I guess the new ads are out

[Miscue]

I about blew my protein shake out my nose when this caught me off guard.

http://www.automags.org/~Miscue/nicebody.jpg

How come these pics are like 1/4 MB?

[Dayspring]

There's a joke in there...

I'll just be polite and NOT say it.;)



Originally posted by Miscue
I about blew my protein shake out my nose when this caught me off guard.

http://www.automags.org/~Miscue/nicebody.jpg

How come these pics are like 1/4 MB?

[Miscue]

Originally posted by Dayspring
There's a joke in there...

I'll just be polite and NOT say it.;)




:confused:

[Dayspring]

blew


protein shake


2+2=?

[Miscue]

Urm. No... Mr. Mind-in-Gutter. :)

I drink protein shakes 1-2 times a day, I was being literal. :p

[Miscue]

/me notices that there are other threads on the same subject... as was pointed out by Gunga. Whoops. :D

[speedyejl]

Personally I think it would be nice if the adds were kept to under 125pixels in height. They mess with the layout too much. Either that or have them on the top of the screen to the left of Clare.

Also they can get compressed down to 18k with no visible degration in quality. Thats webmasters call though

Regardless they look damn good

[JEDI]

New ads with Clare half naked, and STILL no Clare action posters. :( :confused: What gives?

[datapimp69]

hye it moved to the other side :0

[Miscue]

Originally posted by datapimp69
hye it moved to the other side :0

Yeah, and there's a few new ads just put in past half hour.

Gremlins!

[dansim]

and lost its edge....

[FalconGuy016]

Originally posted by datapimp69
hye it moved to the other side :0

Hey! Yeah it did! It moved to the other side! Its screwing with the forum buttons, stop it!

[pito189]

Nice, they are plenty big for people to notice. :) Guess I will get used to it. I hope they change all the time, and don't stay the same for like a year.

[Tron]

People just get used to them and they lose their effectiveness in no time and are pretty much just drains on bandwidth.

-Tron

[Vendetta]

I wonder if these ads make the website easier the write off as advertising? Kind of silly to preach to the choir.

[pito189]

Originally posted by Vendetta
I wonder if these ads make the website easier the write off as advertising? Kind of silly to preach to the choir.

If you ever look at the Who's Online (http://www.automags.org/forums/online.php?) thing, you can see all the Guests visiting the site. It's not preaching to the choir. More people come here then just the ones with accounts.

[FalconGuy016]

They... just...need to add... >br< ... ahhh!!! I cant stand it messing with the forum bar

[trevorjk]

meh i like those bodies to especsially the furry one being held by that beast :D

[sneakyhacker420]

i could understand 468x60 banners along the top, but these are just gigantic... these are becoming a nuisance to scroll down even more... :o


oh well, whatever it takes to keep AGD Alive http://www.automags.org/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[FalconGuy016]

<img src="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/141103-AOnono.jpg">

This JUST happened too, I mean it was fine the first time I saw the things, they were under it

[Sooky]

Yeah, they look good, but they are a little bit too big. Its like having to see a big sig image all the time.

[pito189]

That would be hillarious if one of the mods took it out, and in it's place put the text "sig image to large".

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by JEDI
New ads with Clare half naked, and STILL no Clare action posters. :( :confused: What gives?

I agree...

What gives?

Where are the half-naked action posters?!

[p8ntball1016]

Originally posted by Jack &amp; Coke


I agree...

What gives?

Where are the half-naked action posters?! we demand half naked action posters!

[Jack & Coke]

viva la HNAP!:D

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

Um, 'cue, dayspring, I get what you were hinting at to begin with but if your mind is in the gutter think of what family of animals a lion is in... like what household pet it is related too, then let the dirty mind finish the thought pattern. Way too many subliminal messages in this ad considering the risque nature of it already. :)

A female paintball gear model who actually knows how to play too? Scary.... I think Capo should convince all the SP girls to play 5 on 1 against her and just bunker the hell out of them (with a mechanical mag too for a little extra insult). Now that would get AGD noticed.

[p8ntball1016]

i wish i was the stuffed tiger in that pic.:(

[xrancid_milkx]

Originally posted by p8ntball1016
i wish i was the stuffed tiger in that pic.:(

You and me both my friend, you and me both.....








:D

[Miscue]

Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY
Um, 'cue, dayspring, I get what you were hinting at to begin with but if your mind is in the gutter...

Dude, I hinted at nothing. I didn't take into consideration the possible alternate meanings... until Dayspring pointed it out. :rolleyes:

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

Miscue, I apologize and absolve you of all allegations of sinful thoughts. Dayspring, sorry, you're still guilty of them.:D

[Wrathchild]

They are very prettyful!


