GoatBoy
04-06-2004, 01:29 AM
Ever get into a paintball discussion, and someone breaks out with:
[anonymous] well then
[anonymous] being helpless while i reload
[anonymous] just what i need
[GoatBoy] you're helpless when you reload, regardless
[anonymous] haha.
[anonymous] i'm not.
[anonymous] i keep my gun upw hen i reload.
[GoatBoy] yeah and your eyes down.
[anonymous] learn to do it properly and you don't have to put your gun down
[anonymous] uh, no.
[anonymous] what the ---- do i need to look at?
[anonymous] i know where my hopper is, i know where my pods are
or how about:
[anonymous2] A) who looks at their pods when reloading
[anonymous] i can't shoot as fast or anything
[anonymous] anonymous2: THANK YOU
[anonymous2] B) who stops shootng
[anonymous] another person who knows what the ---- they're doing.
[anonymous] anonymous2: you keep your gun up and eyes where your'e shooting when you're reloading right?
[anonymous2] I reload with my gun up and the trigger rolling
[anonymous] good.
[anonymous] me too.
[anonymous] only thing is i can't walk
[anonymous2] running/shooting/sliding
[anonymous] i just use one finger to shoot to keep my gun more steady
[GoatBoy] i'd really just like to see videos of reloads
[anonymous2] your guns up and your shootng all the tme
Names have been changed to protect the guilty.
It's come up in these forums too from time to time.
Anyways, it's been sort of a pet project of mine to watch people as they reload. Well, I decided to go through whatever videos came my way just too look for reloads... and here's what I found.
Starting with the the two clips that J&C linked:
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130356
(first video)
2:11 reloading with gun down, really long time (like 10 secs?)
5:56 reloading with gun down, about 8 seconds from when he reaches back; misses the guy crossing the field AND moving up in the snake in front of him
(second video)
1:34 lid open, actually doing what supposedly is prescribed. shot while reloading, drops entire pod on ground.
Then I flipped over and watched the 2004 PSP LA Open via PigTV
(Part 1)
6:00 4 second reload, gun down, not firing
6:27 in snake, gun down at least 4-5 seconds
8:20 gun down again
9:31 gun down again
(Part 2)
9:44 gun down, not firing, for about 3 seconds, pretty much didn't see the guy flanking him
10:19 looking down at hopper, gun down, about 7 seconds
(Part 3)
0:54 obviously not watching, unknown how long he was not paying attention
2:00 pulled back into snake, obviously not shooting, fiddling with hopper?
2:06 gun down, not shooting, 8 seconds, evidently can't reload with off hand?
3:09 gun's down again, not shooting; 10 seconds?!
4:52 6 seconds, not shooting
5:29 gun down, not shooting, looks like about 3 seconds
8:00 shot with pod in hand
Edit: Tonight's review is sponsored by the letters "B" and "S". Oh, and when I say "gun down", it should be obvious that the operator's not shooting, and not ready to shoot.
PigTV; Mardi Gras Open 2004
(Part 1)
3:29 turned around, reaching for pod? shot.
6:44 ohhh very sneaky, back to the camera, but we know what he was doing. head down, gun down, reloading, min 5 secs
(Part 2)
0:29 head down, eyes down, gun down, about 3-4 seconds
0:59 gun down, not shooting, camera pans off
6:30 4 seconds, head up looking, but not shooting
7:52 gun down, looks down to fill pod, 3-4 seconds of non shooting
8:11 Ronald McDonald has gun down, looks down to fill pod, 3-4 seconds again
8:50 HOLY COW! His gun's up (although i don't hear him firing); he did look down briefly to see what he was doing, and I found it very humorous that he stopped to close the lid on his pod before tossing it
Ronald McDonald wins that game!!!
(Part 3)
0:09 gun down, 4 seconds
0:22 gun down, not shooting, shot on arm
2:17 guns down, looking up but still glances down, 3 seconds, excellent hang time on pod toss
little later guy's in the x, reaches back for pod, gun's clearly down
3:01 WHOAH! ANOTHER WINNER! However, he's not firing (much?), and he does look down. also wonder why he has to switch hands to load as he's shooting out the left of his bunker, but holding the gun with his right as he reloads... loses time switching gun back to correct hand after reload.
3:43 gun down, talking to teammate, can't tell how long it takes
4:24 this guy's the reloading champion; i think it's his third reload. he's not shooting while doing it though 4-5 seconds
6:36 gun drops, looking out, at least 5 seconds
7:28 gun drops, watching his pod/hopper, 10-11 seconds
7:51 gun drops, at least 10 seconds pass before camera cuts away, and he still hasn't reloaded
Note that I didn't pick and choose the reloads... these were ALL the reloads from these two sets of videos. The only person who reloaded "correctly" so far was shot doing so.
