Dragun T.E.S

[Rope a Dope]

I saw this gun on the field Sunday and I was impressed!

It's a Spyder, but with anti chop eyes, an LCD, low pressure and does 20bps!!!! http://stores.cipp.com/Merchant4/graphics/00000006/1103draguntesredblk.jpg

All for $250.

I am going to order a few for the store I work at. I think they are gonna sell fast! We've nicked named it the "Intimidator Light" :)

Anyone shoot one? It's the cats meow.

I also wanna get some Bushmasters since they're around $250 but they are always out of stock from ICD... we sell Spyders and clones a lot so I always wanna stock up big on slightly better guns in the $250 range.

[SpecialBlend2786]

Thats an impressive looking gun. Kinda does look like an intimidator.

[Furby]

And they just got a bit more impressive:

http://www.paintballchannel.com/browse.php?mod=article&opt=view&id=315&style=details

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Originally posted by Furby
And they just got a bit more impressive:

http://www.paintballchannel.com/browse.php?mod=article&opt=view&id=315&style=details Wow! My field is a dragun dealer, and I know a guy there that bought a TES from him. I mucked around with it, and its by far the best gun FOR THE MONEY I have ever shot.

[dansim]

so the tes is decent?

[Jack & Coke]

T.E.S. videos

http://www.dragunempire.com/movs/tes.wmv

http://www.dragunempire.com/movs/tes1.wmv

http://www.dragunempire.com/movs/ff.wmv

http://www.dragunempire.com/movs/lcddf.wmv

http://www.dragunempire.com/movs/mech.wmv


Not too bad for $230!

I'm sure actual retail will be a little cheaper. If I was on a budget, I'd get sure consider this gun... :)http://www.automags.org/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[FortySix&2]

The TES can be a great gun, especially for the money. They are selling like crazy at the field where I play/ref. They are awesome for newer speedball players as they offer performance to match stock Imps at the like. For the money they are great, but let me warn you first. 2 out of 3 that come out of the box have had problems. A couple kids have had to send theirs back to the factory right out of the box. So they are hit or miss guns, like anything with a low price you often get low quality. They remind of really cheap blowbacks and System-X type cockers. They can be great for the money, but the tolerances are crap and often the gun can be too. Also, being such a knockoff type gun, you don't really get the upgrades or the support (other people's knowledge of the gun).

For the ones that come out working, wow do they work for the money. For under $300 it might be the best deal out there. So don't get me wrong the guns are great. Just be aware there's often a reason "good" things are so cheap.

[Xyxyll]

Originally posted by FortySix&2
Also, being such a knockoff type gun, you don't really get the upgrades or the support (other people's knowledge of the gun).

They work just like any other open-bolt blowback (Spyder). Any Spyder tech should know this marker inside and out without even having one.

[Furby]

Pretty simple to work on...instead of using an oring on the striker, it uses a cup seal looking outfit...seems to work just fine. The most trouble we've had out of one was it needed 1/4 turn out on the sear adjustment.

[Gunga]

Got some shootdown going on in that 3rd viceo...notice some of the balls hitting the ground in front of the garbage can rather than the target.

[Lohman446]

I saw one in a kids hands the other day - my firt words where "when did you get a Timmy." I would have expected it - considering his last gun was an Angel. He was quite happy with it - though did note it had a couple leaks that he had had to fix. $300 an anti-chop system electronic marker (that looks alright)... for the price you would be very hard pressed to beat it

[AcemanPB]

I've seen a few at my field, like everyone else has said they are great guns for the money. I heard some of the younger kids at the field talking like "OMG that guy has a TES those things can do 20bps automatic!!" I thought it was kind of amusing because they did not give any of the iR3s or high end timmys there a second glance

[Furby]

Originally posted by Gunga
Got some shootdown going on in that 3rd viceo...notice some of the balls hitting the ground in front of the garbage can rather than the target.

Probably using an inferior airsystem...should have used a Centerflag....

[nicad]

Dreagun is working with JAM enterprizes and i belive the guns are/will be coming with the JAM anti-chopbolt..
overall not a bad price at all.
seems like you could break it pretty easy tho...

[toolfan62]

grips still look gay,but i might get one as a backup,gotta make sure i try it at the store b4 i buy it:p

[Pstan]

If you dont like Dragun there are others on the way....none of those metric fittings and stuff to fool with.


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[wallace9111]

The tes is the best looking of those guns by far. Today or yesterday they announced that they are coming out with a timmy conversion for it, ram actuated and lpr and everything, and only for $225. Also they are going to start selling the "zero" same body as the tes with timmy upgrade for $499 msrp.


These little guns rock!!!! I used one this weekend during a little air ball pratice and I did not feel guilty about using my back up gun vs. my new 2k3 shocker(it could not handle the 230 fps limit). The tes's debounce setting is great, you can really get these guns moving fast. Too many people thought it was a timmy just by the looks and sound; it is funny to take your hand off the grip and show them its not.

[Rope a Dope]

Well I just ordered 6 of them for my store :)

I also pre-ordered two of the Intimidator conversion kits. For $200 or so you can turn ANY Spyder and Spyder clone into an intimidator!! They will also release an intimidator clone for around $375, complete with ACE.

I think theses guys are gonna be BIG when this stuff comes out. The TES is already an awesome gun.

So if any of you are in Stockton CA, stop by the ACE Hardware store on Fremont St., I ordered a nice big batch of this stuff. The TES will be in a few days, the intimidator conversion kits and clones will be in the first week of December.

[speedyejl]

Judging from the Video they had a bit of shootdown issuses, and the kick looked pretty bad.

[wallace9111]

I own a tes it does not have shootdown issues. Well at least mine does not. It does have a little kick, nothing anyone can not handle.

Will

[Mossman]

Rope a dope or anyone that knows....

What does the "timmy clone conversion" include?

Electro grip frame that trips the sear...
Ram (where does it go?) Some kind of solenoid that controls the ram (wondering where the air taps in to this as well, and if an LPR is needed)
AND the eye? How do you attach?

That seems ridiculous if it comes with all that stuff for around 200. Just wondering how the Noid is mounted basically, because spyders dont have the same space between the grip and body as timmies. Also how the LPR and eyes mount ;)

It got me interested...

[Kaiser Bob]

Originally posted by Mossman
Rope a dope or anyone that knows....

What does the "timmy clone conversion" include?

Electro grip frame that trips the sear...
Ram (where does it go?) Some kind of solenoid that controls the ram (wondering where the air taps in to this as well, and if an LPR is needed)
AND the eye? How do you attach?

That seems ridiculous if it comes with all that stuff for around 200. Just wondering how the Noid is mounted basically, because spyders dont have the same space between the grip and body as timmies. Also how the LPR and eyes mount ;)

It got me interested...

Well they would probably remove the sear, as you wouldent need it with a ram driven hammer design. I would venture to guess the ram and hammer will be cartridge style with LP hoses running thru the body somehow, possibly between the grip and body and up into the hammer chamber