Offical LVL10, Reports from the Field Thread

[RiceRocket]

Once in a while...

-How long it took you to get it installed and what your configuration was to get it working properly

This part was done for me. I just received a Lvl 10 kit to install into another Emag and will report results later.

-The type of gun you're using it on

Shocktech SFL Emag with HALO B

-Efficiency

Roughly 580 effective shots from a 45/4500 PMI Pure Energy screw-in

-Number of breaks/chops and type of paint used

0/0 RPS Marbs Advantage, RPS Evil pink

-Any problems you encountered

none

-Other general comments

Once in a while, there comes a product that revolutionizes the way the game is played. Level 10 is definitely the latest.

As one of the beta testers from the beginning of the Level 10 design, I experienced everything - good and bad. The Level 10 is the culmination of AGD's approach to creating the perfect marker. On one test run, two weeks prior to the release of the Level 10's to AO, I played 14 consecutive 10-man games without a single barrel break or chop while shooting some of the most fragile paint on the market - RPS Evil. Tournament play can present some of the most demanding situations in the way you have to shoot your gun. I never had an instance that it failed to shoot when I needed it most. Towards the end of practice I was able to shoot even when the battey had finally drained as well.

I believe even the most fickle of gun owners will try and stay with an AGD marker with this modification in it.

[Kaiser Bob]

-How long it took you to get it installed and what your configuration was to get it working properly

From the second i tore open the box to where it was installed it took about 5 minutes. Took a time out to bring my gun to the pro shop so id have a unlimited source of air to work with. From that time to when i found the best combination was another 10 minutes. Right now im running 0 carrier, 2 shims, and the longest spring although i had 1.5 in there and it worked fine as well.

-The type of gun you're using it on

Emag

-Efficiency

Seems about the same.

-Number of breaks/chops and type of paint used

0/0 about 350 balls using month old worr field paint that had been in my car and then sitting around in my pods at 20 bps. Then the pro shop guy used about 200 TC and fanned in semi.

-Any problems you encountered

Not really a problem, but with the smallest carrier i notice i have to jack the pressure up farther then my tank will let me to get 20bps F/A. However it will do 14-16 and whatever i can walk it just fine. I noticed once when i had it sitting for a couple minutes, it froze up, but once i degassed and reconnected it was fine. Small price to pay for using the tightest carrier.

-Other general comments

This thing is amazing! I did the finger thing, the tape on the ball thing with the bolt hitting the seam, and 20 bps with a warp and Halo-A and it didnt show any signs of breaking! Im definitely a satisfied customer!

[Cypres0099]

Took me about an hour to install because I had to rig up some stuff do I could quickly disconnect my Flatline.

Gun

I'm using an Emag.

Efficiency
Efficiency was near what it was before, maybe a little less.

Paint stuff

I had one chop when I put a viewloader 200 on my warp. It was very sticky and humid outside. So I had 1/0 out of 700 of the Brittlest (sp?)most unconsistant paint I could get my hands on. That's right, Brass Eagle. The bounce test that I did was 0,0,2,2,9,9


Problems

The way I had it would chop a ball every now and then when doing the tape thing with a paintball. One would take 30 pinces and the next would only take 2 or something like that. I would really like to know how to get this thing set as low as possible.


Comments

I love how little kick there is. I think it would be great if you could buy or if it came with a little "oring carrier carrier" that would be nice.

[Ariestsheft]

-How long it took you to get it installed and what your configuration was to get it working properly

Approximatly 10 minutes

-The type of gun you're using it on

.68 Automag Classic

-Efficiency

Un-noticable change

-Number of breaks/chops and type of paint used

0, 3 month old Diablo Blaze (1-4 bounce)

-Any problems you encountered


N/A

-Other general comments


I just put 140 rounds thru the ole' mag with absolutly no problems. I purposely tried to make the gun chop, it was impossible. The paint was 3-month old Diablo Blaze, it was quite brittle. The lvl 10 perfermed FLAWLESSLY! This has to be the best $65 I've ever spent on paintball. My friend just offered me $100 for it. But, its all mine :) .

[clanger]

How long it took you to get it installed and what your configuration was to get it working properly

First try, around 25 minutes with medium spring. It didn't work properly with this setup though. When I played on it I couldn't shoot more then 270 and it would then drop off lower unless I upped the velocity. It would continue to drop. I readjusted it now, hopefully its all better.

The type of gun you're using it on

Retro Automag

-Number of breaks/chops and type of paint used

Didn't chop on my first setup even though I had barrel breaks. That low price worr paint stinks =(.

Any problems you encountered

I don't know if it will shoot properly until I get the gun checked out tommorow at the chrono and then onto the field.

[CleenSweep]

-How long it took you to get it installed and what your configuration was to get it working properly
It took me 20min. to setup and an hour or so to test and make changes. I'm currently using 1.5 carrier, middle spring, and one shim.

-The type of gun you're using it on
Retro minimag w/warp and itelliframe setup, dye aluminum barrel and nitroduck tuffskin 4500

-Efficiency
Little less than before but also had problems with the gun not cycling but the tank had plenty of pressure. I'll address this in other problems

-Number of breaks/chops and type of paint used
500 shots, 0 breaks, 0 chops (and I really tried)

-Any problems you encountered
With the new setup the marker will loose pressure and not fire with over 1000psi (1100 to be exact) when I switched springs to the shortest I got maybe 15 more shots out of it and then it would not fire a ball.

