Body in development from Deadlywind- Karta for Emag!

[nicad]

Well its about that time again.
"Karta"- This one comeing from the mad little mind of Arowmic of Team Deadlywind. This design is specifiacally made for the Emag rail.

Its still in design, which means it will be a while still before any see light.

pics: :)
(yes thats an angel trigger frame model on it. no it dosent mean anything. its just the only trigger frame model I had to slap on it to give a visual. even its still unfinished! :p )

*edit- updated pics
http://deadlywind.com/karta/final_candidate1_blue1.jpg
http://deadlywind.com/karta/final_candidate1_blue2.jpg
http://deadlywind.com/karta/final_candidate1_blue3.jpg

out!

[Gitaroo Man]

NICE!

[maglover52]

thats nice. looks kinda like a 03 shocker but its alot better!

[AGD]

Now thats a bad boy there!

AGD

[Wrathchild]

Nicad, That is SWEET.... Would say more, but I am speechless. I cant wait to see it made.

[Army]

How many passes do you estimate? Will the price be comparable to your other bodies?

How can I get one NOW?:D

That baby beats the Dalara all to pieces.

[nicad]

price SHOULD be compairable to the Dallara.. with the exception that an Emag rail is more expensive.. and this one will take more time to carve down on the rail. more surface area to cover.

[Gadget]

The body looks great. I'll be up for one of those + matching rail.....although I notice you've not got the sear-pin 'bump' in that pic.....I take it you'll have to leave it in place even though you're removing the wings?

Only thing I would say is - leave some clearance around the detent hole so that non-AGD detents don't foul on the curves.

[tony emerson]

Very very NICE!!!! Keep up the Good Work!!!!!

[hawpunch]

nicad, please stop theemadness before you drive me into bankruptcy :). nice stuff...i still like the dallara better though.

jae park

[Snertz]

Great Googamooga! Mmmm, I like..

[FutureMagOwner]

arg your third picture of that just killed me...

[nickname]

Hey man you were right this thing is massive drool.

[gibby]

NOW...THAT...IS...JUST...BEAUTIFUL!!! Seeing something like that brings a tear to my eye...and if my ULE Emag had an eye, I'm sure it'd have a tear too! I'll be waiting for one of these!!

[jdev]

just a thought.

if colin/colin's machinist can do the modular bodies and such, why not have AGD have colin/colin's machinst turn out the bodies and deliver xmags quicker..

:shrug:

its a though, probably poorly thought out as well :rolleyes:

[Army]

Joey d, the Xmag body is solely owned by AGD-Europe. We can't make it here.

However, Nicad obviously has the ability to design CNC programs for domestic production.......

[JT2002]

what program do you use to design your bodies? i wish to learn how to use these programs so i can just make some designs for teh heck of it. man, all these sweet bodys, and yet theres still a VERY limited choice of triggers. if they only made a sweet blade trigger for the guns that doesnt take up much space, i might still own a mag meh

[MarkM]

Originally posted by joey d
just a thought.

if colin/colin's machinist can do the modular bodies and such, why not have AGD have colin/colin's machinst turn out the bodies and deliver xmags quicker..

:shrug:

its a though, probably poorly thought out as well :rolleyes:

The X-Mags are made here in the UK by AGDE so Tom has no control over supply...this has been explained many times before...this is "probably" why american companies are trying to produce something to "compliment" the AGD product line.

[GT]

angel frame on an emag hmmmm.......


sweet bod!

[MicroMiniMe]

It looks cool. I'll say that. I like OTV Over The Valve bodies, but the cuts are too deep for my $.02, the powertube half of the x-valve is still showing and the prongs on top just dont look stable enough to not be bent or broke off in a spill.
Don't get me wrong, its great work, just not my style. I still love my V2 Chord though and am waiting for an emag body match combo to get with an Emag.

[Blennidae]

I agree with MicroMiniMe on the cuts being too deep. I saw my first X-mag in person the other day and was surprised I could see some of the brass on/off assembly.

I would prefer the OTV part not be cut back past the step in the valve. To me, with the cuts that far in hurts the overall flow. Besides, its just another place for dirt and paint to get into when playing.

[USAF-Flyboy with a Mag]

NICAD....
I have to say...hands down...you come up with the sexiest and most creative concepts! Definately an asset to AO!

[robertjuric]

Holy Crap!!

