ROF on Mag with Single Trig

[Blackice7]

I was wondering as a basic AVERAGE! I know it changes from person to person, but what is the AVERAGE ROF for a Classic Valve with a Single Trig Frame?

[spasticsquirrel]

i got 7 bps with just pulling the trigger normaly, but i have a ULT.

[Xas]

5-7 depending on your trigger skills

[lldb003]

with my classic valve i was gettin it up to 9-10 a sec then i went to the x-valve and now i am doin atleast 15-17 a sec styll with the single trigger hopefully when i get my blade trigger i will get it faster who knows

[teufelhunden]

with my classic valve i was gettin it up to 9-10 a sec then i went to the x-valve and now i am doin atleast 15-17 a sec styll with the single trigger hopefully when i get my blade trigger i will get it faster who knows

I'm calling BS right here. You aren't doing 15-17 on a single mech trigger.

Mech 'Mags are slow and will be slow til the hAir trigger comes out. 5-7 is all you'll get out of it, but you'll need to practice so you can do it without short stroking.

[lldb003]

i have a x-valve now not the classic valve ne more

[teufelhunden]

You're still not doing 15-17 unless you're in runaway.

If you aren't BSing, prove it.

[lldb003]

how u want me to prove it????

[RoadDawg]

Xvalves improve performance but a mech trigger unless it's bouncing around won't go real high since it's impossible to walk a non ult setup. Now with a ULT I'd believe 12-14 bps w/ a double trigger setup due to the fact if set up real light they can be walkable.

Single trigger classics... I'd say 6ish on a good setup.

[fcpchop]

yes please proove it, there is no way that u are shooting 15-17 bps with a single trigger mag. A friggin emag with V1.37 caps at 16 bps, i highly doubt u are outshootin an emag :rolleyes:

[lldb003]

my borther has a e-mag and i out do him

[fcpchop]

hahahahah, o man thats funny, u wish man. only way that could happen is if he has the slowest moving fingers ever, i want to c a video or some proof because i dont think a single person on this board believes you, including me

[lldb003]

i will get u a vid of me and my borther goin at it and i will prove that i can go faster than his e-mag also i beat him cause his trigger is pretty much stock he lightend it a lil but other than that he didn't touch it

[teufelhunden]

Do it one gun at a time so I can do a sound analysis.

[lldb003]

first i will do em 1 by one then i will do them at the same time ok

[OysterBoy]

Please do, I also would like to do a sound analysis on it.

I am average to good at walking, and I top out at 7bps. I can get a mech spyder to 11 though ;)

[lldb003]

ok like i said i will i will get it done this weekend when we go out and play

[68magOwner]

no way to get 17bps on single trigger mech mag LEGALLY, absolutely no way with human fingers, although ive seen a darn fast single triggered excal, and a fast single triggered angel too

[fcpchop]

o man i cant wait to hear this video, btw how do u know how fast u are shooting?

[FalconGuy016]

15-17 on a single trigger? lol, sorry, no
People get 15-17 on a double trigger electro for a reason, cause they basically have two "triggers" going on at once. If you got 15-17 out of a single trigger you are in runaway

[68_Classic]

what is that guy thinkin: i got a mag with the ule and blade i can rip with it but i can't get 15-17

[nastymag]

on my minimag classic valve i get around 6-7 bps.
this is after shooting mags for over 3 years. its pretty hard to get much abouve that.

[TeamNausea]

Yeah, I'd guess about 6. Noob please stop saying you can do it that fast. Hes gonna vid like 2 emags and say o crap i thought that it was a single trigger clasic mag. :mad:

[nt2004]

hahaha i read the post about doing 15-17. When i started out, i had a tippmann 98c and i thought i was doing 12bps on my trigger and when i bought a response i thought it could do 17bps. Its because i had never seen someone actually fire a gun that fast and i didnt know much about bps. Today i know a standard mech isnt capable of that (unless the user has super trigger fingers or found out a way to steal a hAir trigger :D ). It is very difficult to shoot 15-17 even on a electro for me and most of the people i have met. I think this kid just needs to see footage of someone firing that fast so he can realize he is nowhere near that speed

[tyrion2323]

hehehe... 15-17 on a single mech trigger..... hehehe....

