best pump

[laxkid]

should I get a sniper 3 or other pump autococker or a phantom or something different?

[Burphel]

There's no wrong answer to this...

Personally, I'd go with the Sniper2 over the Sniper3. The weight isn't that much more and having the pump under the barrel rather than around it makes a big difference on the Cocker body. The downside of both Sniper models is that they're made with modern Cocker bodies. That means a vast cavern of space outside of the valve to allow for LP. That's great if you'll be using CA, but if you want to run CO2, plan on getting your tank anti-siphoned and installing a regulator if you want your velocity to be anywhere near consistant.

Phantoms are awesome too. A lot lighter, comes with autotrigger, and you've got the versatility to do Stock Class if you want. Personally, that's about all I do anymore. I just find that the lower profile is worth the slightly lower ROF.

I'd also check out the Illusion. It's got a lot of similarities to the Sniper 2, but it was designed from the ground up as a pump. The valve is tuned to be CO2 friendly, and can also switch to Stock Class by switching threaded feeds.

And don't forget the good ol' PGP. Compact, accurate, efficient and built like a brick s**thouse. On the older ones, look for a speedchanger to make the 12g changes more manageable and a quickloader. On the new ones, you'll want an aftermarket bolt (available from CooperT and customizers) to make up for a very common manufacturing defect (otherwise, a very nice little gun).

[Spaceman613]

you need to be more specific on what type of pump play you intend to do.

Stock? Open? 12 gram? co2? compressed air?

Sterlings are great and are relatively inexpensive for open pump on CA or air.

I like snipers personally, but thats becuas ei shoot cockers

Phantoms rock, I have a VSC (stock class)...

I am not a big illusion fan, but thats preference, they are good guns.

PGPs are very fun, as are all other brass pumpers (Palmers makes some great ones).

So? more info?

[laxkid]

I am playing open and running ca

[Prezents]

I love my Illusion,
I can go from my N2 47/3000 to a complete stock class marker in less than 2 minutes.
Yo have so many options with it.
This is just my 2cents. it is all up to you and enjoy what you get!!!!:D
http://lewistown.net/~prezents/ao/illusion1.jpg

[SpecialBlend2786]

Dye Buzzard. I've never used one, but they look cool. PLUS, they are pretty cheap at around $600:rolleyes:

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

lol o yes very cheap. though it does look kool. I recommend u get a tracer. cheap, works, easy to maintain.

[yeahthatsme]

a carter buzzard maybe

[Lee]

sniper 2.
fully ugradeable, multiple barrel choices that are easily available, durable, accurate, relatively inexspensive and readily available, easy to maintain.

[NJPaint]

ummm, AGD pump mag... duh

[50 cal]

I still use one of my 2 Phantoms when I play rec ball around here. They are both dead on accurate.
I am trying to work a deal with a guy for a Sterling. I've shot one of those recently and they are great guns too. You can just do a lot more with Phantoms.

http://www.phantomonline.com/

Go here and look around. There is bound to be something that tickles your fancy.

[Muzikman]

I'd go Sniper II though there are so many good pumps out there, most you will not go wrong with.

Jason

[Nomad]

Best bang for the buck?

Phantom hands down. Stock parts work perfectly, including the stock barrel. And for more versitility there's the CCI Nickel Plated barrel which is well priced ($44 USD I think). Customer service is top of the line as well and you can get all these with very nice adonized finishes (colors other then black are +$20 when you order. Acid washes are +$30. Guess prices are so low since he just keeps the raw bodies around and anodizes them right when you order direct, so no worry about having to strip previous finish).

The Sniper II (I'd go for the 2 instead of 3) is also very nice. Coolest thing about it IMO is that you can order all the parts seperate and build the pump from scratch. Almost every type of barrel out there has cocker threading nowadays, so that gives you a huge variety of what kind of barrel you want. You can adjust the trigger pull to suit your tastes. And a big plus is that it's a completely modular system (you can convert to semi auto if ever the need, or even electro. Though that's quite a bit of $$).

[ej_y4]

get a phantom, i have shot most of the pumps out there. my local shop specializes in pumps. i have never had any problems with my phantom, there is only really three parts on the inside of the gun that make it fire, it is also very easy to clean. if you deside to get a sniper get the 2 one. the j2 pump is suppose to be awsome but i havent tryed it, and its not cheep.

[MarkM]

For open class you will not go wrong with a Sterling, they are a hybrid design of the Phantom and Sniper, way smoother than either, a lot more fiddly to adjust the power output but way better. I own a Phantom and a Sterling and have used Snipers didn't like them as they way too heavy and no auto trigger (even when adapted to have one they didn't work smoothly) cost wise the Phantom has the edge no doubt, but the Sterling will out perform the Phantom.

[laxkid]

Originally posted by ej_y4
get a phantom, i have shot most of the pumps out there. my local shop specializes in pumps. i have never had any problems with my phantom, there is only really three parts on the inside of the gun that make it fire, it is also very easy to clean. if you deside to get a sniper get the 2 one. the j2 pump is suppose to be awsome but i havent tryed it, and its not cheep.


yea I really want to try one of those ccm pumps they look amazing but the price is high.