**Edit - Especially the one with Clare.. hehe.

[dinger]

i love the slogans in the pics hehe

nice bodies
still waiting for gravity [my fav haha]

and all those other cool things :)

Good Job whoever made those :D

[Miscue]

Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY
Miscue, I apologize and absolve you of all allegations of sinful thoughts.

Absolve me of my sinful thoughts? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Don't you dare! I like my sinful thoughts, leave them be.

[mag-hatter]

wow im sure glad that the paintball community is mature enough to look at women respectably......wait a minute.....i just lied :rolleyes: its a girl not meat you pock marked 50 and 12 year old dumpster divers.

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

I absolved you of this dirty allegation Miscue, but you're stuck with the others.. enjoy your daily "protein" :D

mag-hatter I'm glad to see everyone in the paintball community has a sense of humor too.. wait, you don't. chill. She's lying half naked with a paintball gun and a pussycat, and she's not using intellect to advertise the Mag. Claire is a well-respected member here and a clear icon of beauty for the company. She know we're just playing around. And I'm sure you never look at the women in Stuff, Maxim, etc, etc... And veryone is not either a kid or an old guy, Miscue and I are both in our 20's. Nice stereotype there bud.

Don't like the thread, take a walk... we're just having some fun and there are plenty of others for you to act pompous in.

Anyways, off the soapbox now. I think these ads do look cool, I would be interested in seeing the same idea but in a different setting, most of the Claire shots are with the white background and does look cool here but a little "sterile" (oh boy that could open up another can of worms) and adding color and attitude to the next ads would work well. Great stuff though. Doubt the HNAP photos are happening though, sorry guys

[Jack & Coke]

ttt 4 HNAP !:D

[trevorjk]

hey i can get HNAP of my self :) you would all love that now wouldnt you haha just picture it and drool :D

[mag-hatter]

Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY

mag-hatter I'm glad to see everyone in the paintball community has a sense of humor too.. wait, you don't. chill. She's lying half naked with a paintball gun and a pussycat, and she's not using intellect to advertise the Mag. Claire is a well-respected member here and a clear icon of beauty for the company. She know we're just playing around. And I'm sure you never look at the women in Stuff, Maxim, etc, etc

would it supprise you that i dont look at those magazines? it it human nature for males to drool over women but is it wrong to fight this natural occurance out of respect for the other sex? do other people see a well respected member of the paintball society or a "hottie" strutting her stuff to make a few $'s? answer that correctly and you get a cookie. you people should be ashamed you've worn yourselves accustomed to this kind of mentality that it is "ok" to use one's body for marketing reasons and dont you dare tell me that you dressed her up that way simply because it looks "neat" and gives the ULE body a better look. no one is looking at the ULE's.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by mag-hatter


would it supprise you that i dont look at those magazines? it it human nature for males to drool over women but is it wrong to fight this natural occurance out of respect for the other sex? do other people see a well respected member of the paintball society or a "hottie" strutting her stuff to make a few $'s? answer that correctly and you get a cookie. you people should be ashamed you've worn yourselves accustomed to this kind of mentality that it is "ok" to use one's body for marketing reasons and dont you dare tell me that you dressed her up that way simply because it looks "neat" and gives the ULE body a better look. no one is looking at the ULE's.

I don't either.

As far as girls in general posing for pictures... they have a choice in how they present themselves. It is voluntary, not forced. If they are presented as a piece of meat, that was their choice to do so - I personally don't believe anyone would be so naive as to not realize what sort of reactions they would get... and claimed 'innocence' is horse puckey.

The person in a photo can choose to take a picture like this (although it probably won't be used to market something towards young males):
<img src="http://daisyland.tierranet.com/hepburn/images/ah2_16.jpg">

or can choose to take a picture like this (the type of picture that could be used to market something to young males):
<img src="http://fallingaway.com/down/images/chicks/elin_grindemyr2.jpg">

I personally have no sympathy for those who <B>choose</B> to be in pictures more similar to the second one than the first.

I prefer the first picture over the second. I love Audrey. :p

[FalconGuy016]

She looks like a really hot chipmunk

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

I do agree with you Miscue, and do agree that I would find a girl like the first more attractive myself, but you can't deny that a large portion of America prefers the second and if that type of imagery is the most effective in marketing, companies should use it and it's people's freedom to prefer it. It is their choice to do so and guy's preference to prefer it which is why it is popular. And it is not just paintball, this is mild compared to other industries including the automobile industry and even your day-to-day tv. Reality shows sicken me these days, esp. the bachelor-like ones. That is our society today and I am sure Tom Kaye didn't tell Claire to do it or lose sponsorship, it most likely was her decision.

