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Collegeboy
09-03-2003, 06:08 PM
September 3, 1789, the Treaty of Paris was signed which gave the US its independence from Great Britian.

So happy 214 birthday to the USA.

Marek
09-03-2003, 06:42 PM
Someone was awake for History class.

Happy B-Day America, a damn fine country.

aaron_mag
09-03-2003, 07:10 PM
Yes I recall Jefferson debating with many people about exactly when the nation celebrate its independence. Jefferson (having a vested interest in the declaration of independence) believed the 4th of July was the proper date.....:D

Collegeboy
09-03-2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by aaron_mag
Yes I recall Jefferson debating with many people about exactly when the nation celebrate its independence. Jefferson (having a vested interest in the declaration of independence) believed the 4th of July was the proper date.....:D

I wonder why he wanted it to be on the declaration day ;)

1stdeadeye
09-03-2003, 07:15 PM
Oh God NOOOOOOOO!!!

No more debates on whether independence is gained by Declaration or treaty!

Not again please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

aaron_mag
09-03-2003, 07:22 PM
Not going to be lured into it.:D Just offering information on Jefferson's take on it. If I recall Adams felt it should be earlier.

For 1stdeadeye here is a great link for you

EDIT: DELETED LINK....

I knew you were a HUGE Johnny Depp fan so I figured you might be interested :rolleyes: (Yes I am an evil thread hijacker.....can't help myself).:D

1stdeadeye
09-03-2003, 07:34 PM
AM,
Why did you have to post that?

Now I must respond that Johnny Depp is French now! Ergo I must now boycott him. As for the big dumb puppy comment, Let him come over here and I'll introduce him to my aggressive big dumb puppy.

Yet as much as he derides the US, he retains his citizenship and did not renounce it for French Citizenship. Hmmmm I guess he won't put his money where his mouth is or else just doesn't want to pay the socialist French taxes.

aaron_mag
09-03-2003, 07:43 PM
I didn't want to start a flame war about France again so I deleted the link. I just posted it because I thought you might find some humor in it. :D You and I can joke about an issue and let it drop but others would turn that into a 50 page debate!

As for CB's original comment it is something that at least should be on calendar's. It may be, however, that the founding fathers did not want to link the signing of the treaty with independence (wisely). There were plenty that were suspicious of France's intentions even back then.....

FalconGuy016
09-03-2003, 08:40 PM
Go America! I appreciate!

i_baked_cookies
09-03-2003, 08:45 PM
unhappy bday!

1stdeadeye
09-03-2003, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by aaron_mag
I didn't want to start a flame war about France again so I deleted the link. I just posted it because I thought you might find some humor in it. :D You and I can joke about an issue and let it drop but others would turn that into a 50 page debate!



LOL. I forgot the smilies in my post.

Page one, as Mills Lane would say,"Let's get it on!":p

Albinonewt
09-04-2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
Yet as much as he derides the US, he retains his citizenship and did not renounce it for French Citizenship. Hmmmm I guess he won't put his money where his mouth is or else just doesn't want to pay the socialist French taxes.

We were talking about this at Shatner for a moment, although I let it drop really fast.

But someone I was with mentioned that he respected Depp because unlike most Hollywood types he left America and went to France instead of just staying here and complaining (as opposed to the folks that live in Hollywood and say they hate America). I only half agree with his point, since Depp still likes America enough to come here and make movies to fund his new French life style.

All he did was change his address. Now, if he said he was so fed up with America that from now on he wouldn't set foot here and was going to no longer make American movies I'd have no choice but to respect that.

But he won't, because his convictions don't run all the way to his wallet.

aaron_mag
09-04-2003, 11:14 AM
Personally I like Depp (as an actor in movies). The only reason I have some dislike for him is because my wife has this strange obsession with him. Can't really complain as I used to watch every single Michelle Pfieffer movie that came out no matter what the plot.

As for the whole France thing I don't have a problem with them. The whole "Freedom Fries and Freedom Braids" to me really is stupid. Just my personal opinion.

1stdeadeye
09-04-2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by aaron_mag
me really is stupid.

Hey we found something else we can agree on.
;)
:p