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Stargazer54
12-14-2003, 02:39 PM
Please feel free to share your thoughts,ideas
or suggestions on this tread dealing with
what the military calls TADs, or Training
Aid Devices.

Simply put, these are the tools which they use
to make their troop training more realistic.
When it comes to paintball, we've seen some
use of these sorts of things, but there's never
been all that much effort put into this as far
as civilian games go.

That's about to change, or at least it's now
possible to add some of these elements, if the
field owners and Scenario Game promotors want to.

For starters, there's now a really cool shoulder
launcher, which comes from Blackpoint Engineering,
which can serve to take out bunkers and tanks
using safe Nerf Pocket Vortex rounds. Of course it
can also serve the military as a substitute for
an RPG just as easily.

Another new recent development, is the PMB-14 pellet mine, which is being produced by AULTEC LLC, out of NJ.

Another whole class of TADs, which I'm sure will
raise a few hairs on everyone's neck, are those being
created by Ken Hammond, owner of Area-51 out of
Canada and lets not forget the newest TAD to hit
the streets, the M80TR antipersonnel mine from
Major Paintball. Finally, an affordable way to
restrict movements on trails or in front of your
base, without risking injury. By the way, this mine
is still a month or more from being ready to ship,
but it's already found itself on the 'to buy' list
of several major military training commands.

Finally, there are some items which while they
aren't at all dangerous to use, are being reserved
solely for MIL/LE end users. The M14 & M16 type mines,
which are now being turned out by Gun F/X, are just
one example and then there's those air powered
mortars and cannon Tippmann Ordnance builds,
which are also only going to MIL end users.

If you'd like to check some of these things out,
here's a list of places to go for more information.
To be honest, some of these might be out of some
folks price range, while others aren't. Guess it'll
be up to you, the fields and promoters to decide
that.


Gun F/X (http://www.gunfx.com)

Blackpoint Engieering LLC (http://www.bp-usa.com)

Tippmann Ord (http://tippmannordnance.com)

Virtual War Game Products (http://www.virtualwargameproducts.com)

Area-51 (http://area-51.on.ca)


Oh, if you're thinking to yourself, how real can
any of this stuff really be, take a moment to check
out this short clip. Just remember, NO PYRO was used
in the filming of this sequesnce..
Sniper Tower (http://www.area-51.on.ca/snipertower.mpg)


Ok, so the next time someone says, hey we've got to
blow up their ammo dump, will it make any difference
if they've got one of these wired so it'll blow when
you hit the right spot, or will it be just another
mission that you'll pass off to someone else to carry
out?

Just remember, always cover your rear!

Andy Van Der Plaats, AKA 'Dorsai'

Meph
12-14-2003, 03:26 PM
1) Tippmann Ordanences don't exactly sell to the general public. Those are a seperate division of Tippmann done specifically for the Military. Sort of like the Sydarm was made specifically and only for police training and such, wasn't for public distribution.

2) The LAW rockets and mortars are nothing new. They've been in paintball for longer than I remember.

Stargazer54
12-15-2003, 12:58 PM
Tippmann does sell to the public, but as
you noted, he also has some items which
he only offers to the MIL. His new 203
is one of those items he IS offering to
the public, just not the special rounds,
which weigh in at 5 ounces. He also has
a shorter range mortar, but won't sell
you the 20 ounce finned rounds that they
use so effectively up at Fort Knox.

As for the shoulder launcher, I've been
aroud since oil based pellets and I'm
SURE no one has offered a launcher like
the one Blackpoint is selling. There are
loads of guys who have built launchers
out of PVC, but none I'm aware of who are
using machined aluminum parts, or internal
regulators, let alone triggers with a cross
button safety. If someone knows of someone
else who is, please let me know..

Andy, AKA 'Dorsai'

Meph
12-15-2003, 07:25 PM
Wish I could remember who. I think Rusty's Paintball Gear? I dunno... been a while. But there was actually a company who offers bazookas with even a red flip-crossheir sighting and a sliding muzzle (Like a real bazooka, you pull the 2 halves away and whammo).

But for simple ones, Tippmann has made metal ones. And MXS use metal LAW rockets with propane valves.

Machined aluminum? No, welded. But metal none the less.

hitech
12-18-2003, 06:40 PM
I always thought TAD stood for Traveling Around Drunk. ;)

cledford
12-30-2003, 09:30 AM
I've talked at length with Marty Tippmann of Tippmann Ordnance and they are not affiliated with Tippmann Pneumatics except through family relationship. Marty does tend to steer customers towards the (Dennis)Tippmann line of markers - but will custom fabricate you a mount for one of his 203s for any paintball marker. He had no problem selling to me and in fact did not bat an eye at shipping me one of his genII "military" models. He did say that they were trying to get out of the sales to focus on development and manufacturing - but that they were working with a company to outsource the distribution to.


I have one of his new style 203s, brand new, with pro-carbine and complete with grenade and shot rounds listed in the Misc Sales forum for a great price. I bought it for a local scenario game then broke my wrist the day before it played. Haven't had a chance to get back into since.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1213271#post1213271

-Calvin