http://cgi.ebay.com/Z-Grip-X-valve-...=item1e58b6fb5e

I don't plan to bid, but I have to know where this frame came from.


Says "Cripple Z" and looks like the offspring of a Z-grip and a Stormwalk (after being run over by a truck). It also appears to be a gasthru, but I can't tell if it could hide an LPR in there somewhere... Could it be a custom piece? Limited run?


This is the 2nd frame in the last 2 days that I've never seen or heard of... Anyone know more?

that is a frame made by jay8541 and i think he made 10.

That indeed is a Cripple-Z and I have only seen/held one in person... It was made by the gentleman who made the Stormwalk frames as a DIY pneumag frame for z-frame enthusiasts...

WK2

idk what it is but i love it

Huh, I totally missed this. I loved my airwalk and I'm dying for a stormwalk, but the Cripple Z is just a total "miss" to me (and I love Z-grips). I guess 1 of 10 is a rarity, but I was hoping I'd stumbled on to something epic that hadn't been seen in a while.

I'm guessing they were made about a year to a year and a half ago? That would explain my completely missing it.

He made 6 + a proto-type.

He's made a ton of stuff to include pump kits, grips, frames...etc...etc... Good guy to deal with to. He might still have the proto-type. If you ask nicely he might give it up

I've seen what I thought was all of Jays work (and I had suspicions about this). Frankly, I loved my Airwalk and wouldn't have parted with it if it weren't for money issues. I do, however, really really want a Stormwalk, but again there's that issue of having enough money

Someone is selling a Stormwalk for $200 on the BST right now. See if he'll trade for it.

This is a Cerberus Innovations Crippled Z and there were only 5 made with serial numbers and one without a serial number.

Soooo....Jay himself doesn't know what he was talking about then

Jay and I had a long talk about the frames last month. You can even look up his original thread and he talk about how many he made.

Jay forgets a lot of things.....lol..poor little midget

You are just figuring this out.

Jay never knows what he is talking about!

He told me that they were numbered up to 5. I assumed that he started with 001. He told me he had sold all but the one (un-numbered) he sent to me to build a sleeper pneu'd. Before it was finished he had sold that one too. Here are a few picks of the one that I did in the early stages of mock up. Please note that the LPR is already mounted.

This was by far the hardest pneumag I have ever built. There were a few special one off parts made to get this to fucntion properly.

I believe that "Swamp Thing" owns it now. This thing ripped when I was done with it. I was so happy to finish it and ship it I never took any pictures of the completed gun, I hope one day that pictures of this show up, I would love to have some for my album.

i second that request for pictures of that complete frame and marker.

I know, I actually sent the guy a freebie from his "wants" list just because it was something small enough that I couldn't make up cash for the difference. I've been sick as a dog and too lazy to start a new F/S thread and drum up some cash. That said, my birthdays soon, so I might just drop some hints with the little lady