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Shocker9
03-27-2004, 05:39 PM
why do people like mags so much

OysterBoy
03-27-2004, 05:43 PM
Let see.....
-Highest Recharge Rate (X-Valve)
-Most Foolproof Antichop System (Level 10)
-Great Upgrade Potential
-Get-What-You-Pay-For-And-More
-Light
-Once Again, Fast
-Incredibly Fast For Mechs
-(Once NiCads Frame Comes Out) Fastest Mech, Lighter Pull Then Electros

Just to name a few reasons...

penguinpunk555
03-27-2004, 05:46 PM
PWNED!!!!!!!

Shocker9
03-27-2004, 05:48 PM
mags are'nt even considered a gun where i live

OysterBoy
03-27-2004, 05:49 PM
Really? Say hi to hitler and the rednecks for me...

MagMcBride
03-27-2004, 05:51 PM
Mags are fun to shoot and never misfeed!

Butterfingers
03-27-2004, 05:52 PM
They also dont require 3 gallons of Dow33 lube, cause they are designed correctly.

Shocker9
03-27-2004, 05:52 PM
ill do that

WARPED1
03-27-2004, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by OysterBoy
Let see.....
-Highest Recharge Rate (X-Valve)
-Most Foolproof Antichop System (Level 10)
-Great Upgrade Potential
-Get-What-You-Pay-For-And-More
-Light
-Once Again, Fast
-Incredibly Fast For Mechs
-(Once NiCads Frame Comes Out) Fastest Mech, Lighter Pull Then Electros

Just to name a few reasons... What he said! Mags had become a dinosaur, then TK breathed life back into mags! He's simply a genious at designs!
People complained:
Mag bodies are heavy and ugly! So AGD designed ULE's and slugs. Then a few designed bodies from sluggos. Not to mention Xmags.
People complained about the twistlock barrel. Again, the ULE line takes cocker barrels.
People complained the frame sucked. So AGD made intelliframes.
People said "mags are blenders/chop too much". So AGD developed Level 10.
:) :D

Shocker9
03-27-2004, 05:59 PM
yeah the shockers low pressure, great accuracy, great speed, light body,and small size are just a terrible design.

OysterBoy
03-27-2004, 06:01 PM
no, their gas-hogginess, t-shirt-shooting valve are. And you really must not be too knowledgable or you'd know accuracy is dependent of the paint and barrel used.

MagMcBride
03-27-2004, 06:03 PM
I dont know man, I have a Mag and is sucks air out so fast it is crazy...I get like 600 shots out of mine with my 68/3k Max Flo.

Edit- I DO have a classic so I dont know how good the RT/X-Valves are on air..

powerofthegospel
03-27-2004, 06:03 PM
yeah the shockers low pressure, great accuracy, great speed, light body,and small size are just a terrible design.

and don't forget about the shocker's pricetag...it's only about twice that of a mag.

J.J.

MagMcBride
03-27-2004, 06:04 PM
Dude the Shocker Vision is only like 900 bucks....that is not too bad!

Shocker9
03-27-2004, 06:05 PM
yeah because nobody going to pay over $600 for a mag

OysterBoy
03-27-2004, 06:08 PM
Oh really...


goto www.jayloo.com check out all the E, X, and custom mags, most of which have more the 600.00 put into them.

With that price you get a quality much....


you know what why the hell am I arguing this? I cant sway the minds of those who lack the intelligence to understand, or those who have the ignorance to not want to understand.

Butterfingers
03-27-2004, 06:11 PM
I do cause the current production mags are just as light if not lighter...

Faster... http://paintball.butters.org

More reliable...

And with level 10... Break less paint.

http://www.airgun.com/xmag/html/LEV10E.avi

So yes I will pay for somthing that is better...

I will not pay for somthing because SMART PARTS TOLD me it was better...

Ov3rmind
03-27-2004, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Shocker9
yeah the shockers low pressure,

Which doesn't really accomplish anything.

great accuracy,

Like all pb guns with good regs and a good barrel.

great speed,

As far as high end guns, the speed is average.

light body, and small size

I'll give it that.

are just a terrible design.

