STOLEN GUN! Palmerized Cocker stolen at Paintball Expo, Pomona 2-8-04

[Jack & Coke]

This sucks...

I had the pleasure of meeting and chatting with Glenn Palmer on Saturday 2-7-04:

http://www.imageshack.us/files/PPSPomona04.JPG

I just found out that on the next day, Sunday 2-8-04, someone stole one of his guns. It's a customized cocker that was located right here:

http://www.imageshack.us/files/stolenpalmerizedcocker.jpg

(this pic was taken on Saturday)

this is what the gun looks like:

FROM: http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/stolen.htm

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/images/guns/2/PPS-autococker-Milled-splsh.jpg

WARNING: the next pics are huge! (click on the small thumbnail to view detailed photos)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/images/stolen/cocker-bls-spl-bld_small.jpg (http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/images/stolen/cocker-bls-spl-bld.jpg)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/images/stolen/cocker-bls-spl-bld-3d_small.jpg (http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/images/stolen/cocker-bls-spl-bld-3d.jpg)

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/images/stolen/serialnmber-cocker.jpg

This is the only one with that mill pattern in "Blue Splash" ano. Most of the serial number can be seen in the picture. This one should be easy to pick out in a crowd.

Stolen from the PPS table at Paintball Expo in Pomona, LA, California

If you have info please call

PH. (916) 923-9676
FAX (916) 923-9674

or email Sales (mailto:sales@palmer-pursuit.com)

Thanks for your help...

[Muzikman]

Damn this sucks...He had a Pug snagged at IAO. They luckly caught that punk a few weeks later. Hopefully they will catch this one.

[Jack & Coke]

Although it's nice to "handle" the guns while they're on the table, they should connect some wire cable through some sort of ASA bottom line adaptor.

Maybe even put up one of those X-10 cameras?

I feel bad... he was such a nice, enthusiastic guy. For this to happen, I bet it just totally ruined it for him to drive 7 hours down here.

[DementedRabbit]

Yeah, well, the thief just had the dogs sicced on him. He'll never be able to sell it.

[RoadDawg]

This sux. I hope they catch the person and cut their hands off.

[Clare]

I've got it up on my site, too!

[ramenjames]

its a damn shame that their are "ballers" out their that would dissrespect such a legandary figure in paintball....hell or any 'baller:mad:

[Butterfingers]

The people who steal these things are probably professional theives... They know there is hundreds of thousands of dollars worth in equip at these tournies.

Its a shame...

I agree these things should have cable locks

[thei3ug]

actually, they usually turn out to be little punks, that handle a gun, notice that the table is crowded, and just take advantage of that situation.

Not to say older people don't steal as well, but it's an exceptional temptation for younger players.

[cphilip]

I know this might not exactly be the place for this but a few years back at Cup we had a scare at the AGD table. They normaly have them cabled down too. We had some X Mags out for the first time. Well someone came up to the table and said they saw someone with one of our markers. A red to silver fade heading off down the aisle. We looked and indeed it was gone. So they described the guy with a Red hat took it. And almost all of us took off running in different directions looking for the guy. A few mintues later (maybe 15 or so) here comes Curtis (Havoc online) with the gun. Seems he was exactly the guy descibed with the marker. And he had said to someone he was going over to CP booth to match the Silver to a barrel kit. I guess no one paid any attention or realized it when he left with it. And we then heard it was gone and panic ensued. It was rather funny after that. And all the markers got strapped down then.

I think Curtis ended up with that marker and still shoots it to this day. I know he bought the Barrel kit before the end of the event for it.

[Sir_Brass]

Originally posted by cphilip
I know this might not exactly be the place for this but a few years back at Cup we had a scare at the AGD table. They normaly have them cabled down too. We had some X Mags out for the first time. Well someone came up to the table and said they saw someone with one of our markers. A red to silver fade heading off down the aisle. We looked and indeed it was gone. So they described the guy with a Red hat took it. And almost all of us took off running in different directions looking for the guy. A few mintues later (maybe 15 or so) here comes Curtis (Havoc online) with the gun. Seems he was exactly the guy descibed with the marker. And he had said to someone he was going over to CP booth to match the Silver to a barrel kit. I guess no one paid any attention or realized it when he left with it. And we then heard it was gone and panic ensued. It was rather funny after that. And all the markers got strapped down then.

I think Curtis ended up with that marker and still shoots it to this day. I know he bought the Barrel kit before the end of the event for it.

well, better safe than sorry. Props to the guy who told y'all that, even though it was a false alarm. B/c what if it hadn't been :).

