**Official Policy for Euro X-Mags**

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  • John Sosta, AGD Europe
    Registered User
    • May 2001
    • 136

    #31
    If you bought an X-Mag from the AGD US Booth at IAO, WC or any other US tournament, then it will be a US version.
    AGD US have sold a small number of X-Mags pre Dec 9th.
    However, if you bought the X-Mag from a player, then you would need to check the ACE, as it could be a Euro version that found it's way over there. You can also contact either AGD US or AGDE to check the serial number.

    We're still receiving calls from customers who don't understand what the difference was between Euro & US X-Mags
    pre Dec 9th. The main difference is the ACE. When we developed Version 1 of the ACE over here, we initially used a wiring loom. The Ver 1 ACE works the same as the Ver 2 circuit board ACE, but we (AGD US & AGDE) decided to change to the circuit board because there were some concerns that the wires could get pinched or cut, if care wasn't taken, when the marker was stripped & re-assembled. As from Dec 9th, all X-mags worldwide will ship with the new Ver 2 ACE circuit board. If you have an X-Mag with the Ver 1 ACE, it does NOT mean that you have a Beta X-Mag. Your ACE works the same as a VER 2 ACE. It has the same components, and uses the same version of the ACE software.
    We only shipped Beta X-Mags to specific players, who were happy to participate in the Beta program. Beta X-Mags were used to try out a variety of new ideas & specs, but the Beta markers are all kept updated to the latest spec.
    I hope this makes things a little clearer.
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    • Mr Pink
      DXS Entity
      • Aug 2002
      • 205

      #32
      Originally posted by CaPoEiRa


      get it together, ya big baby!
      C'mon now Clare, just becuase you and I have X-mags doesn't mean we can't feel sorry for the others

      Sometimes I love being British
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      • Load SM5
        Scruffy Administrator

        • Oct 2000
        • 6772

        #33
        Originally posted by Mr Pink

        Sometimes I love being British
        The rest of the time you cry like a baby.


        Moorewatch

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        • Mr Pink
          DXS Entity
          • Aug 2002
          • 205

          #34
          True, I often weep into my G/F's bosum (See Girlfriend pic thread) - wouldn't you
          London Tigers AM

          Sponsored by:
          CustomSportsGear.com,
          PRO CAPS,
          DraXXuS paintballs,
          V-FORCE,
          The MATRIX Centre,
          MATRIX,
          GENERATION E,
          PURE RUSH PAINTBALL,
          EVO II

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          www.purerush.co.uk
          With help from our mates at:
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          • Load SM5
            Scruffy Administrator

            • Oct 2000
            • 6772

            #35
            Yes, I saw. It would seem that prolonged weeping would require the use of a snorkel.


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            If you read this in English, thank a soldier.

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            • oldsoldier
              just choke yourself out!!!
              • Feb 2002
              • 2459

              #36
              Thanks for clearing that up John.
              X-mag #10. Nuff said.

              my feedback

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              • manike
                INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                • Jan 2001
                • 3820

                #37
                Originally posted by Mr Pink
                Sometimes I love being British
                Ditto.
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                • cphilip
                  Former Moderator

                  • Jun 2026
                  • 16216

                  #38
                  It's times like these I wish we had not won the war...



                  AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                  cphilip.com

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                  • datapimp69
                    Pimp Master Delux
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 1219

                    #39
                    its times like this i wish after WWII we had just taken them over as well.


                    from the judge in the WDP v Sp case.... " i find it significant that aside from a somewhat limited notebook produced by gaston, the four named inventors offer NO documentation of there work or there contributions to the conception or reduction to practice of the claimed invention"

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                    • CRog075
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 763

                      #40
                      Originally posted by datapimp69
                      its times like this i wish after WWII we had just taken them over as well.

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                      • Fred
                        AO Zealot
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 2624

                        #41
                        So...

                        the ACE system in the the Euro-X's is too different from the USA-X's to swap one for the other? different software on the board?

                        or is it a physical size problem like the tray for the eye?

                        just curious...

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                        • manike
                          INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                          • Jan 2001
                          • 3820

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Fred
                          the ACE system in the the Euro-X's is too different from the USA-X's to swap one for the other? different software on the board?

                          or is it a physical size problem like the tray for the eye?
                          It's the same board and software. But the ACE itself now has it's own board which the body of the gun is milled to fit over (and a little out of the top of the grip). The Euro ones didn't have the same body and grip milling and had the components that are now on the ACE board on a wiring loom which was mainly in the grip. The ace was then on a wire which ran through the grip to a top hat like piece which fitted into a hole in the body.

                          Obviously that's fine for us Brits and Euro's but they were worried the average American user would damage it and trap the wires, so it was changed so that can't happen (just teasing you guys! :) ) The new set up with the ACE board makes it easier to take apart and reassemble the gun.

                          So it's mainly a physical issue. You can mill a Euro one to take the US version. And in the future all will be US versions... apart from my gun cos I already milled out too much of it for the board to fit in without breaking through oops hehehe

                          manike
                          Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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                          • Fred
                            AO Zealot
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 2624

                            #43
                            Originally posted by manike



                            So it's mainly a physical issue. You can mill a Euro one to take the US version. And in the future all will be US versions... apart from my gun cos I already milled out too much of it for the board to fit in without breaking through oops hehehe

                            manike
                            Ah-ha! I get it now... thanks!

                            lol... too much milling? really? looks like the engineer made a boo-boo! you have LX though, who needs an eye???

                            So who gets the third Manik-E-Mag???

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                            • ben_JD

                              #44
                              Originally posted by AGD
                              Sorry but there is nothing in particular happening dec 9th. AGDE has twenty guns they want to ship next week so thats where the date came from.

                              AGD
                              When do you think that AGDUSA will want to ship out some guns?

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                              • manike
                                INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                                • Jan 2001
                                • 3820

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Fred
                                lol... too much milling? really? looks like the engineer made a boo-boo! you have LX though, who needs an eye???
                                Nope the engineer designed it for the Euro ACE... which will fit just perfectly :)
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