Don't forget the crappy efficiency, weak threads, piss poor anodizing, soft aluminum, and absence of LPR (Wow, they actually managed to make that mistake on TWO guns).

Shocker9
03-27-2004, 06:16 PM
really because mine came with a lpr

penguinpunk555
03-27-2004, 06:18 PM
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

you my friend have a great absense of power.

James
03-27-2004, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by MagMcBride
Dude the Shocker Vision is only like 900 bucks....that is not too bad! and smart parts vision system sucks as it is if your gonna buy smart parts you dont need vision..
better off without it.

Ov3rmind
03-27-2004, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Shocker9
really because mine came with a lpr
Which Shocker did you happen to make the mistake of buying?

Shocker9
03-27-2004, 06:22 PM
03 Shocker with vision and a new 68/45 max-flo

MagMcBride
03-27-2004, 06:23 PM
Dude, I have a mag, I love em' but my bud's 03 shocker is really sweet, and the vision works well as long as you stay away from dark paint and mixing colors.

Bad_Dog
03-27-2004, 06:23 PM
sounds like someone just wants to compare their shocker to the mag...


it's not worth arguing... if you dont appreciate mags, it's your decision; every person likes a different type of marker... there are no set rules.

James
03-27-2004, 06:24 PM
This thread is stupid.
what the point of this??
its like me going on a smart parts forum
hey why do you like smart parts!
different folks different strokes.
simple as that. you like your shocker good for you.
we like our mags so be it.
who really cares.
its like cars some like ford some like chevy.

penguinpunk555
03-27-2004, 06:24 PM
Post pictures of your sexy mags and show him how smart parts tired to be like them with their body design.

James
03-27-2004, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by MagMcBride
Dude, I have a mag, I love em' but my bud's 03 shocker is really sweet, and the vision works well as long as you stay away from dark paint and mixing colors.
exactly if smart parts was so smart they would have 2 eyes so it wouldnt matter with what type of paint you shoot.
i am sure with a 900$ they should be smart enough to let you shoot any paint you want.mixing or not.

Butterfingers
03-27-2004, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by MagMcBride
Dude, I have a mag, I love em' but my bud's 03 shocker is really sweet, and the vision works well as long as you stay away from dark paint and mixing colors.

Wow... that must suck if your feild uses dark paint and multi color shells...

Ov3rmind
03-27-2004, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Shocker9
03 Shocker with vision and a new 68/45 max-flo
Oh, I've heard about that. Isn't it the Amazing Invisible LPR?

Butterfingers
03-27-2004, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Ov3rmind

Oh, I've heard about that. Isn't it the Amazing Invisible LPR?

Yeah so invisible that it dosent exist :p

Shocker9
03-27-2004, 06:28 PM
you mean the invisible lpr that im holding right now.

MagMcBride
03-27-2004, 06:28 PM
Dude the 03 Shocker has a reg in the grip...

Ov3rmind
03-27-2004, 06:28 PM
Post a picture of it.

Shocker9
03-27-2004, 06:29 PM
i would but i dont have a digital camera

Ov3rmind
03-27-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by MagMcBride
Dude the 03 Shocker has a reg in the grip...
Yeah, it does; an inline regulator. An inline reg and an LPR are two different things.

Butterfingers
03-27-2004, 06:30 PM
YOUR MAX FLOW is not a LPR.

An LPR is a reg that brings down the input pressure FROM your Maxflow into your pnumatics used to fire the gun

It results in better performance and more tunability... and also results in better consistency. It seperates the firing cycle from the propulsion air.

penguinpunk555
03-27-2004, 06:30 PM
Shockers don't have LPRs give us a link to one of the shockers with the LPR.

Butterfingers
03-27-2004, 06:31 PM
Ahh the power of knowledge... looks like sombody learned today...

MagMcBride
03-27-2004, 06:33 PM
ok well a shocker has a INLINE reg then....here's one on ebay...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3668197641&category=16048#ebayphotohosting

Butterfingers
03-27-2004, 06:33 PM
So does every other high/ midrange gun

MagMcBride
03-27-2004, 06:35 PM
ok...dont say the shocker doesnt have a reg then...and remember I like mags, so don't butcher me at supper tonight ok baby?

