Well I finally got to a field with the TM-15 today. Overall Im very happy. Ill get to my impressions after the pics you came for.


Shown with Sanchez Machine SM1 and w/o flip up sights/hopper adapter.










On the negative side:

-The paint seems mediocre. Its finished well but doesnt take scuffing well. I could scrape it off the picatinny rail with my thumbnail. This isnt too big of a deal to me. I will be Duracoating mine soon.

-The trigger, while better than the TM-7, is very uninspiring. Feels very toy-like. Especially after shooting dual bearing triggers.

Everything else is on the up and up so far. The marker came packaged with a nice toolkit (even a battery) and well diagramed manual. Out of the box it has a great feel. Nice and solid. I gave it the once over before airing it up. It shot 306, 305, 302 (paint was RPS Premium). I didnt find that it was any quieter than my Viking but it wouldnt trigger my Empire Reloader B. I had to use a shake-and-bake hopper so I couldnt really unleash with it.

Personally I found that a 45/15 on gun was more comfortable than the stock. I didnt use the included flip-up sights either (not pictured). Te marker is ideally suited to a small holo/red dot IMO since the shroud obscures your view of the barrel tip.

I havent had time to crack the shells yet. Further review info as I dig into it further. So far Kee gets from this customer.

I just don't see you rocking with one of these

Its a project. I have my reasons.

It does look very good for such things.

With the little bit of red, it reminds me of a sheridan with a cooper t bolt or asa.

Yeah i can't either, although i do like that it sort of but not really resembles the 416, though i would never play with it.

Oh yeah, as far as the stock, it tends to be that way with all stocks that are meant for firearms because you shoot a paintball gun differently, plus the whole mask issue.

True. But the design idea was to place the stock lower than normal to allow for mask clearance. Still a no-go for me. Bottle is still a better stock and one less piece of gear to carry.

Good idea, but it's still not low enough to allow mask clearance. Now it if was as low as the middle of the trigger frame, maybe a bit lower, that might be better. The fact of the matter though is that a paintball gun doesn't have enough kick to warrant a stock in line with the bolt, and many people don't understand that.

And many people forget that stocks provide stability. Again, I prefer to use my tank as a stock. Just saying...... you know, remote users and all that.

Well of course they provide stability, but paintball guns, especially with masks, have a much better stock when it's lower, usually right around where the tank goes. I never got remote lines myself, it throws off the balance of the gun and takes away a point of stability, i still would prefer a more balanced gun for running than a lighter one with an off set weight.

Got to hold one of those at Dday this year. My impression was it's a TM7 in a much larger, bulkier dress. Wether you're in the woods or the speedball field, this game is won or lost by speed and teamwork. I'll take the more maneuverable TM7 over that any day.

Remote lines are just a hose that snags things. I'll second the above comments, a paintball gun doesn't have enough recoil to need the stock inline with the bolt, so why not mount the tank below and use that? Heck, you can even mount a red-dot on if you feel so inclined. Now you can actually use the thing, too.

Yeah, i don't get the whole mil sim thing, a smaller speedball gun will help you out in woodsball too more than a big gun will, and then you have a gun that it easy to use in any scenario.

Mil-sim I've never done. I don't care for all the extra weight from shrouds and cosmetics. However buttstocks are useful for people who are used to shooting real firearms. Using a remote ( I've never had a problem with mine snagging on anything, ) and a buttstock gives a marker something that feels and balances more like a real rifle, which is more familiar and comfortable for some people.

Well i prefer a buttstock on a normal rifle, but it gets in the way on a paintball gun. They're two very different guns and as suck require different forms of shooting, for me at least. The mask just doesn't allot me to sight, if i could look down the sights fine on a paintball gun with a normal stock i would use that, but the familiarity is outweighed by being able to aim well.

That's just it, I can't argue with your personal preference or opinion. When I first started I liked a buttstock because it felt familiar to me, even if I couldn't get my eye right over the top of the barrel. Sighting over the top versus down the side wasn't a huge difference to me so long as my hands and arms were more out front. I've since adjusted to run my tank off a drop, but it took a while for it to be comfortable.

Yeah, , but aiming down the top with your mask in the way just doesn't seem like i have as much control. It does all come down to personal preference however, i just never really understood using a stock.

OOf, hate-fest in here. Id like to clear some things up:

1: I dont use stocks (for reasons already mentioned.) The pics are for reference.

2: 99% of speedball guns are vert feed. Dumb in an era of force fed hoppers. I plan on box feeding this one from below. Clearing the rail for a sight (again, as mentioned.)

I would think most of you know me well enough to know Im not a bandwagon fan-boy.

Edit: its all painted now. Pics when I can get to it.

Ok, read through all the stock debate, and we have to all agree, it comes down to comfort and opinion and what feels the best for you, I know a lot of people just like to rest the stock against their body for stability, and if they are milsim mainly they run a remote to make it more "realistic..." so not only does that stock help them look like they have an m4 that shoots little balls full of paint, but it helps them be lazier and keep those few extra pounds in need of comfort.

Personally, I prefer just to use my tank as a stock and have a tight setup, which is what I do with my mini. I do however think the TM15 looks cool, although the one pictured here is weird looking due to its red barrel, I don't know, I guess if you spend the money to have the look of a real gun, then things like that should not be on the gun lol.

I dunno, the red barrel caught my eye. You'd probably start a one-week-fashion craze if you posted the thing on AR15.com.

Anyway, didn't he say it was Duracoated? Looking forward to those pics!

Its not Duracoat (yet.) I did a trial color run with Fusion Camo to make sure I like everything. Ill redo it in DC after stripping the body down to bare metal. Pics will be tomorrow.

you must be hangin round UMS again ain't ya

why doesnt it underfeed?

Yup.

Fresh paint pics. These are straight out of the camera. It was really overcast so the pics look a little bluish/flat. But you get the idea.

Damn S that looks great , does that ASA remind me of one on a mini ??

it is

It's essentially a Mini in a mil-sim body.

I wasn't saying all that in reference to you, just people using stocks in general, i know you're not the type to use a stock, heck i was surprised when i saw you had a TM-15.

As for the vert feed, it's more to be ambidextrous i think.

Oh, and the paintjob is awesome.

Here are the fruits of this afternoon. Shortened the foreguard and built a mock suppressor. I have no Dremel so all work was done with hand saws, files and sandpaper. I decided to leave my front recessed rather than flush (like Soggy's) so the last picatinny stud is full on top. I am so freaking happy with the results.

Its a love hate for me. I like it, but i just dont like it while imagining a hopper on it.

Did you read the thread or just look at the pretty pictures?

I don't want to be critical, but....



If someone would see this at first glance, i would not be suprised that they said it was a toy gun. The paintjob is nice, but it does not go well with the mil-sim body it went on to. But that's just my opinion.