If maghatter had made his point by just saying he disagrees with the pics because it might give the wrong image of AGD and a more tasteful image should be used to make the company stand out as more noble and tasteful, I would have respected that whether I agreed with him or not. But his remarks were condescending, sterotypical, really didn't serve much purpose besides being an insult to us, and just makes him out to be a forum troll. Claire's pic hints on racey but is definitely not as tasteless as the other pics you see day-to-day. If you disagree, definitely voice your opinion you have as much right as everyone else here does, but try to aim it at the topic and not make it a cheap shot on the other people in the thread.

[Miscue]

I agree with everything you said.

That's exactly the point... the second picture appeals to the masses - making it better for marketing. I think Clare's pics are tasteful and slightly racy... which made me somewhat confused when "meat" and that sort of thing came up. So my comments really had to do more with "meat" pictures in general, which I suppose was the issue that was brought up - although still not sure why.

[Clare]

Guys, the pic really isn't that racy. It's just made to appear that way. I am perfectly aware of what comes with posing for pictures of that nature and I have to say that it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I don't take anything that is said personally and I'm never offended.

:)

[Miscue]

Not even offended by foul odors? Wow! :D

[Clare]

Sometimes. :p

[Jonno06]

(look at the message icon.)

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

Thank you capo, one thing I am very happy to see is woman players such as yourself get more exposure (and I didn't mean the pun till I typed it) now and be recognized for both your looks as well as your abilities. I can't stand the women posing who have no clue what they are advertising as they are not about the sport, only making a buck for showing off their goods. You're representing AGD well and something like this is positive for the paintball community, it is a comfortable medium between T+A pics and pics of guys in camo. We could have you dress in a full-body oldschool dress for when AGD's ads starting running in Iraqi Weekly and Knitting Illustrated but for now I think this pic is tasteful enough for the masses.

[Steelrat]

Man, that looks like like Audrey Hepburn in that B&W photo. She was just plain gorgeous, IMHO. Classy AND beautiful.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by Steelrat
Man, that looks like like Audrey Hepburn in that B&W photo. She was just plain gorgeous, IMHO. Classy AND beautiful.

Yeah... it's easy to just fall in love with her, ain't it. She was brilliant, talented, and a remarkable humanitarian. It's too bad she had cancer, I would like to have met her.

[trevorjk]

capo what if i picked my nose and whipped it on your cat? would you be offended?

i know how to offend lots of people just choose not to. i think the pictures are border line edgy but when the mass of people look at paintball they think danger xtreme and what goes better with those then a model with curves? i think the capo posters perfectly fit the outside perception of paintball

[mag-hatter]

Originally posted by Miscue


I don't either.

As far as girls in general posing for pictures... they have a choice in how they present themselves. It is voluntary, not forced. If they are presented as a piece of meat, that was their choice to do so - I personally don't believe anyone would be so naive as to not realize what sort of reactions they would get... and claimed 'innocence' is horse puckey.

The person in a photo can choose to take a picture like this (although it probably won't be used to market something towards young males):
<img src="http://daisyland.tierranet.com/hepburn/images/ah2_16.jpg">

or can choose to take a picture like this (the type of picture that could be used to market something to young males):
<img src="http://fallingaway.com/down/images/chicks/elin_grindemyr2.jpg">

I personally have no sympathy for those who <B>choose</B> to be in pictures more similar to the second one than the first.

I prefer the first picture over the second. I love Audrey. :p

yeah they have their right to post as a piece of meat but i have a right to say that i dont think that its moral WETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT which is my main point.


If maghatter had made his point by just saying he disagrees with the pics because it might give the wrong image of AGD and a more tasteful image should be used to make the company stand out as more noble and tasteful, I would have respected that whether I agreed with him or not. But his remarks were condescending, sterotypical, really didn't serve much purpose besides being an insult to us, and just makes him out to be a forum troll. Claire's pic hints on racey but is definitely not as tasteless as the other pics you see day-to-day. If you disagree, definitely voice your opinion you have as much right as everyone else here does, but try to aim it at the topic and not make it a cheap shot on the other people in the thread.

i dont really see how i was going around slashing throats and headbutting other members, i was simply voicing my opinion that that picture isn't just to show a "respected member in the paintball world," it is used to sell using sex appeal and don't say it doesnt. believe it or not, not many people know who clare is and when they see that picture its just "another model" to them, not some ledgendary awesome paintballer.