[StygShore]

Love the sniper II,

Why not spend the 20-30 bucks on the pump kit and just turn the Sleeper Cocker you have into a Sniper?

Styg

[Sparq]

I think the answer to this question is to try a few and decide which you like. I prefer the lower profile and lighter weight of the Phantom, but the pump placement of the Sniper 2, which is why I've looked into undercocking kits for my VSC.

[ogre55]

I will cast my vote for the Phantom for all of the reasons that everyone has stated earlier. It is has the best bang for the buck of any pump out there. It is extremely easy to learn to maintain and to service on and off the field. As pumps go it has the best bang for the puck. It is also very updragable and customizable.

Finally, if you ever want to play Stock Class, all you need to do is buy a new breach and a 12 gram chamber. No modification need to be made to the gun in order for it to be effecient with 12 grams.

Ogre

[Jack & Coke]

I would get this one...

from: http://www.chipleymachine.com/pump5.htm




Series 5 Pump

http://www.chipleymachine.com/images/ps5lg.jpg

This is a great entry into a higher end marker. Warrantied for life, just like everything that we make. Utilizes many of the same components as the J2. The main difference between the Series 5 is mainly a matter of aesthetics, and weight.

So, if a 'sleeper' is your style, then check out the Series 5. Proudly made in the USA, and the quality shows. Comes in dust black, with polished pump accessories.

Each of the components is hand tested and inspected to ensure the highest performance and fit. Now shipping with the CCM 12" barrel.



Great price!............................................ ......................$425.00




:cool:

[robdamanii]

My phantom and I have a love affair going.

Her name is Clarice. I like to stroke her gently until she loses control and shoots off.

Ahh, what a sight...

[Barfly]

get an old school Tracer, they kick butt. I remember back in the earlyish/mid '90s they won an award for their accuracy.

[Zumina]

Phantom, hands down. Light, reliable, and simple.

[madmatt151]

I mean all the guns listed are great, but you gotta love the "Rolls Royce" of paintball guns. Here's mine a while ago. It doesn't have this drop anymore, or the purple grips, but you get the point. Oh and as far as upgrades, you don't need any so it doesn't matter that there aren't any. J&J makes barrels for it so if that's what you want there.

[GT]

shoot you want the RT of the pump world?

http://www.paintballmaxx.com/main/services/custom/sho/

This is probally one of the few pumps you can hit 10bps on, its just that insane. I think Brad told me when he want to world cup 97? he hit 14bps over the chronoy, just insane!

[Jack & Coke]

Very nice...

http://www.paintballmaxx.com/images/sho1.jpg

http://www.paintballmaxx.com/main/services/custom/sho/images/pic_3.jpg

http://www.paintballmaxx.com/main/services/custom/sho/images/pic_1.jpg

http://www.paintballmaxx.com/main/services/custom/sho/images/pic_2.jpg

[Jack & Coke]

other neat stuff from http://www.paintballmaxx.com





http://www.paintballmaxx.com/main/services/custom/markers/images/pic_9.jpg

http://www.paintballmaxx.com/main/services/custom/workbench/images/pic_1.jpg
(Integrated front block and asa, milled body, convertible feed port. This was Todd's gun before anodizing and jazzing.)

http://www.paintballmaxx.com/main/services/custom/workbench/images/pic_2.jpg
(Our first undercocking Mod for the phantom that is attached to the frame. This was tested on Z's marker for fit.)

http://www.paintballmaxx.com/main/services/custom/workbench/images/pic_3.jpg
(Convertible feed port w/ integrated version of our red dot site. A lego red antennae :) man Brad can come up with the coolest ideas.)

http://www.paintballmaxx.com/main/services/custom/workbench/images/pic_7.jpg
(The fully decked stock class sniper. Uses our 12gram stock, convertible feed port, 2 rod pump design. Anodizing was provided by Indian Creek.)

http://www.paintballmaxx.com/main/services/custom/workbench/images/pic_8.jpg
(Custom built 12gram stock. Holds 2 12 grams for fast reloading. Can be made with any length stock needed.)

http://www.paintballmaxx.com/main/services/custom/workbench/images/pic_9.jpg
(Close in shot of our first generation convertible feed port.)

http://www.paintballmaxx.com/main/services/custom/workbench/images/pic_11.jpg
(Our first ever made bolt on stock class adapter for the sniper or cocker.)

[Jack & Coke]

Also, don't forget about:

Palmer's Pursuit Shop

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/online-catalog/Pumpers.htm

[Brophog]

Definitely some very sweet pumps coming out of the various airsmiths around the net.

[Quickling]

Sterling. Shoot it once and your hooked for life :)

[eMpTy68]

Been Playing with a Stock Modded Sniper II for a few years, very upgradeable, very custumizeable, very easy to one of a kind. But there is also Pump Mag, again easy to custumize, lots of after market stuff available, sweet shooting on top of that.

Any marker selection is personal pref, a Phamtom may be for some people but not other. For me I selected the Sniper II and Pump Mag for upgradeabilities. ;)