.
can a Excal/Intimidator/ Shocker Mac 43 Solenoid AKA- Mac 43 Solenoids work on a ego mag? Solenoid Info:
4 -way mac solenoid 43A-AAA-RFEJ-0BL 5volts 4.7watts 120psi max m3 tapped 6in tinned leads
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Has anyone used this noid yet? http://www.airsoldier.com/mm5/mercha...Code=SOLENOIDS