[Mango]

Hey guys...seriously..who cares!? They are nice pictures. Nice to look at. Yeah. :cool: So let it go!! :p

[Miscue]

Originally posted by SprayingMango
Hey guys...seriously..who cares!? They are nice pictures. Nice to look at. Yeah. :cool: So let it go!! :p

Word!

[sneakyhacker420]

w3rd!


but mango, they are big pictures that get away from the previous forum bar thingy

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

word... and simple solution to the display, put two right next to each other and move the forum bar down. Two shots of claire, who is going to complain about that? :D

[*ArKfEaR*]

Aren't ads suppose to cater to people who don't know about the products?

I mean, if not mostly everyone knows about every single one of those products here, hence automags.org.
They are cool and all but the goal is to get other people to find out the products.

Like if you were to get some of the ads to go on PbNation or the ads in a magazine it would make sense.

Never-the-less they look pretty cool. Kind of annoying though because of the size and all...

[Fixion]

Can we use this as a sig?
http://www.automags.org/~Miscue/nicebody.jpg

[LoveMyMagMoreThanYou]

Originally posted by Miscue


The person in a photo can choose to take a picture like this (although it probably won't be used to market something towards young males):

or can choose to take a picture like this (the type of picture that could be used to market something to young males):
:p

I prefer to think of paintball as a "family" game and I don't think that the women in the sport want to see products advertised with naked/half-naked women as eye candy. I think that the paintball community has shifted too far to the sexual side of things. There are just too many products out there with sexual overtones. Ask yourself this, if your daughter wants to play paintball, do you want her to be forced to walk into a store and order a Stiffi with a condom? I don't. I think that is what Mag-hatter is trying to convey.

[xrancid_milkx]

You know these new banners really work in creating interest. I put the banner in my Paintball.com sig earlier today and have already recieved 2 pm's from interested members who saw the banners in my sig and wanted to know more about the products.

And I haven't been told its too big, so I plan on keeping it there, kind of a "helping hand" if you will.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by xrancid_milkx
You know these new banners really work in creating interest. I put the banner in my Paintball.com sig earlier today and have already recieved 2 pm's from interested members who saw the banners in my sig and wanted to know more about the products.

And I haven't been told its too big, so I plan on keeping it there, kind of a "helping hand" if you will.

Hey, that's a good idea. Maybe I'll put them in my sigs from other forums.

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

Lovemymag, I do see your point but there really has been a great shift in the type of people playing and a large adolescent and young adult crowd exists that is more interest in that type of imagery, and most manufacturers in any industry are forced to cater to what the customer wants or else risk losing the business to a manufacturer who is willing to cater to it. I see AGD as being family-acceptable but they would be fools to totally ignore this adolescent population, the same people who XMags are geared towards. Their recent metamorphasis has the company being aimed towards the tournament scene, and that scene is definitely family oriented. I can't even stand being around the stereotypical tourney player that are more and more common. But they are the ones spending the most money so they ARE the market and need to be catered to. Thats how all industries work.

[Beemer]

Originally posted by CaPoEiRa
Guys, the pic really isn't that racy. It's just made to appear that way.

http://home.comcast.net/~ineedspeednow/Clare_SxS_1.jpg

[p8ntball1016]

Originally posted by CaPoEiRa
Guys, the pic really isn't that racy. It's just made to appear that way. I am perfectly aware of what comes with posing for pictures of that nature and I have to say that it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I don't take anything that is said personally and I'm never offended.

:) it dont bother us either;)

[mag-hatter]

Originally posted by Beemer
Originally posted by CaPoEiRa
Guys, the pic really isn't that racy. It's just made to appear that way.

http://home.comcast.net/~ineedspeednow/Clare_SxS_1.jpg

oh so that thong sticking out isnt anything.....i hope you never become a parent. same with you quincymass.......you are just proving me right with the fact that most people have become blind to things like this. i dont CARE if "everyone else is doing it" and that "it helps marketing" because there are other ways to sell crap besides putting a half naked girl on there that has NOTHING to do with the damn product!

[GA Devil]

Hey maghatter what about the "race riot revolution" and the dancing hitler in your sig. Posted everytime you post. Dont you think that is offensive to some but yet you still have it there? I think before you get on your soap box you should take a long look in the mirror. Seeing that little strap on the side is no different then a girls bikini or seeing a bra strap at the neck of a shirt. Are they wrong for that happening too?

[Mango]

Maghatter: Seriously dude, you need to just let it go. I honestly dont CARE if it gets you worked up and I doubt anyone else does either. So you are just getting all bent out of shape over nothing. Just calm down and enjoy the advertisements for what they are.