[Konigballer]

I bet we never see a vid or hear much from this kid anytime to soon. The AO BS detectors are to strong.

I wish their was a single trig frame that could do 14/15 bps, I think single trigger frames look so much better than doubles.

[GoatBoy]

I bet his hopper is feeding past his detents. *bloop* OMG I JUST SHOT 5 BALLS IN ONE SHOT!!!!!

[DementedChild]

im going to do you the favor and do a single mech trigger frame shot right now and ill back that analysis up with a single mech cocker trigger

[Bulldog]

i will get u a vid of me and my borther goin at it and i will prove that i can go faster


also i beat him


first i will do em 1 by one then i will do them at the same time ok

Sorry, just having some fun with this thread..... :)



oh, just so I'm on topic, 5-7 with a 1xmech-trigger

[DementedChild]

oops ok so this is whats its going to be

stock Mag vs a warpedcocker just so you can hear a difference

[fdrsk8boarder]

my cuz has a x valved mag with single trigger ... i out shot a halo with it .. but this isn't the full pull its with the rapid fire .. but yea its fast

[68_Classic]

how fast can u get with the x-valve man??? i can get fast but not close to to what that kid said

[FooTemps]

I've hit 9 bps on more than one occasion with a 1x classic mag. No, it wasn't constant speed, I was holding maybe a 6 bps and then I had a quick twitch for a short burst and hit about 9-ish.

[DementedChild]

heres the movie http://www.pagibbs.net/~jwolfgang/mag_0001.wmv

[DementedChild]

sorry bout the b&w and the minor miss saying, i quote my cocker can do 15 sec i ment my cocker is faster than the mag everything is peach.

[teufelhunden]

heres the movie http://www.pagibbs.net/~jwolfgang/mag_0001.wmv


I didn't know 10 yr vets short stroke :)

[DementedChild]

ima 10 year vet but ima 4 week user of a mag

[fdrsk8boarder]

nice video ... i've never seen a mag shot with co2 tho ... any better or worse then using nitrous ?

[SpecialBlend2786]

with my classic valve i was gettin it up to 9-10 a sec then i went to the x-valve and now i am doin atleast 15-17 a sec styll with the single trigger hopefully when i get my blade trigger i will get it faster who knows
HAHAHAHAHA yeah, maybe after he gets his blade he'll be going above 20 :rolleyes:

But on my Minimag w/ the single trigger frame i get an average of 6 i'd say.

[SpecialBlend2786]

nice vid, I think thats the first time i've seen a warp on a cocker.

Using CO2 by accident haha.

[eddie885221]

the classic and minimag valve has been clocked tops at about 8 bps, this kid said he was doin 10 with a single trigger? :cough: BS!!!!! :cough:

[Intellimag]

You guys are dumb, dont you think they could possibly be cyborgs sent back through time to save the futre and post on forums? It amazes me on how you guys didnt think of this. Im ashamed.

hehe

[Evil1]

Does anyone remember the guy's name on the old mag instructional video? He was hammering on a classic mag at like 9 bps and the mag had a single trigger. I don't even think doubles were thought of in 91 or 92 when the video was made. Anyway, the guy shooting at 9 bps sounded extremely fast. It sounded like full auto, so if anyone can pull that on a classic or an xvalve w/ a single trigger, that is awesome, but 15-17 bps there is no way in hell that could happen. I doubt it could even be done with a single trigger with ULT.