Butterfingers
03-27-2004, 06:37 PM
we never said it didnt have a reg... we said it didnt have an LPR which is somthing completely diffrent.

Ov3rmind
03-27-2004, 06:37 PM
No one was saying the Shocker doesn't have a reg. Numerous people were saying it didn't have an LPR though.

penguinpunk555
03-27-2004, 06:38 PM
http://www.hunt101.com/img/125502.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=125502&c=500&z=1)


Here is a shocker with vision. As you can see it doesn't have a LPR.

Shocker9
03-27-2004, 06:38 PM
so why do people like mags so much?

Butterfingers
03-27-2004, 06:39 PM
Read above...

punkncat
03-27-2004, 06:39 PM
I like mags just because I do.
I have to admit that the Shocker is a really sexy marker.It feels just like my mag though.

Oh and Vision sux bawls

James
03-27-2004, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by Shocker9
so why do people like mags so much?
you need to be banned already.

penguinpunk555
03-27-2004, 06:40 PM
Read the first page.

Shocker9
03-27-2004, 06:40 PM
banned for my opinion

Ov3rmind
03-27-2004, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Shocker9
so why do people like mags so much?
It was already answered several times. But just for fun, I'll throw in my opinion:

- Small
- Damn reliable
- Easy to disassemble
- Almost no maintanence
- Great company backing it
- Balances out great
- Lvl 10 insures no chops
- When Nicad's hAir trigger comes out they're going to be insanely fast.

MagMcBride
03-27-2004, 06:41 PM
kewl thanks for informing me man, I thought somone said It didn't have a Reg on the gun....but even still how much better could the shocker get accuracy wise...I mean at like 30 yards you can get a grouping like 12" across...

Butterfingers
03-27-2004, 06:41 PM
no he dosent need to be banned he needs to read the first page...

Shocker9
03-27-2004, 06:41 PM
i like your quote, cat

James
03-27-2004, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Shocker9
banned for my opinion
no banned for ignorance your question has already been answered yet something in your mind isnt processed

Shocker9
03-27-2004, 06:45 PM
hey howes your freak and halo doing james

OysterBoy
03-27-2004, 07:21 PM
Heres the real question;

Why DONT people like mags?

Chronobreak
03-28-2004, 02:39 PM
bleh i cant beleive a kid whos shooting a wannabe mag is asking why we like ours so much i think he should get a mag for himself b/c he obviously has never owned one ;)

spacedtedybear
03-28-2004, 03:01 PM
so why do people like mags so much?
Stop flame bating moron. We've already given reasons why people like mags. Maybe you should pull your head out of your a** and read the thread.


banned for my opinion
No banned for useless assertions. Opinions are personal feelings about a certain fact. You have yet to have stated a fact about a mag, or even responded to anyone who have replied their reason for liking mags.

warbeak2099
03-28-2004, 07:34 PM
That's really sad that he doesn't even know the difference between an lpr and an inline reg and he's toting a $900 marker. He probably hasn't even been playing that long. Oh, and let me add another up mags have on sp guns. NO SHOOTDOWN. SP guns are notorious for experiencing shootdown at the speeds an x-valved mag can shoot at without shootdown. So, you'll never be able to fire faster than an x-valved mag with the same consistancy. Sure the 03 shocker is said to be able to fire 30bps, but an x-valved mag will always be more consistant. Don't flame unless you know what you're talking about. You've probably never even seen a mag in person much less used one. If you can't win an argument don't start one. And here's another hint, when you've already gotten pwned, GIVE IT UP!

Head knight of Ni
03-28-2004, 07:41 PM
The freakin' shocker was someone elses design!!!!
-my motto for smart parts is "We dont steal designs we just buy them. Patents on the other hand."

SP probably would've slapped another usless $600 features on the old shoe boxes.:mad:

I like my Mag for one reason its more a part of me than a tool I use. :D

Viva le Mech'

Carbon
03-28-2004, 07:51 PM
Mods please close this thread. It is reminessecent of a PBN thread. Please.

Head knight of Ni
03-28-2004, 07:54 PM
Its sad but you dont poke a bees nest.:p

Carbon
03-28-2004, 08:21 PM
well yes it is sad, but the fact this silly post has gone three pages!? Are the mods slippin?