And I totally agree with GA Devil.

[LoveMyMagMoreThanYou]

Originally posted by SprayingMango
Maghatter: Seriously dude, you need to just let it go. I honestly dont CARE if it gets you worked up and I doubt anyone else does either. So you are just getting all bent out of shape over nothing. Just calm down and enjoy the advertisements for what they are.

And I totally agree with GA Devil.

You obviously didn't read my post. I care that the companies that I want to support feel like they have to sell their products in this way. I know it happens "everywhere else." But that doesn't mean that I want it to happen in places where I felt it was unnecessary. The paintball industry grew at a phenomenal pace before this advertising and sinking to this level is unnecessary. I admit that the AGD ad is tame by comparison, but should I wait until they put full nudes to complain? I know some would relish full nude ads but I just don't think that they NEED them. Show the athletes in action.....or standing in full gear endorsing the product. Now that my point is out there, I'll stop........unless something infuriates me.

[Mango]

Originally posted by LoveMyMagMoreThanYou


You obviously didn't read my post.

Yes I did read it. :rolleyes:

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

Maghatter, if seeing that much skin actually offends you, you need to stay off beaches, out of clubs, and frankly off the streets during summer because you;re going to be offended beyond belief. Your average college-age girl outside of a nunnery wear outfits where a thong may show like that, a low top, etc. Hell, XMen comics from 5-10 years back when I stopped reading them showed way more than that all the time. Or do you prefer all the kids dressing gothic like they do these years? It has been the decision of the society to approve of this type of appearance and you have the choice to agree or not, but sitting there and saying because we agree with it that we can't raise kids right, you're only proving that you're overreactng. This is why ratings exist, FCC rules regarding what can be seen on general TV, etc. This pic follows all guidelines which were created by the majority of americans agreeing with them so by the cultural standards agreed on by the clear majority of americans, this is fine. If you have an issue, buy a soapbox, go stand out in the middle of NY city, and preach it to the thousands of people that walk by because you basically need to change all of society's beliefs to have an effect. And if society approving of this sickens you, you need to accept it is either an American right to publish and view this material, or consider moving into a retirement home where you might find more people who agree with you.

[trevorjk]

hey i can still get HNAP of me!!!! that will calm everyone down haha

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

sadly, no, I think you'd get a bunch of "thats not proper" posts and the argument would start again...

but I wouldn't have a problem with it... :D

[LoveMyMagMoreThanYou]

Originally posted by SprayingMango


Yes I did read it. :rolleyes:

Just call me Nobody.

On the subject of the masses deciding that nude women selling paintball products is "OK", so if we disagree with the masses, we're supposed to shut up? I thought this was a message board!?! This is a soapbox. You might get me to agree that we are off of the original topic, but this can of worms has been opened.

[GA Devil]

Just let it go. Go play the sims online or something

[Wrathchild]

Originally posted by mag-hatter


oh so that thong sticking out isnt anything.....




I didnt notice the thong... Thanks for pointing it out? Not. You are a sick sad man for noticing it, hehe. Anyways, the photo is tasteful. Look at the "Stiffi" slogans, shut up now.

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

OK, here is my final statement, after it I'm done with this dumb argument and yes, it's way off topic.

Preach all you want, but don't make the kinds of comments maghatter did to start the argument. State your point, don't rip into us for liking something that is socially acceptable. Just accept our view, we'll accept yours. But watch how you present it, because how he did it was lame. And it is a forum, so feel free to ramble, but just understand it's old now and most of us in THIS thread don't care to hear it anymore. Start your own and talk about how racy imagery is wrong if you're really so obsessed about it.

OK, done arguing this

[JEDI]

Originally posted by CaPoEiRa
Guys, the pic really isn't that racy. It's just made to appear that way. I am perfectly aware of what comes with posing for pictures of that nature and I have to say that it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I don't take anything that is said personally and I'm never offended.

:)

Now you guys have done it! You've upset our bunker queen. She's obviously offended, and completely bothered by the effects of posing for a picture of that nature! ;) :p

I now order you to continue arguing over trivial matters, so by this time tomorrow we'll have gotten no where!!!!

Clare action posters Now!!! Dammit!


...We can't stop!!..... Its too Dangerous!!!! :D

[trevorjk]

man for some reason it wont let me buy the body on the right >:(

[Tunaman]

Originally posted by mag-hatter


no one is looking at the ULE's.
Dont you believe THAT for one minute fool! This is the hottest selling body on the market. EVERYONE is looking at the ULE bodies right now.:D :o