If you make that, Im going to buy an emag just for that reason.

I really like the looks, not crazy about the top end, I think it might look better solid, but still with the curves.

[jdev]

Originally posted by Army
Joey d, the Xmag body is solely owned by AGD-Europe. We can't make it here.

However, Nicad obviously has the ability to design CNC programs for domestic production.......

hence why my idea was poorly thought out :)

thanks for the input army. what about the idea for a modular body? could that be reproduced without stepping on peoples toes? If so, I say give the go ahead to colin. he /his machinist seem to have nothing better to do than make kickass bodies :)

by the way arowmic, youve outdone colin :D

[ShaftyMcGee]

nicad? will u adopt me? your my hero

[Quickling]

AWESOME!!!

[JT2002]

no!! nicad's adopting me!!!! :eek: :D

[fire1811]

are they done yet??? :D

[FragTek]

OMFG... soooo sexy! I WANT ONE!!!!

Looks as if it will have a "built-in" rail that matches the body design, is this right?

I want one of these as soon as they get released!!!!!!!

[$tevo]

wow nicad. take all the time u need, i have to save up to buy an emag now.

[Digits]

You guys always make the sweetest bodies.. Good stuff

[fire1811]

one thing i would as is a clamping feedneck or
your going to get more complaints about that then
anything else :D

[Duke Henry]

Impressive to say the least!!!!

Now AGD, please tell me good news regarding warp slug bodies! If I could get something like this in a warp left body...let's just say that I would be ecstatic!

[personman]

Thats tight! Now make one thats a duplicate of the 03 shocker body so we can confuse some people :p

[Creative Mayhem]

Once again Nicad... you have done it. That is truely awe inspiring. :D

[nicad]

thanks for all the words yall..
however, remember this one was all Arowmic's doings. I can only take credit for knowing the man and going to Fuddruckers with him now and then. :)

[PaintSkater00]

Wow that is very nice! Ihave to buy one when i get my e-mag!

Do you have an estimate when its going to be out? November, December?

[Xzorz]

Are you going to make a version for a regular mag?

-X

[Crimson_Turkey]

Nicad, we need to team up. I think we could make soo much money together. With my gun designs and your other sweet ****. Money, you like? Listen to the call... money... money... money

[MoBiLe]

i guess im the only one who doesnt like it
i much preffer the dallara sluggo

[ZAust]

wow.. i thought the dallara was kinda ugly.. but this is toitness. if i have an emag and the cash lying around, you have a customer.

[xadamx]

freaking gorgeous. i dont know how you do it! :) keep it up fellas

[MantisMag]

i'm going to agree with what a couple other people said here. i think it would look better if the top was solid. other than that it looks great!

[SkyBoySurfer]

OWWWWWW


OWW OWW OWW OWWW!!!!

[S.S bandit AL]

wanting to know when there comin out and what color because im ready to buy

[CaliWagon31]

I would also like to know a price and an estimated arrival date

[TequilaMockingbird]

I need three things: ordering information, a washcloth, and a cigarette. :D

THAT is by far the best custom Mag body I've seen to date!

[Big_Chops]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! nice job nicad

[Remington]

Awesome job Arowmic! If we send in our present ULE E-mag rails, could we get a small price break(on whatever the rail would otherwise cost)? :confused: I can't wait to see a real prototype! :eek: :D

[Blazingace]

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.....................Plea se let me know when this comes out. PLEASE!!!!! This is the best body I have ever seen. I loved the Dallara, but this is way better. I will buy a new rail or send you my old one. Incredible.

[50 cal]

nicad,
Will you be posting these in the Dealers forum when you have a run of them?

[rikkter]

argh i'm beginning ot hate youuu lol.

now i dont want the dallara. i want this oneee

[Automaggin2]

Custom Battery Pack!

[rikkter]

Originally posted by Automaggin2
Custom Battery Pack!

i've already asked him about that :P
i need to give him my extra pack when i see him in December

[coolcatpete]

When will it be ready I want now arrg.
Pete

[rikkter]

Originally posted by coolcatpete
When will it be ready I want now arrg.
Pete

read the post.

and fix your sig man, its HUGEEE:mad: ;)

[C_22]

Man, I love the curves on that design. Conga-rats!

