where do you guys run your retro, rt's, and x-valves?

[sah111489]

I want to find out where most people run their retro valves and such with their tanks. When you state what your input pressure is, also state how it works their and what kind of ROF you can get. Thanks for any replies.:D

[AGD Paint Baller]

my gun is sick my out put pressure is between 600 and 1000 and it dose auto at its slowest at 15 or 20 and fastest in the 30's

[WenULiVeUdiE]

Originally posted by AGD Paint Baller
fastest in the 30's

Sorry bud thats not possible to get 30 on a mag. The xvalve can only cycle 26 times a second. So how do you expect us to believe that you can get in the 30's, even when pros cant get near that.

[dyeforever]

yeah 30 is way to high. 13 bps is faster then a lot of people think.

i run a classic w/ lx, stock trigger and crossfire preset tank.

i get a good 5 to 6 balls average 7 on adrenaline.:D
it may be little bit but my markers got no kick back at all.

[Joni]

Originally posted by WenULiVeUdiE


Sorry bud thats not possible to get 30 on a mag. The xvalve can only cycle 26 times a second. So how do you expect us to believe that you can get in the 30's, even when pros cant get near that.

The xvalve has been tested AT MOST at 26 bps. AGD hasnt been able to test it faster than that, but noone has said it wont work at 30 bps. And I think he's talking about sweetspotting the trigger. Doing that can get some mad bps, although 30 sounds a little high.

[tonybhall]

Actually, as I understand it, the X-Valve has been tested at 26 BPS with no shootdown. It will actually go higher but you may experience some shootdown.

B-)

[WenULiVeUdiE]

^ Iwas sort of thinking about that when I typed my first post. But no one can even pull 26 a second, I doubt pros can, and that means you especially cant AGD Paintballer.

[AGD Paint Baller]

here look at this if u dont wanna believe me...Look Here (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81197)

[AGD Paint Baller]

o yeah and by the way if you remove a o-ring it goes full auto or u can sweet spot it to do sick rof's

[WenULiVeUdiE]

I am sure who ever was pulling was extremely expeieneced and that wasnt you so yea. And for all you know he did remove the oring to acheive such a high BPS. But the fast is anything over 20 bps is rediculousy(sp?) fast.

[AGD Paint Baller]

i did the same thing he did remove the on/off top o-ring and crank the pressure it dose it all the same as him

[AGD Paint Baller]

but whats the point of argueing about weather i can or cant do 30 bps it its was just a question about how fast the valves could do at what pressure and it dose go over 26 w/o shut down

[Cryer]

The RT valve has been tested up to 26 bps without shoot down. That only means that its guaranteed to bee 100% consistant up to 26 bps. It doesnt mean you cant shoot faster. As a matter of fact, there is a clip around here (ask JAck&Coke) of an automag (mech) doing 33. Tony is right.(nya, nya:p)

Although speeds that fast rely heavily on runaway or trigger bounce.

Anyways...

I ran my Xvalve at 800. I know for a fact that I could get like 16 at least. (I could outrun my revvy with ease, and it was intellifed. The level 10 kicked in every few shots when I really tried to rip on it.)
In a game, tho, I never wanted to go that high.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

Originally posted by AGD Paint Baller
but whats the point of argueing

I dont know. Lets stop before it gets out of hand.


-Andrew

[AGD Paint Baller]

lol good idea

[sah111489]

can you guys post how much PSI(exactly) you usually run into your retro/x-valves so I can get a clear estimate of where people like to run their's at. If you don't mind can you also tell what tank you use. Even post if you crank up the output to 1000 or even higher.

[AGD Paint Baller]

depends what u want your gun to do i use my x-valve between 600 and 1000 and use a max flow 88ci 4500psi system different pressuers acheve different rof's the hight the pressure the better the rof and the easyer 2 walk the trigger the different springs matter 2 the smalest spring in the level 10 can run as low as 550 and the stringer spring i couldnt get it lower than 750 and the middle spring i dont know cuze i havent tried it yet if u want 2 know any thing else pm me

[soccer4minimags]

I use a pmi pre-set and a crossfire pre-set. I like the crossfire better. It seems that its putting out more than the PE. I just haven't ever checked it with a gauge. The PE puts out right around 800, and it is reactive enough. Maybe my crossfire is more reactive cause its new and not really broken in yet. But if you are wondering 800psi is plenty to hit 13-14 if you're that fast.