-Other general comments
I'm going to do a search and try to find out why it quits cycling at 1000psi.

[BJ7]

level 10

i have clumsy angel fingers incapable of operating any mag more advanced than a classic mag with single trigger, and i was unable to chop any paint. when i test fired panzerr's level 10 RT last weekend the first 50 to 75 rounds run down it were 5 month old proball platinum which had been sitting in the hopper of one of my markers for a month. i was very impressed with the level 10

[animal]

-How long it took you to get it installed and what your configuration was to get it working properly

Took me a a day and a half to finally get it working.... I ran out of air. It was probably about 40 minutes of actual work tho. I ended up going back to a #2 carrier and oiling the heck out of it to stop the leak that occured. I had bolt stick with a 1.5 carrier. I'm using the middle spring and 2 shims.

-The type of gun you're using it on

Tequila Fade Emag

-Efficiency

I topped it off after every game so I'm not quite sure. Seemed the same tho.

-Number of breaks/chops and type of paint used

I held a ball in front of the bolt to facilitate a chop, I got 5 bounces and then a break... not really a chop, it just broke the ball. It's actually kinda nice to have a breech break that you don't fire after. Easier to clean :) When I wasn't purposely trying to chop with it, I broke no balls at all. New and old diablo blaze.

-Any problems you encountered

The bolt stick was cured by going back to a #2 carrier. The only other problem I noticed was when I leaned my barrel on something, I'd get a slight leak. I just oiled the crap out of it again and it was fine.

-Other general comments

With a few understandable hiccups in setting it up, it was an awesome upgrade. It even SOUNDS cooler when u fire :)

[Jay Dever]

level 10

I shot a *EDIT* Please do not cuss here. I realize you are a new member, so this is just a warning. Army load of paint threw it today it broke one ball at the end of the barrel. I even use some old paint ive had in tubes from las vegas (hellfire) and it did well so far so good

[LittMag]

I broke one!

-How long it took you to get it installed and what your configuration was to get it working properly

about 1 hr
using 1.5 carrierand 3 shims

-The type of gun you're using it on

Std feed Automag w/ CO2

-Efficiency

About the same

-Number of breaks/chops and type of paint used

1 break when I was trying to dupicate the video where Tom held the ball 1/2 way in the breach. It took 6 hits to break the ball
**edit** the ball didn't explode like a normal chop, it just sorta got sliced open and some paint oozed out... a couple of dry shots cleaned it all out.

500 rounds of marbs no breaks

-Any problems you encountered

Just took a bit of time messing around with the carriers.

-Other general comments

It worked like a charm. As I stated above, it took a bit of time to chop. I spent some time dropping a single ball into the feed tube and catching it with the bolt. Didn't chop at all. I heard to bolt go, stall and drop the ball back in. THANKS to Tom and all the people at AGD!

[Doobie]

[WickeDKlowN]

my lvl10 came in not too long ago, and i installed ti but havnt got the chance to test it(I will edit this post when i do) but i noticed when i am pulling the bolt out, about halfway up, i can feel it catch on something. Is this normal, or did i do something wrong?

[lukewmtdew]

-How long it took you to get it installed and what your configuration was to get it working properly

it took me about probably half an hour to guess on the right carrier i think i m using the 1.5 carrier and one shim also i have an original bolt spring in it

-The type of gun you're using it on

automag with serial number of 00147

-Efficiency

we didnt really think about that we got about 600 shots out of a tank that had only 2500 psi in it it was a 48ci tank

-Number of breaks/chops and type of paint used

uuuhhhhh *drools* ZERO breaks with using a tough nelsplat paint bought at mills fleet farm when i bounce tested the paint at 6 ft i was gettin like more than 10 bounces so i was like screw this and stopped so i dont know how brittle the paint was i did the electrical tape trick and it didnt chop

-Any problems you encountered

guessing what carrier to use was hard because a couple of the other ones would just make it leak out the barrel or if i screwed in the velocity untill i could fire it and it would leak out the velocity screw so i dont know what was up there

-Other general comments

when i put back in my normal bolt and power tube setup it would fire twice when i pulled the trigger once i dont knwo what that means

i also dont have a chronograph so i just guessed at the velocity so i dont knwo whatever about that

[Scootyd]

Type of gun: micromag with smartmag valve

time to install initially: 1 hour (had a time choosing the right carrier until I found some new posts.)

time to tune: 3 days and it's still not right

shots / breaks: 2000 / 1 in the barrel (i loved it)

setup: carrier 1.5, no shims, stock spring

problems: even with my shortest spring, I have to turn the velocity up to the point that it vents intermittently and getting down to 250fps is impossible. 285 fps is almost two full turns out when I fall back to the original parts. If I turn the regulator down to the point of not venting, the valve won't cycle. I played a couple of hours (5) with it venting lightly and loved it. The trade off, reliable chopper or unreliable non chopper.


Any suggestions are welcome, just p.m. me.

[AGD]

Call our tech line we probably have to send you a new reg piston.

AGD