[Hephaestus]

That is a Real Work Of Art!
I am amaized at what designers can do today on the computer. Kudos to Arowmic! He really knows his stuff! Makes me wish that I took Autocad and CNC classes when I had the chance.

[Splat]

Hella sweet Colin!!!

WOOT!

[Snapps]

well, you single handedly inspired me to get an emag...congrats on creating the single, hottest piece of aluminum out there!

[RetroEclipseMan]

Man, that is one awsome design you got there. Is there any chance that there could be a version of that to fit with classic frames? Or maybe with channel milled in the rail to have the adjustable forgrip much like the rougue rail. If that is ok with him of course.

Man, why must my car break down causing me to have no money right as all these things are coming out.:mad:

[coolcatpete]

Originally posted by rikkter



and fix your sig man, its HUGEEE:mad: ;)

no it is perfect and unique. And as long as it goes with the standerds, other people have big pics in there as well.
pete

[rikkter]

Originally posted by coolcatpete


no it is perfect and unique. And as long as it goes with the standerds, other people have big pics in there as well.
pete

actually, the standards say one picture :P

[nicad]

actually, coolcatpete, your sig is too big and breaking many of the sig rules.. two of which are:

• You are allowed ONE sig image. Not 2 or 3 small images - but ONE.

• Sig images may NOT be larger than 175 x 350 pixels. ANY image found taller than 175px or longer than 350px will be removed. Images must be under 20k. These are guidelines and it is recommend that your sig images be smaller than the maximum allowed numbers. Under 15K is prefered, and the smaller the image the better.


so, please correct your sig image(s), and lets not discusss this any further in this thread, as it is way off topic.

thanks! :)
Colin

[rikkter]

no way this body is going to be ready for december, while we're in texas is there?

[nicad]

rikkter-
im workig on it right now.. im eagerly waiting for a few test rails from AGD.. might just might have something to look at by Tx Throwdown time.. :-O

[rikkter]

well i'm telling you this now, if you have a working body, that looks very similiar, or if you even have the final product, done by the texas game, i'll definitally buy it

[Bulldog]

Outstanding. Heh...EmagnaKarta.

[coolcatpete]

I fixed my sig it is not as good but hey any thing to make you happy.
Pete.

[blakdragon21]

so hot right now, time for me to save up for an emag to get this body too.

[Dueydog]

Why doesn't anyone incorporate the body and rail? What am I missing that prevents this?

You should make a breech for the X-mag with a removable or locking feedneck, dual detents and make quick cash.

Happy Holidays,
Matt

[xadamx]

Originally posted by Bulldog
Outstanding. Heh...EmagnaKarta.

hahhaha good call bulldog

[nicad]

an idea of what it would look like on a stock emag rail, if for some reason someone wanted to do that.

http://deadlywind.com/karta/latest%20with%20grip%20stock%20rail1.jpg

http://deadlywind.com/karta/latest%20with%20grip%20stock%20rail2.jpg

[rikkter]

that actually doesn't look too bad. but karta rail is better :)

are there any other IDEAS brewing up in you're guy's head?

[FragTek]

Someone mentioned a one-piece body/rail combo. That would be so off the hook, could it be done, or are there limiting factors that make it that you have to have 2 seperate pieces?

[nicad]

a body/rail combo would be optimal.. however getting a base to start with is the problem. There are some who make their own body/rails from scratch... but as for modifying existing professionaly made bodies, your limited to pretty much Xmag base or PTP Micromag base.

The slug on a rail affords a semi-cost effictive solution to customizing and it is actually easier to access areas of it for milling.

rikkter- I smell a Fuddruckers visit comin later today with some of the Deadlywind crew.. who knows what might come of it.. :)

[FragTek]

Great explanation, thanks. I could see where you could save a LOT of money doing it this way :)

[Dueydog]

Thanks for the info on body rail combo! That's the best looking body yet. Keep up the good work.
Matt

[pito189]

I don't know how you get AGD detents off, but looking at this picture I would guess a wrench of some sort. Wouldn't the wrench hit pretty good on the raised spots.

http://deadlywind.com/karta/latest%20with%20grip3.jpg

[nicad]

Pito-
the AGD detents are ment to be tightened with fingers.. an O-ring under them keeps them from vibrating out. Also, those in the model are just placed on there.. in reality there would be a little bit milled out around them to give some room.

[pito189]

Ok cool. Just wondering. Good work on the design, Arrow has good ideas.

