Psycho Ballistics Autococker?

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

What do you guys think of the new Psycho Ballistic Lightning Autococker?

It's $100 under my price range
Has sweet milling on it
Look very nice
is very cheap
etc etc.

I am planning on purchasing this autococker VERY soon - does anyone know anything about this gun?

[FragTek]

Its a cheap *** Dye Ultralite.... Never shot one, don't care too.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

....good enough reason for me to buy it. guess it's mine

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

http://www.psychoballistics.com/neupsycho/images/markers/lightningpic.jpg
looks good to me :)

[FragTek]

whoops, i wasnt thinking the lightening, i was thinking of the other new one they just came out with...

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

the superbolt?

[-=Squid=-]

looks good, but trust me, its not worth it. There is much better. The pic makes it look better. I must urge you not to buy it.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

i know there are better but for $270?

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

i was just wondering, is it possible for me yo screw a n2 or co2 tank directly to the gun or do i need to get a reg?

[soccer4minimags]

Originally posted by SuiciDal Sn Y p ER
i was just wondering, is it possible for me yo screw a n2 or co2 tank directly to the gun or do i need to get a reg?
Yes, with a good lpr, thats how they did it in the old days. Cockers would be run off vertical bottle co2.
I personally would get the other one, Superbolt? just cause its a mini cocker and this one isn't. There is just something about minis, so sweet.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

well i'm getting the lightning cause i don't have $100 more to spend.

What is the worst thing that could happen if i screwed in my tank vertically into the asa?

[68magOwner]

there could be no pin to push the pin valve and it not work (happened to a friend) just pick up a stock cocker reg for $10 out of the B/S/T forums

[ExtremeODD]

if ur using CO2, u get liquid in the gun. With nitro... it looks reductilous.... i really suggest getting a cheap gas through grip for say 15 bux, and the fittings, macro and an asa, the grip is like 15, macro and fittings, 5, asa like 10-20 depends on what type

[tony3]

or pic of a cheap stock cocker reg for 10 bucks....

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

guess i'm getting a reg than

[tyrion2323]

Snyper - I LOVE IT! I got to try it out at a paintball shop - it's light as a feather, and feels really solid!

Peace,

Jacob

BTW - did you get my company name suggestions?

[maglover52]

its a pos its a cheap dye rip off that has less than a third of the quality.

[FragTek]

True dat maglover, true dat :)

[GA Devil]

I was told that they are made from the dye bodies that had flaws and couldnt be used without modifications. Psyco bought them and milled out the bodies to work and threw together a gun. They are actually a knock off of a knock off. In this case you will get less then you pay for ;)

[bunkermaster10]

Kinda like buying or picking up used paint to play with....:rolleyes: You know is going to be a POS...

[Dbl_Edge]

where can i find it?

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Dbl_Edge
where can i find it? www.pbgear.com

[tyrion2323]

I disagree that this marker is a POS - In fact, I loved it when I checked it out. It was light, great looking, and functioned beautifully. The trigger is easy to get used to, and the milling is phenomenal.

It's funny to see how much the price drops when it goes from DYE to Psycho Ballistics. Great product, though.

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by GA Devil
I was told that they are made from the dye bodies that had flaws and couldnt be used without modifications. Psyco bought them and milled out the bodies to work and threw together a gun. They are actually a knock off of a knock off. In this case you will get less then you pay for ;)

Any proof or sources to support this asertion? What defects made them unacceptable to DYE but acceptable to make lightnings?

[Meph]

I'm having to double check on this, but apparently this is the process.

They Tippmann-ize it!

By that I mean it's molded. Not milled. Like tippmann there are giant molds, you pour in the liquid metal and voila. Instant body.

Only they then drill/tap some holes and slap on the rest of the stuff. Tada. Instant cocker at a fraction of the cost. Since it takes everything cocker, not new-made stuff with different dimensions or holes. So if wanted to you could also put on a new trigger frame or front block assembly.


As for the people who say "It's a knock off" Yeah well guess what genius... the Cocker is a knock-off. Ever hear of Camille? Yeah didn't think so. Go back in your hole.

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by Meph
As for the people who say "It's a knock off" Yeah well guess what genius... the Cocker is a knock-off.

I'd extend that sentiment to those that are stupid enough to spend a fortune on other markers and can only say another one is bad because it's cheaper.

Smart consumers who are looking for PERFORMANCE over STYLE, and who aren't just slavishly following a brand name know that you can often get the same quality and performance at half the price. Often the only sacrifice is the loss of a brand name logo.

It's all as laughable as the stink raised by the taiwanese cockers (that can't be sold in the US). Lot's said cheap=garbage. The laughable thing is that the taiwanese cocker and one sold by WGP are identical. Both are made at the same factory, only one is sent to WGP in different boxes.

[GA Devil]

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast


Any proof or sources to support this asertion? What defects made them unacceptable to DYE but acceptable to make lightnings?

As I said "I WAS TOLD" Never said it was fact nor fiction. Just passing info about something that I heard not standing by it either way. Personally ive seen them a couple times and havent heard much good out of them. I own an orracle myself, as my Non-mag gun. The lightning dont look very high in quality when I saw it but never know.

[Automaggin2]

The guy over at Punishers Customs swears by these things.

[maglover52]

Originally posted by tyrion2323
It's funny to see how much the price drops when it goes from DYE to Psycho Ballistics. Great product, though.

yeah because its NOT dye. its a cheap rip off of dye that was made with 400 bucks less put into it. thats why it costs like 279. because its a cheap rip off that has less than a thrid of the quality!

