IRAQ THREAD originaly "Seems at least one Brit agrees with me....er us."

[nippinout]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
I question everything I know everyday.

Collegeboy, that is called paranoia.

[Lone Brain Cell]

I thought that freedom of speach was one thing you guys hold high probably higher than any other value??

Why is it Shartly, that you are getting so personal with Colledgeboy??? why do you have to resort to bullying to get your point across?? to me that shows YOU have to grow up!

[shartley]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


Yes veto as in what France, Russia, and Chinia will us probably.

This site is rather interesting.

http://www.iht.com/articles/88413.html

Also the UN can be useful and it can not be useful, depending on where your morals are. I find the UN rather useful.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Lone Brain Cell
I thought that freedom of speach was one thing you guys hold high probably higher than any other value??

Why is it Shartly, that you are getting so personal with Colledgeboy??? why do you have to resort to bullying to get your point across?? to me that shows YOU have to grow up!

[Lone Brain Cell]

There is a difference between getting pissed off & bilittling people, Just because he has different views than you doesnt mean he isnt intelligent.

why does being a "Johnny come lately" hold any credit to your argument??? spending more time in AO than someone else isnt a real good point just shows you need more of a life mate

[shartley]

Originally posted by Lone Brain Cell
There is a difference between getting pissed off & bilittling people, Just because he has different views than you doesnt mean he isnt intelligent.

why does being a "Johnny come lately" hold any credit to your argument??? spending more time in AO than someone else isnt a real good point just shows you need more of a life mate

[aaron_mag]

Originally posted by shartley

Now we are getting way off topic but I have something to add here. I've known alot of police officers in martial arts and a couple of them observed to me that there is a danger in getting an us versus them attitude. As one put it you are often dealing with undesirable sorts. Even when you are dealing with "regular" folks they typically don't want to talk to you or are getting a speeding ticket, etc.

I would say as a police officer you learn elements in human nature and elements of the world that many of us never get to see (or want to see for that matter). However these are elements and not the totality. My point is that being a police officer, a soldier, and most especially a college student does not mean that we can't learn from other perspectives.

EDIT:

Other people were typing while I was typing. This is not a post to attack Shartely or suggest that he should grow up etc. To tell you the truth I actually enjoy Shartley's presence on the board because he offers a radically different opinion than my own and advocates it strongly. Note that I would not be interested in this board if everyone agreed with me. Yes he can get heated but this board would not be the same without him. On the other hand, however, I feel that he seems to get a little too riled where Collegeboy is concerned.

[Lone Brain Cell]

Fair Call

[1stdeadeye]

Step back

Originally posted by Lone Brain Cell
There is a difference between getting pissed off & bilittling people, Just because he has different views than you doesnt mean he isnt intelligent.

why does being a "Johnny come lately" hold any credit to your argument??? spending more time in AO than someone else isnt a real good point just shows you need more of a life mate

LBC, Collegeboy sometimes refuses to accept some facts. The Palestinians celebrating 9/11 even though it was carried on multiple networks. He sometimes seem to question things for the sake of POing people.

I would also be careful if I were you before jumping into a battle of wits as unarmed as your name implies !

P.S. Leave KHartley out of it or Sam will really get mean on you. He will let her loose to tear you up!

[Lone Brain Cell]

Re: Step back

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


LBC, Collegeboy sometimes refuses to accept some facts. The Palestinians celebrating 9/11 even though it was carried on multiple networks. He sometimes seem to question things for the sake of POing people.

I would also be careful if I were you before jumping into a battle of wits as unarmed as your name implies !

P.S. Leave KHartley out of it or Sam will really get mean on you. He will let her loose to tear you up!

Hey, hey..... I'm not sticking up for CB all I am saying is you dont need to get so personal thats all. CB has just as much right to express his views as anyone else.
& wadda ya mean that he doesnt accept The Palestinians celebrating 9/11??? that was all over the news for weeks??

[1stdeadeye]

Huh?

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Shartley, you are funny. You actually think you are some sort of intellectual genius compared to me. That is funny. You own post show that you have no understanding of human emotions, no understanding of the average guy. You somehow have this notion that a terrorist is born with some sort of mental imbalance that makes them a terrorist, but you say their surrounding has nothing to do with it. You some how think that a potential terrorist is different from me and you. You somehow think most everybody hates the US. That is about as wrong as it can get. I would be more then willing to square off in an intellectual match against you. Oh an no mater what, if I saw you on the street in need, no matter how messed up your ideas are I would still help you.

Did you read the same post I did? I didn't get an us versus the world sentiment from Sam's post. He said screw those that don't like us. I am fine with that. CB-No matter how hard you try, you will never ever get everyone to agree to everything at one time. Hell you even pointed out that in the WWII declaration. When the US declared war after being attacked, we still had 1 congressman vote against the war!

As for the potential terrorist, I strongly feel that Sam, myself and even you are vastly different then them. We value human life. Any group that preaches suicide as a way to heaven is evil. I am not condeming Islam as there are many peaceful practitioners of it. People of all religions have commited evil acts in the name of God, but they were all evil people. I for one value my life far to much to intentionaly kill myself to take out an enemy. I am not a coward and would fight for my country if called, however dieing in battle and blowing myself up are two vastly different things, so yes apotential terrorist with no value for life (theirs or others) is vastly different from us! *

*Postal workers not included

[shartley]

Re: Step back

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
LBC, Collegeboy sometimes refuses to accept some facts. The Palestinians celebrating 9/11 even though it was carried on multiple networks. He sometimes seem to question things for the sake of POing people.

I would also be careful if I were you before jumping into a battle of wits as unarmed as your name implies !

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
P.S. Leave KHartley out of it or Sam will really get mean on you. He will let her loose to tear you up!

[1stdeadeye]

Here you go!

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Your post seemed like it was saying I shouldn't question things, in particular the Palestinian incident. I am saying that it is good and right to question things. How do we know the world is round, physics and common sense tells us that. How do we know that we went to the moon? We don't. How do we know that the Palestinians were in the streets dancing and celebrating 911? We don't.

Here is his post LBC. Stating opionion as fact annoys me. I do not like to be annoyed.

On the Flip side I really like CB. He makes me laugh!

[Collegeboy]

[1stdeadeye]

Prove It

Originally posted by Collegeboy

When you have a set of facts that is verified by two or moreINDEPENDANT and reputable organizations(here CNN, MSNBC, FOX NEWS, and AL-Jezera) then they are facts, not opinions or conspiracies. Where did you see this show? WHat show was it? I'll do some digging on my own. Come to the plate with facts! If not, then don't be suprised when some one calls you on "I saw it"!