[Blennidae]

Hey nicad: Maybe design a body that flows with the stock Emag rail. Something that shares simillar lines, but is more than just a tube. If it looks good, and its just a body, the cost should be minimal compared to the body/rail combo. Just a suggestion.

[Hawkeye]

I can tell you right now, you got a buyer in me, and I don't even own an emag yet. I will buy it ahead of time to give me more pressure in getting the mag.

[rikkter]

Originally posted by RenagadeOfFunkRTPcf
...why is it a e-mag body/rail combo?...

...if i just pay you for both (you get the rail and body)...will it fit my intelliframe?...i know my rt pro valve will fit...

without modification to the rail it self for a foregrip, since the emag rails dont have the foregrip hole(battery, duh).

but then again, on the emag rails, theres no place to put the sear pin, since it uses the pin through the body deal.
plus the emag sear has a specail bearing type deal on it.
not sure if the rt pros have it or not.


but!
it does fit. and i was bored and just threw mine on my warp mag(normal classic sear), well, gassing up it leaked, so i held bolt back, then fired it withfinger out of the way, woo full auto, i wish i recorded it lol

[rikkter]

Originally posted by RenagadeOfFunkRTPcf
so all i would need to do is buy a e-mag battery pack/ pay nicad for rail and body?

no, what you would have to do is drill the hole for the foregrip.
there is no holes on the rail where the battery pack fits onto is on the frame.

to tell you the truth, any foregrip will look bad on a emag rail, since it'll have all the extra space.

[Dragonphreak]

So if we were to order one of these, do we mail our rail in? about how much for body and rail?

[LIGHTEMUP]

Originally posted by maglover52
thats nice. looks kinda like a 03 shocker but its alot better!

that looks nothing like a 03 shocker

[FooTemps]

:D

RHINO 3d power! Thanks arowmic for the rail file and a quick one line how to on how you got those curves, I hope I'll make a nice lookin rail for you guys. If you actually use it (which i doubt [me = body design n00b, only took a few art classes and 3d animation class]) can I get a free karta body for an rtp? lol... or at least the rail? :D

[blakdragon21]

will these be able to fit on a ptp micro emag?

[FooTemps]

Well, they replace the body and rail so all you really have is the gripframe and battery... so yes

Anyway, :)! I finally found a good sketch that will be impossible to model! YAY! That and I saw arowmic's new rail. :)

/me will not show it so don't ask

[nicad]

a PTP micromag is a body/rail as one piece.. so.. yes, you could replace that one piece with whatever AGD body/rail combo, or Dallara/rail or Karta/rail.. youll need a feeedneck tho, as the ones on the micromag are not angel threaded, if removeable at all (depending on what year you have). everything else *should* just swap over.

[blakdragon21]

Wait so you could actually put the dallara body and rail on a micro ptp emag??

[nicad]

sorry.. the dallara's rail is that of an AM/MM... which will not work properly with an Emag setup. ya got me on that one!

[nicad]

ok heres that different variant on the Karta rail design from Arowmic.. I think i like it better than the one in the first posts..

***edit- these are the same design now as the ones inthe first post. they have been updated. links still provided for those who reeeeaaalllly wanna see a red version. :-p

http://deadlywind.com/karta/latest_with_grip_v2rail1.jpg

and

http://deadlywind.com/karta/latest_with_grip_v2rail2.jpg

out!

[FooTemps]

I have a really big one if anyone wants to see it now that nicad released the pictures himself.

I think you'll like mine too if you like this one nicad... but that's only if i finish before you produce! lol

[Strider]

Originally posted by nicad
ok heres that different variant on the Karta rail design from Arowmic.. I think i like it better than the one in the first posts..YES, thats much better!

[LittlePaintballBoy]

Originally posted by nicad
ok heres that different variant on the Karta rail design from Arowmic.. I think i like it better than the one in the first posts..



out!

Oooooooh, ahhhhhhhhhhh. I LOVE IT!

[Remington]

Originally posted by nicad
ok heres that different variant on the Karta rail design from Arowmic.. I think i like it better than the one in the first posts..

But the real question is, is it easier to make(thus cheaper for the consumer)? ;) Both look really nice in my opinion. :D

[nicad]

Price!!

unless the magic pixie-faerie dust falls somehow, I would expect the Karta to be no less than the Dallara.. especially seeing as how the Emag rail is more expensive to start off with, and theres more surface area to mill/polish on it.

but.. who knows. I have some slugs and an emag rail on the way, so I should be getting a first run done soon and figure out what the final cost will be.

out!

