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    classic valve - how to lighten the trigger pull?

    Is there any way to lighten the trigger pull on a classic valve? Are they any options with the ON\OFF? What does that "Reactor" ON\OFF do?

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    Put a RT on/off in it or ULT it lightens the trigger significantly

    Lukes trigger/sear mod as well... highly underrated/under-advertised

    Reactor on/off is not as good as the RT on/off

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    if you use a ult you will probably run into issues with short stroking. i prefer the rt on/off.

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    rukh is half right

    captian pinky is correct

    An RT on/off with really lighten the trigger pull and it'll breathe new light into your mag

    A ULT will lighten it alot but you run the risk of starving your mag for air

    Luke's sear mod will make your trigger pull heavier

    dont use non AGD products in your valve. AGD spent money to develop things the actually work in your mag

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    Quote Originally Posted by captian pinky View Post
    if you use a ult you will probably run into issues with short stroking. i prefer the rt on/off.
    the RT ON\OFF works in a Classic Valve?

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    yes but will not allow you to rt. i also think you have to remove the bottom orings to make it fit but i forget.

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    nope, pops right in

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    you can even keep the classic orings in the top of the on/off as they are the exact same

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    This is actually pretty awesome information I did not know any of this, now im thinking about putting a r/t on off in a Level 7.

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    you can even lighten it further by using a drill on certain parts... I wont go into that

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTAutoMag View Post
    you can even lighten it further by using a drill on certain parts... I wont go into that
    I'm not about to do this, but I would like to hear the theory/technical explanation how it is done.

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    it has to do with porting the rt on off in a certain way to all ow air to flow past the pin without making it want to rt

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    Get a stronger finger? You may look into some sort of a prosthetic, there has been significant advances in digital replacement in recent years.

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    its not about stronger anything. make any gun easier to use and your stamina and performance increases. why exert more then you have to

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEEFYDAN View Post
    Get a stronger finger? You may look into some sort of a prosthetic, there has been significant advances in digital replacement in recent years.
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    it is like the old saying goes "work smarter, not harder" no need to exert more force than required

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    Has anyone ever designed a pneumatic-assisted finger? Maybe we have all been approaching this from the wrong direction all of these years. May be something to look into

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    no, but a pnuemag is close enough

    and a pneumatic-assisted finger is lightening the trigger pull... checkmate

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTAutoMag View Post
    nope, pops right in. you can even keep the classic orings in the top of the on/off as they are the exact same
    i can confirm; pops right in and lightens the trigger pull. it feels like it's about 50% lighter.

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    It's what I did on my old pump Mag. I would describe the trigger as lighter and crisper, definitely not as "mushy" as the Classic On/Off. I have 2 for sale!

    https://www.automags.org/forums/showt...-Valve-On-Offs
    Steve Shuey , Team Crimson Reign

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    Im pretty sure a pneumatic-assisted finger would not lighten the trigger pull. Yeah the finger would have to work less, But the actual force needed to actuate the trigger would be the same. Though I commend the use of the Bulle****e Gambit (Type 2). Well played, you rarely see that in chess anymore.

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    you can always get a double trigger, leverage would make the trigger easier to pull.

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    If you're going to use a RT on/off and use CO2, then replace the #6 urethane o-rings with the original teflon o-rings.

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    Didn't some of the old electronic, aftermarket frames for MAGS come with a custom ON\OFF? I thought I saw one once?

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    yea, I have one in front of me right now... BROKEN IN HALF!

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    yes, the Centerflag frames did.

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    and booyaah

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    RT on/off with a .740 pin. That is the EXACT pin that is in the Centerflag on/offs and works great in classic mags and as a substitute if you want to put a hyperframe on your classic as well.

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    really? this is good info for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTAutoMag View Post
    really? this is good info for me
    Im a fountain of information. Not just eye candy.

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