Anybody have anything to add? Preferably "pro" stuff, since nobody is able to make an argument without "pro" backing.
[anonymous] well then
[anonymous] being helpless while i reload
[anonymous] just what i need
[GoatBoy] you're helpless when you reload, regardless
[anonymous] haha.
[anonymous] i'm not.
[anonymous] i keep my gun upw hen i reload.
[GoatBoy] yeah and your eyes down.
[anonymous] learn to do it properly and you don't have to put your gun down
[anonymous] uh, no.
[anonymous] what the ---- do i need to look at?
[anonymous] i know where my hopper is, i know where my pods are
or how about:
[anonymous2] A) who looks at their pods when reloading
[anonymous] i can't shoot as fast or anything
[anonymous] anonymous2: THANK YOU
[anonymous2] B) who stops shootng
[anonymous] another person who knows what the ---- they're doing.
[anonymous] anonymous2: you keep your gun up and eyes where your'e shooting when you're reloading right?
[anonymous2] I reload with my gun up and the trigger rolling
[anonymous] good.
[anonymous] me too.
[anonymous] only thing is i can't walk
[anonymous2] running/shooting/sliding
[anonymous] i just use one finger to shoot to keep my gun more steady
[GoatBoy] i'd really just like to see videos of reloads
[anonymous2] your guns up and your shootng all the tme
Names have been changed to protect the guilty.
It's come up in these forums too from time to time.
Anyways, it's been sort of a pet project of mine to watch people as they reload. Well, I decided to go through whatever videos came my way just too look for reloads... and here's what I found.
Starting with the the two clips that J&C linked:
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130356
(first video)
2:11 reloading with gun down, really long time (like 10 secs?)
5:56 reloading with gun down, about 8 seconds from when he reaches back; misses the guy crossing the field AND moving up in the snake in front of him
(second video)
1:34 lid open, actually doing what supposedly is prescribed. shot while reloading, drops entire pod on ground.
Then I flipped over and watched the 2004 PSP LA Open via PigTV
(Part 1)
6:00 4 second reload, gun down, not firing
6:27 in snake, gun down at least 4-5 seconds
8:20 gun down again
9:31 gun down again
(Part 2)
9:44 gun down, not firing, for about 3 seconds, pretty much didn't see the guy flanking him
10:19 looking down at hopper, gun down, about 7 seconds
(Part 3)
0:54 obviously not watching, unknown how long he was not paying attention
2:00 pulled back into snake, obviously not shooting, fiddling with hopper?
2:06 gun down, not shooting, 8 seconds, evidently can't reload with off hand?
3:09 gun's down again, not shooting; 10 seconds?!
4:52 6 seconds, not shooting
5:29 gun down, not shooting, looks like about 3 seconds
8:00 shot with pod in hand
Edit: Tonight's review is sponsored by the letters "B" and "S". Oh, and when I say "gun down", it should be obvious that the operator's not shooting, and not ready to shoot.
PigTV; Mardi Gras Open 2004
(Part 1)
3:29 turned around, reaching for pod? shot.
6:44 ohhh very sneaky, back to the camera, but we know what he was doing. head down, gun down, reloading, min 5 secs
(Part 2)
0:29 head down, eyes down, gun down, about 3-4 seconds
0:59 gun down, not shooting, camera pans off
6:30 4 seconds, head up looking, but not shooting
7:52 gun down, looks down to fill pod, 3-4 seconds of non shooting
8:11 Ronald McDonald has gun down, looks down to fill pod, 3-4 seconds again
8:50 HOLY COW! His gun's up (although i don't hear him firing); he did look down briefly to see what he was doing, and I found it very humorous that he stopped to close the lid on his pod before tossing it
Ronald McDonald wins that game!!!
(Part 3)
0:09 gun down, 4 seconds
0:22 gun down, not shooting, shot on arm
2:17 guns down, looking up but still glances down, 3 seconds, excellent hang time on pod toss
little later guy's in the x, reaches back for pod, gun's clearly down
3:01 WHOAH! ANOTHER WINNER! However, he's not firing (much?), and he does look down. also wonder why he has to switch hands to load as he's shooting out the left of his bunker, but holding the gun with his right as he reloads... loses time switching gun back to correct hand after reload.
3:43 gun down, talking to teammate, can't tell how long it takes
4:24 this guy's the reloading champion; i think it's his third reload. he's not shooting while doing it though 4-5 seconds
6:36 gun drops, looking out, at least 5 seconds
7:28 gun drops, watching his pod/hopper, 10-11 seconds
7:51 gun drops, at least 10 seconds pass before camera cuts away, and he still hasn't reloaded
Note that I didn't pick and choose the reloads... these were ALL the reloads from these two sets of videos. The only person who reloaded "correctly" so far was shot doing so.
Anybody have anything to add? Preferably "pro" stuff, since nobody is able to make an argument without "pro" backing.