[Dueydog]

Great work. I have shown it to many and they love it. Expect a big demand. Besides, if it is around $240, that's only $50 more than a ULE body $150 and rail milling $40.
Later,
Matt

[rikkter]

Originally posted by RenagadeOfFunkRTPcf

also....I would need to purchase a e-mag rail so huch much for rail and body? (its just a question once you find out prices)
he said no less than the dallara.:rolleyes: ;)
plus they're not even finished so no price. he said that too:p

[Halo2x]

Nicad, your body is Pure Sexyness;)

[nicad]

edited first post to reflect newer updated pics.

[Bolter]

very nice bodies!! They look really light!! Any warp ones coming out?

[FooTemps]

Originally posted by Bolter
very nice bodies!! They look really light!! Any warp ones coming out?

There won't be any warp sluggos coming out for a bit... :(

[Duke Henry]

Originally posted by FooTemps


There won't be any warp sluggos coming out for a bit... :(

Which is a darn shame. Some of us warp users would like to get a nice looking ULE body...

[Top Secret]

I'm lovin the new revision! Can't wait till they're availible.

[FooTemps]

I really want AGD to come out with a sluggo rail... That'd make life so much easier... I've been working on the same design for 4 days and I can't draw it right with only like .2 inches to actually mill!

[sneakyhacker420]

hot damn! thats secksy!

[Dueydog]

I already have two sold for you.
Matt

[Dueydog]

Hey,
I had an idea. What about milling three finger wide spaces in the battery pack from one side wrapping around to the other thus creating grips and leave it raw so it would like like an E on the sides? It would give it a black and silver look and would give something more to hold on at the same time. Might look great with a raw milled rail and save a bit of weight. Would that be hard, how long and how much would you estimate? I think that would be an awesome look with your amazing body and rail combo. The battery cover is the biggest, flatest and plain pieces on the gun. I would send a picture if I knew how.
Let me know,
Matt

[headcase]

Are you baseing the rail milling off the current AGD E-mag rail? I assume yes, but I wasn't sure if there was a change somewhere that would cause a problem like with the Dallaras

[Person]

Why dont you fellas get really creative and make an imbetted body rail, its not that hard, and it will look super duper neeto torpedo....prolly weigh like 2 oz less too!

[rikkter]

Originally posted by Person
Why dont you fellas get really creative and make an imbetted body rail, its not that hard, and it will look super duper neeto torpedo....prolly weigh like 2 oz less too!

read the thread. yes all of it. lol its been mention, and hes given his answer on that too;)

[headcase]

Originally posted by Person
Why dont you fellas get really creative and make an imbetted body rail, its not that hard, and it will look super duper neeto torpedo....prolly weigh like 2 oz less too!

here is Nicad's comment


a body/rail combo would be optimal.. however getting a base to start with is the problem. There are some who make their own body/rails from scratch... but as for modifying existing professionaly made bodies, your limited to pretty much Xmag base or PTP Micromag base.

The slug on a rail affords a semi-cost effictive solution to customizing and it is actually easier to access areas of it for milling.

Basicaly it's a lot cheaper to start with something than nothing

[FooTemps]

Headcase is right. The emag rail has like nothing to mill. :( sluggo rail please! Makes it a lot easier to design something.

[Dubstar112]

It would be cool to see a collaboration of products between AGD and nicad. Although unlikley..

But to offer an in house complete custom emag. Karta rail/body setup + AGD ULE frame(or nicad's if he makes one) and a valve all factory supported by AGD.. :)

It looks good though.

[nicad]

Got #001 off the mill just this last week. rikkter spoke up first and said he will take it.. so he picked it up here at Tx Throwdown, and hes the proud owner.

heres a coupla shots of it.. in living color!

http://www.deadlywind.com/karta/real1.jpg

http://www.deadlywind.com/karta/real2.jpg

out!

[Southpaw]

WOW WOW WOW!!!! I cant wat to get some $$$$

[fire1811]

holy balls
thats sweet

[headcase]

That's great looking.

As soon as I finish my mech project(about a month) I'll definately take one off your hands.