But still, in that situation, that's hilarious! :D

[cphilip]

Yea It was an "inside job" :D

Realy it just made us all aware of how easy it would be for one marker to be gone and none of us notice it. So it did do us some good and even though a false alarm it made us all the more aware.

And of course everyone knows you can't trust Curtis with a Red X mag... ;)

[SlartyBartFast]

Sorry to hear it. WOuld have thought Palmer would have learned the lesson after Camille.:mad:


As for the AGD story, I'd say that a tagging procedure should always be in force at any table where multiple people have access to the keys.

Even if it's only on person, a tagging system will help them keep track during the craziness.

Also, beware about reports from someone of a stolen marker at a show. While all the AGD gang were running around and distracted, everything at the booth could have been ripe for the picking.

[cphilip]

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
Also, beware about reports from someone of a stolen marker at a show. While all the AGD game were running around and distracted, everything at the booth could have been ripe for the picking.

Naw were not that stupid. Someone (2 people actually) was left at the booth and all guns removed from table before the hunt was on. We organized which way we were going to go. One of course was sent directly to the Exit first thing.

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by cphilip
Naw were not that stupid.

Didn't want to insinuate you were.

Just wanted to underline that when manning a booth, or even in a retail outlet, one of the weapons of shoplifters is distraction.

[cphilip]

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast


Didn't want to insinuate you were.

Just wanted to underline that when manning a booth, or even in a retail outlet, one of the weapons of shoplifters is distraction.


Well people often mistake us for such..... :D


Absolutely and good point!

[Jack & Coke]

I wonder if PPS is covered by insurance?

If they are insured, would they at least be able to be compensated monetarily?

[Mango]

I hope they catch the guy. Glen is such a nice guy.

[Athius]

Originally posted by DementedRabbit
Yeah, well, the thief just had the dogs sicced on him. He'll never be able to sell it.

IF he is smart enough to sell it by parts, just like the car thieves, he will be able to sell it.

[Rhinopkc]

He won't be able to sell the body, it's one-of-a-kind and serialized.

[Athius]

Originally posted by Rhinopkc
He won't be able to sell the body, it's one-of-a-kind and serialized.

What about the locals? He can sell it to a friend.

[Wierd-Guy]

I picked up the gun at the MMG o3'.

Its a great gun it looked better and felt better than an MacDev and those retail for $1100+ Its full value concidering the time put into it would be at least $1000.

I hope he gets it back, he has a small bisiness and taking a few hits like that is not something he can just obsorb like WDP or Kingman could.

As far as selling, as long as its not on the forums or on ebay I'd say that person would have a hard time getting caught. The body could be passed off as an old school "Fish-Bone" cocker with an anno job from a non-existant company.

To Break it down:
Raw Body-$230
Lots of milling$200
Anno Job-$350
Kapp Hinge-$100
Air Connections/Lapco Drop w/Anno-$50
Custom Bolt-$50
Front Block and Pnematics-$175
High Rise-$25
Beaver Tail-$25
Stabalizer Inline-$100
Internals-guessing $150
Boa Barrel w/Nickel Plating-$75
Custom Cocking Rod-$25

Probably somethings I'm forgetting but that's $1555 if I got the milling value right. You pay a lot for custom but honestly, if I had the cash and wanted a mechanicl cocker, that would be my gun.

[50 cal]

Glen's a great guy. Someone that would steal from a vendor that has done so much for the sport should have their fingers lopped off one at a time over a space of a day or two......seriously.

[whizbop]

I was wondering why they searched everyone leaving the expo building even though they had not done it earlier in the day. The theft occurred between 12:30 and 1 pm if I remember correctly.

P.S. Clare looked pretty lonely over at the PGI booth, I figured she would be getting mad subscriptions.

[Clare]

P.S. Clare looked pretty lonely over at the PGI booth, I figured she would be getting mad subscriptions.

We actually got a very good amount of subscriptions but Jason and I had slow periods when the traffic wasn't very heavy on our side of the building. Though, we packed up everything early on Sunday since we ran out of magazines after we got rushed. I spent the rest of the time at the bunkerking table. :)

http://www.beayoungs.com/images/pbxpo/gang.jpg

[TraXeR]

Originally posted by CaPoEiRa


We actually got a very good amount of subscriptions but Jason and I had slow periods when the traffic wasn't very heavy on our side of the building. Though, we packed up everything early on Sunday since we ran out of magazines after we got rushed. I spent the rest of the time at the bunkerking table. :)

http://www.beayoungs.com/images/pbxpo/gang.jpg

That dark hat on the far right looks sweet, I might pick one up.