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jdev
04-16-2004, 10:23 AM
bin laden tape; calls for truce with european countries..


The CIA says a tape claiming to be the voice of Osama bin Laden and offering a truce with Europe is probably authentic.


European states have dismissed the offer - which says countries will not be targets of terrorism if they withdraw troops from Muslim nations.

"After conducting a technical analysis, CIA assesses that the voice on the audio tape aired on Arab TV today is likely that of Osama bin Laden," a CIA official said.

The al Qaeda chief used the message to swear revenge on Israel for assassinating Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin on March 22.

And he said there would be no truce with the US.

Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain and France spurned what they suggested was an attempt to drive a wedge between Europe and America.

Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said the attempt "cannot and will not succeed because everybody knows that there is only one side on which the international community can be in the fight against terrorism.

"This is a murderous organisation which seeks impossible objectives by the most violent of means."

The message also says the March 11 train bombings in Madrid were revenge for Spain's participation in the US-led war on terror.

Almost 200 people were killed and more than 1,500 injured in the attacks.

The tape was aired on Dubai-based al Arabiya television, which says it was sent the audio tape.

Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said discussing a peace deal apparently offered by Osama bin Laden to European countries would be "unthinkable".

A German government spokesman said: "There can be no negotiations with terrorists and serious criminals like Osama bin Laden."

French president Jacques Chirac also said there would be no discussion with a terror group.

"Terrorism is a barbarous act that attacks innocent people. One cannot lean on religion or any other motivation to perpetrate terrorist acts," he said.

Poland dismissed the offer as a "trick" designed to prey on heightened fears after the al Qaeda-linked train bombings in Madrid.

"It would be a big, big mistake if people buy that, because it is an offer made by a terrorist," Polish Foreign Minister Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz said.


story here: http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1131392,00.html
and also another one on reuters: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=4832567&section=news

FactsOfLife
04-16-2004, 10:57 AM
Sure, we'll have a truce. And we'll sign the treaty over your slowly cooling body.

cphilip
04-16-2004, 11:10 AM
I think its very telling that everyone knows the issue here. And no one is going to negotiate with terrorists in any way. Your obviously giving them credibility if you do as if they were a proper country and properly representing someone. In fact most Muslims would be appalled if you let these groups represent them. Most of them condem terrorism. You would be doing THEM a great injustice to even listen to these nut cases.

silentdeath55
04-16-2004, 11:37 AM
Cphil is right, we will not negotiate with terrorists. Doing so will only lead to more bad things. Osama Bin Laden is not going to stop terrorizing the world now, he is in to much trouble.

slateman
04-16-2004, 12:02 PM
All of Europe is gonna reject it...except France.

France is gonna surrender :D :D

silentdeath55
04-16-2004, 12:11 PM
http://www.donaldchase.com/images/french_army_knife.jpg

you've probably all seen this, but while we're on the topic of french and surrendering..

PyRo
04-16-2004, 12:47 PM
I'm suprised France didn't push for the truce.
Maybie they're starting to grow some balls?

Buff
04-16-2004, 01:14 PM
I think for them to start growing balls, they would have to start with something little atleast......

FactsOfLife
04-16-2004, 01:33 PM
Just listened to the transcript.


Unreal, it sounds like it was written by MoveOn.org....

1stdeadeye
04-16-2004, 02:36 PM
Sad, just sad!!!

Europe should accept. Osama just needs to fly into Paris to sign it!! We could even provide the plane to fly him in. If he wants, we can provide the f-18 fighter escorts too!

If he makes it to Paris is a different matter! :D

BOOM!!! No more Osama!!!

PyRo
04-16-2004, 03:11 PM
But then they would get more pissed off and someone would just take his place :(

1stdeadeye
04-16-2004, 04:32 PM
But then they would get more pissed off and someone would just take his place :(

Here lies the great fallacy in the arguments don't cut off the head as another will sprout in it's place. Kill Osama, kill his lieutenants. More will pop up yes, but if they were as good or talented as the first group they would be leading, wouldn't they? Eventually the group is run by morons who can't help but get caught. Look at the mob as an example. Today John Gotti's brother was sentanced for running the Gambino crime family. He is the latest to fall. They got John over a long time. John, Jr. not so long. Peter pretty quick. Kill the leaders then watch the leftover morons ascend! :D

Gadget
04-16-2004, 04:49 PM
They kept the assassinations of all those american presidents pretty quiet. ;)

1stdeadeye
04-16-2004, 04:55 PM
They kept the assassinations of all those american presidents pretty quiet. ;)

:rolleyes: ..

PyRo
04-16-2004, 05:38 PM
Here lies the great fallacy in the arguments don't cut off the head as another will sprout in it's place. Kill Osama, kill his lieutenants. More will pop up yes, but if they were as good or talented as the first group they would be leading, wouldn't they? Eventually the group is run by morons who can't help but get caught. Look at the mob as an example. Today John Gotti's brother was sentanced for running the Gambino crime family. He is the latest to fall. They got John over a long time. John, Jr. not so long. Peter pretty quick. Kill the leaders then watch the leftover morons ascend! :D

I used to pass John Gotti's house almost every day, the last time I went by the gate was open, I wonder how quickly I would have been shot by someone if I went in :)

slateman
04-16-2004, 06:06 PM
Sad, just sad!!!

Europe should accept. Osama just needs to fly into Paris to sign it!! We could even provide the plane to fly him in. If he wants, we can provide the f-18 fighter escorts too!

If he makes it to Paris is a different matter! :D

BOOM!!! No more Osama!!!


And even better. No more Paris ;) :D :D