[tony3]

It's ok, I think it'll look hott on a gun, but no so by itself

[FalconGuy016]

Thats ridiculous... how can you make stuff that nice?!?!?!

[lopxtc]

Wow ... whats the price? I may have to build a mag just because of this body.

Aaron

[MoBiLe]

any pics on an emag yet?

[Strider]

Invoke Neo Mode
Woa!
De-Invoke Neo Mode

:D :D :D

[Creative Mayhem]

OH......... MAH........... GAWD............!!!!

Now if only i had an emag..... :( Damn Xmag ;)

[Snertz]

GAG HoLY BUCKUS?!?!

[headcase]

Originally posted by Creative Mayhem
OH......... MAH........... GAWD............!!!!

Now if only i had an emag..... :( Damn Xmag ;)

Hee, Hee....I've had an X, and I'm building my X killer around this body :)

[Duke Henry]

Man, if I had a vert feed I would definately pick this up. It is SWEEEEET!

(patiently waits for a warp version in 2004...)

[Creative Mayhem]

Originally posted by headcase


Hee, Hee....I've had an X, and I'm building my X killer around this body :)

I would too, but im waiting on the warp slugs.... HURRY UP TOM!!!! :D

[Dueydog]

Thanks,
Matt

[rikkter]

JUST got home from plane.

well, i love this thing. everyone who knew what it was at the Texas Throwdown loved it too.
mad props to you and your boys Colin

but! pictures! sorry, they're very crappy, i'll take better ones as soon as i get a feedneck for it(thanks for letting me borrow yours Colin, i gave it to Curtis), i'll take better pictures outside.
http://www.rikkter.com/junk/karta.jpg
http://www.rikkter.com/junk/karta2.jpg
http://www.rikkter.com/junk/karta3.jpg
http://www.rikkter.com/junk/karta4.jpg
http://www.rikkter.com/junk/karta5.jpg

[headcase]

Very cool.

FYI Colin just got back to me, and the bodies are not quiet ready for release. Apparentely there are some bugs in the process that need to be worked out.

[nicad]

theres not exactly bugs.. but there are a few very minor changes which will result in some tweaking/testing to go before more are made..

glad ya like it Rikkter! good to meet ya too.
Hows the 3.2 working?

[rikkter]

Originally posted by nicad

glad ya like it Rikkter! good to meet ya too.
Hows the 3.2 working?

oh i love it lol
as for 3.2, need to work on my walking the trigger more, i got a very quick burst one time that was insanely fast, but i can't do it again. but i've only noticed i that in hybrid theres a big difference.
oh, another difference was that ihad to buy another half case of paint.

edit:

better pictures now:
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1175281#post1175281

[headcase]

Originally posted by nicad
theres not exactly bugs.. but there are a few very minor changes which will result in some tweaking/testing to go before more are made..


My bad...............

it's all the same to me though, I just can't wait until the bodies are ready for release.

It will go nice with my Dallara :)

[Dragonfd3s]

I'll prepay you for one... I sent you a PM a day or so ago and I'm not afraid to wait till you get it the way you want it, I just want to know I'm at the top of the list.. :D Get back with me please..

Chris

[Bad_Knees]

Colin,

If we already have a stock rail would that affect the price of the body and rail? Sorry if this was mentioned already but my tired eyes missed it...Thanks!

BK

[jayloo]

The Karta body is sweeeeeeet.

[jayloo]

I am holding $ for a karta body. Can I be next on your list? How much and how long is the wait. Can I prepay?

I tried 2 pm'd u but your box is full.

Jayloo

[nicad]

If you send in your own Emag rail, I will take off $35.

I should be starting a new thread in here and/or in the dealers area with most all these details closer to when these become available.

I cleaned out a lot of my inbox-- sorry to those who got rejected there. you can also always email me through here or directly to colin at deadlywind dot com (sorry been getting a lot of spam lately.. trying to reduce the apperance of an email address. your a human, you can figure out how to send it correctly. :) )

out!

[paintballer7_7_7]

I havent really looked through the whole thread but i am going to ask the question anyways. Do you know how heavy this new body is going to be? Because if it is for the E-mag it should be made light otherwise it might now get good marketing even though it does look SWEEEETTTTT!!!!!