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by maglover52
yeah because its NOT dye. its a cheap rip off of dye that was made with 400 bucks less put into it. thats why it costs like 279. because its a cheap rip off that has less than a thrid of the quality!

So what do you get for $400 more?

If it's just because it's cheap, you're blowing hot air. Is there anything documented or provable about what is inferior?

Any numbers, measurements, proof to back up a statement of "less than a thrid (sic) of the quality!"?

Or is it simply a case of if you don't care about sparkle, shine, and a designer label, it's just as good?

[pbjosh]

Those of you 'Knocking' the PBallistics 'Cocker:

Have you even touched one?

If you haven't, then please stop telling us what it is.

I am curious, since I know a 'Bit' about the history of it. From what I have heard they are fairly solid, and actually are a good working gun. People have had issues with the trigger, but only on the sliding version, and people who know what the WGP sliding trigger is like, would say it is exactly the same.

SO:

Unless you DID play with it, please do not comment. Looks we can all figure. The original question is: Is it solid? Does it work well? Seems to from the reports I have heard.

I spent $400 on my first tippmann. Does that mean it is better than the A-5? Nope.

For the price, you should be fine. Most of the other guns inthe price range do not have a long shelf life, keep that in mind, but I have a feeling the price has more to do with competition having a better name, and less to do with actual cost.

Josh

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

http://store6.yimg.com/I/actionvillage_1768_245547274
Dye Ultralite - $750

http://store6.yimg.com/I/actionvillage_1767_153639727
Psycho Ballistics Lightning - $300

Pricewise there is no competition but i'm sure there is a difference in quality but that's why the price is cheap.

[tyrion2323]

I haven't played a game with it, but I HAVE tested it out in a store (well, behind a pball store). I can tell you that it feels very solid, and that the double fingered trigger version ($329 at pbgear.com) is beautiful. I almost dropped the money right there and then, but realized that I didn't have money to drop.

I love DYE products as much as the next guy (I wear a bonebrake jacket and gloves EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR) however, I recognize that DYE overprices their items quite a bit. But, who doesn't? I mean, $129 for pants? My pants work just as well. They make sick gloves though.

ANYWAYS, for those of you who are bashing the PB cocker - there really isn't much of a difference, except for that the bolt is already delrin, so you don't really need to upgrade it. I had front pneumatics very similar to the Dye cocker.

Peace guys,

Jacob

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

once i get the money first thing i'm gonna do is get a new trigger frame.

[*ArKfEaR*]

Originally posted by SuiciDal Sn Y p ER
once i get the money first thing i'm gonna do is get a new trigger frame.

Dye Pneumatics are crap to begin with, now if another company copied a crappy design to start, imagine what the end result is, yes even crappier.

I would recommend Eclipse Blade trigger, AKA Sidewinder reg. As for pneumatics, i would swap em all out honestly (wouldn't want you to have a bad cocker experience because crappy parts). Micro Rock with rock-knob, 44 Magnum ram, belsales 3-way.

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[dinger]

i laughed when i saw it

first thing my brother said was "haha what a pos"

first thing i thought when i picked it up "i wonder how far this shoots nerf balls..."
it felt cheap and like a toy...

all i must say is only get DYE and WGP cockers... it just for the better.

and on top of that, its a slide trigger? what gives... newer cockers have 2x triggers... but this isn't a bash against slides: i love slide triggers :)

for about another 40$ you can have a quality WGP cocker with a 2x trigger anyways.

2¢

[BigEvil]

Reported

[captian pinky]

ummmm random haha

the pbcocker sux i have owned one and gotten rid of with in about a month the body is light yes but it is cheaply made and feels that way also

the pneumatics suck as well as dyes but also when u buy the dye new u get an ultralight with it which is 100 of that 400 yall were talking about

the pb cocker also strips easily i have heard stories of people throwing these away because they didnt want to helicoil body screws

[kurtisqpublic]

I just bought the super bolt version for my nephew for Christmas. Got it from i&iSports on ebay brand spanking new for $80 shipped. The pneus are kinda cheap, but he can upgrade if he continues to play. Other than that it's a pretty nice gun for the money. Nice low cost base to grow a great gun off of.

[halB]

Ok, I OWN one of them (the superbolt).

I bought it for 20 bux. It took a LOOOOONG time to get the damn thing to shoot. It was missing several o rings and the timing rod was bent! I fixed it all up and she shoots really well now. But I still would not have paid anymore than 20 dollars for it.

It OOOOZES cheapness. I got extremely lucky, and my pneumatics actually work (and work well) but this does not seem to be the experience other people have. If you are buying it to turn it into a pump, however, then everything should work very well for you.

P.S. CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP!!! OMG THIS THING IS CHEAP! The anodizing, the milling, it's all cheap!

[The Action Figure]

terrible gun, i've had almost 20 cockers/knockoffs and this is one of the worst. Get a used ocker on ao or pbn forums for like 150 and you can get a nicer one that will preform better. On a side note i really liked the way it looked but i bought mine new for 120 from national paintball store in my area and i regret every dime of it.

[punkncat]

Did not a single one of you notice that before the porn bot resurrected this thing, that the OP was made in 03?

Talk about necro-advice.

[kurtisqpublic]

:D
I did find it a little odd that the price quoted was sooooo high!