[Treefall25]

hey nicad do u have a release date (sorry i didn't feel like readin the 5 pages if its in there) because i wanna when i should sell my ule and rail. i can't wait till these come out. thanx

[rikkter]

Originally posted by paintballer7_7_7
I havent really looked through the whole thread but i am going to ask the question anyways. Do you know how heavy this new body is going to be? Because if it is for the E-mag it should be made light otherwise it might now get good marketing even though it does look SWEEEETTTTT!!!!!

its pretty light. i can't give you exact weight cause i dont have a scale to do that..
the rail isn't milled in the middle to be ULE so(least mine wasn't), doing that will make it even lighter.

you will notice a incrediable difference with this body in weight. its so much lighter than when i had the old stainless steal no-rise on my emag.. i picked someones stock emag up, basically which mine was, and wow. bigggg difference.

[headcase]

Originally posted by rikkter


its pretty light. i can't give you exact weight cause i dont have a scale to do that..
the rail isn't milled in the middle to be ULE so(least mine wasn't), doing that will make it even lighter.


I wouldn't bet on the final version's rail being ULE'd. My only reason for thinking that is because the Dallara Body/Rail package doesn't have the ULE'd rail.

As an FYI my Dallara rail weighted around 1/2 an oz less than stock before being ULE'd

[rikkter]

Originally posted by headcase


I wouldn't bet on the final version's rail being ULE'd. My only reason for thinking that is because the Dallara Body/Rail package doesn't have the ULE'd rail.


hence my post..

[hitech]

I take it these are not ready yet? The wife is asking for xmas suggestions, and a polished black warp body would be nice... :D

[nicad]

karta update-
there will be some available in the next few days..
have some weights too:
STOCK Emag rail: 7.1oz

Karta rail (based on Emag rail): 5.6oz
Karta body: 4.3oz

out for now..

[headcase]

Originally posted by nicad
karta update-
there will be some available in the next few days..
have some weights too:
STOCK Emag rail: 7.1oz

Karta rail (based on Emag rail): 5.6oz
Karta body: 4.3oz

out for now..

So Nicad can I send my info now? :)

[headcase]

Thanks NiCad, it's rough remembering real/Screen Names isn't it? :P

[nicad]

OK I believe I have contaceted everyone who was wanting to "be in line" for the first ones of these.. I still will have one, *maybe* two Kartas which are not spoken for. If I didnt contact you and you were wanting to get one of the first, please email me colin@deadlywind.com asap.

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[Digits]

nevermind.. lol..

You have any left.. ? I'm debating whether to pimp out my current mag, or get something like this and make an e-mag..

[magman234]

i am not sure if it has been said but i have searched the whole thread for it and i can not seem to find the price, would someone be able to tell me it and could it work on a mech mag which also might not have been said. thanks

[nicad]

official Karta price is right at $300. Thats the body + emag rail + dual AGD ball detents.

I can get them anodized to a single base color for about $40 extra.. takes about a week extra.

Ill be putting a thread up in the dealers seciotn and linking to it from here once i get the first batch finished and polished up for pics.. which will be about a week or two.

out!

[Blennidae]

Will you be offering a discount for those who have a rail they can supply?

[nicad]

Yes, I can take off $35 if you send in your own rail.

[Dragonfd3s]

Just wanted to make sure you got my $.. :D and in Red please.. :cool:

Thanks,
chris

[nicad]

Chris-
Yes I did.

The red I can do is really a burgendy.. almost the same as the 2k1 1.5 Dark Angle "blood red"..
slightly poor picture, but you can get the idea of red.
http://www.robagd.com/capo/20.jpg
and
http://www.deadlywind.com/wc2k3/from%20colin/10250003.JPG

out!

[Dragonfd3s]

Originally posted by nicad
Chris-
Yes I did.

The red I can do is really a burgendy.. almost the same as the 2k1 1.5 Dark Angle "blood red"..
slightly poor picture, but you can get the idea of red.
http://www.robagd.com/capo/20.jpg
and
http://www.deadlywind.com/wc2k3/from%20colin/10250003.JPG

out!

Dammit, after much deliberation and a hour of staring at the color chart you sent me I've decided to let you choose between blue and red... :cool: Pic the one that you think looks like it has the sexiest look and finish to it and I'll build the gun around that color... ;) In other words surprise me and post pic's of it here once it's done so I can drool over it in anticipation of it getting here... :p

[Duke Henry]

Let us know when the next batch is available...

[Dragonfd3s]

So, how's the progress going.. :D Any chance you can make a blade type trigger but add a little bit of sex to it? I was thinking somthing will little ridges horizontally across the finger area to grip and some kind of round out curves or somthng on the sided wrapping around the back to round it off in the rear...

[nicad]

pics of the first batch:

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1220007

out!

[nicad]

in Blue... (pictures just DONT do justice...)
http://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=1232011

out!

[Duke Henry]

I am curious to know if there are any restrictions on anno for these babies.

I have pretty much locked in a choice to buy one from the next batch, but was hoping to get a fade done. If memory serves me correctly, only a single colour anno can be purchased with a Karta, unless we get the anno done by someone else right?

Also, I must reiterate that you MUST post when you take orders for batch #2.

[Dragonfd3s]

Would that be mine... :D

[nicad]

yes this is Dragonfd3s's body. DAM it looks good. :)

Duke Henry- you are correct in regards to the anodizing.

I am having to re-structure slightly how I take orders and how the "batches" are handled.
Lets just say Im hoping to have quite a few available in the near future so any one can purchase one at most any time.

[Dragonfd3s]

Droooool! :D
I got serial #002

Still waiting on the rest of the parts I've got on order, but here is the RT Pro with lvl 10 and Ule trigger kit with my Rogue clamping feed neak, Karta body, Dye grips and MPM P-stock from england... My blue to black fade Pipe barrel kit and my front gip and other parts should be here with in the next week or so..

[Dragonfd3s]

#2

[nicad]

w. o. w. :eek:

Dragonfd3s- Can I have it back???? hehh
that looks dam good.

[PsychoBaller]

Karta body be awesome.
Though... Nicad yo, RED style, get a body anno'd red... its the hotness,
-also, wuts ur Official word on battery packs for the future... im leading a movement for Battery Pack options, lol, even if it is a speculation, wus going on?

werrrdd,
-baller

[Berean]

WOW! That's an amazing body.

Dragonfd3s are you sayin' that body has the RTPro stuff in it? is this body compatible with an RTPro setup? That's so stinkin' gorgeous!

Nicad, do you have a web site with all the specs and color options and such listed? I read the whole post, and maybe I missed it, or the 6:00 am hour is just messin' with my eyes (haven't been to sleep yet).

[Dragonfd3s]

Yep, everything in the RT Pro will fit except for the front mount/grip since there aren't any holes for it. I'm just going to drill and tap what I need to make a grip extender fit on the bottom of the rail etc.. I'll post more pic's once I get it done some time the end of next week. I'm pretty sure he could mill a RT Pro rail if you wanted him to so you could use the stock RT mounting system....


Originally posted by Berean
WOW! That's an amazing body.

Dragonfd3s are you sayin' that body has the RTPro stuff in it? is this body compatible with an RTPro setup? That's so stinkin' gorgeous!

Nicad, do you have a web site with all the specs and color options and such listed? I read the whole post, and maybe I missed it, or the 6:00 am hour is just messin' with my eyes (haven't been to sleep yet).

[Gadget]

Nicad - would a Karta body fit ok on a standard E-Mag rail? If so, what would just the body alone cost and any chance of a pic of a Karta/std rail combo?

Thanks.

[nicad]

Gadget- Yes it will fit, and it actually looks not too bad. :) I think I have some shots of that setup around here somehere.. if I come across them I'll be sure to post them.

Cost of a Karta body alone would be $225 (yes the rail adds a lot)

but for now, how about a black Karta/rail with DL milling on the rail? forgot to add: this setup weighs in around 7.3 - 7.4 oz.

http://www.deadlywind.com/karta/karta-on-ule3.jpg

http://www.deadlywind.com/karta/karta-on-ule2.jpg

http://www.deadlywind.com/karta/karta-on-ule1.jpg

out!

[fire1811]

:eek: wow

[rikkter]

i simply can't get over how beautiful these things are

[nicad]

OK finally got a "purchasing" thread up.. so for all the mushy info on getting one of these, head on over to: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123344

out!

[Fuji]

I thought that body/UL rail combo looked familiar. ;) I'd put pics of it up with my emag setup, but my battery and grip frame are litghly scratched up and really stand out now that I have a wonderfully shiny body.

BTW, this looks freaking insane with a no-rise clamping feed on it. I hope to come out to the Tex-ball game to pimp the 'mag. :D