[SpecialBlend2786]

Does anyone remember the guy's name on the old mag instructional video? He was hammering on a classic mag at like 9 bps and the mag had a single trigger. I don't even think doubles were thought of in 91 or 92 when the video was made. Anyway, the guy shooting at 9 bps sounded extremely fast. It sounded like full auto, so if anyone can pull that on a classic or an xvalve w/ a single trigger, that is awesome, but 15-17 bps there is no way in hell that could happen. I doubt it could even be done with a single trigger with ULT.
Yeahh I remember that video!
When I first saw that I was like "WHOAA thats fast"
That guy was the guy from Team Swarm I believe

[DementedChild]

yeah its a rare thing to see a warpped cocker, the thing is heavy but i love it my profile is soooooo small

[gc82000]

ok, I got to about 15-17 bps max :D , then I woke up and and went to the feild was crushed to realize I have a mech mag and can top out at 7 bps with an egg 2:rolleyes: .
But with an angel I achieved a high of 23 bps :p , and that is the truth :p .
If llbd003 does do his video and does what he says. I think his brother is the nices guy in the world. A loser, cannot out shoot a classic mag, but really nice.

[ZapTheMad]

I can pull 6 or 7 while aiming with a double. I can't imagine that it's much slower with a single. I can probly do 8 to 10 while twitching the hand real fast, but then I'm not really aiming either :)

[68_Classic]

didn't that kid say he had a x-valve?? o well i don't think he can do 15-17 maybe 10-12 if he gets lucky but other than that i don't think so.. and nice video demented nice cocker

[DementedChild]

x valve or not the trigger pull on a single trigger is heavy as a mofo, its not the valve thats making him shoot faster its the trigger frame a stock trigger frame as one of the hardest pulls you could have not even brass eagle has that heavy of a trigger pull

[68_Classic]

lmao tru tru maybe i will do a video so u can tell me how fast u think i am doin iight cause i got a classic with a x-valve and a ult so i should be doin good

[prikkaboo]

i used to hit bursts of 9 with my old school classic micro mag over a red chrono. i averaged around seven though most of the time.

[gc82000]

Yo demented are you a lefty or righty because you use both in the video. and has anyone done the sound analysis on the vidoe. I will check in later. Oh yeah I love the self rating of you video, G my a**. :D

[DementedChild]

im both, i use my mag as a righty, and my cocker is a left which i like cause no one really shoots left, and ive been playing since 94 i got out of the sport for like 2 years now im back in full swing of things again. vet yes, pro no.

[gc82000]

this is what I Hate about being on guam no one is online when I need answers :mad:
But then again I live on a tropical island with thousands of bueatiful women. :D
and I can paintball year around. yep it is paradise.

[gc82000]

except for demented child. thanks for the reply.

[Enemy]

ive out ran my ricochet dont know how but it happened... most of the time i can hit 6-7 doubles put me in the 10-12 range but that is an estimation never had the chance to put proof to that..as far as 15-17 i remember not to long ago alot of companies said that a person couldnt go past 12 bps now we are seeing marks in the 20s..im sure his x valve is runing away with it..oh and one more thing i have seen a 98 in upper reaches of 16 but that was with rt and massive runaway..

[Ginjiroku]

with my classic valve i was gettin it up to 9-10 a sec then i went to the x-valve and now i am doin atleast 15-17 a sec styll with the single trigger hopefully when i get my blade trigger i will get it faster who knows
It's not humanly possible to shoot that fast with a single finger on a mech mag or any mech marker.

[DementedChild]

my vid proves it! :D

[DementedChild]

btw if anyone wants to know how much that beast weights here ya go

i had nothing better to do at 1am

http://www.pagibbs.net/~jwolfgang/1am.wmv

[danheneise]

nice video ... i've never seen a mag shot with co2 tho ... any better or worse then using nitrous ?

of course CO2 is beter than NITROUS, it won't blow up, now Compressed AIR is much more safer and is much better and cleaner than CO2 :D sorry i just had to be an *** about that

[fdrsk8boarder]

lol yea .. but u knew what i meant

[Paintball_4_Fun]

I'm calling BS right here. You aren't doing 15-17 on a single mech trigger.

Mech 'Mags are slow and will be slow til the hAir trigger comes out. 5-7 is all you'll get out of it, but you'll need to practice so you can do it without short stroking.


What about the Guy on my Automag tape ( the one that comes wiith the clasic 68) Some guy on there is shooting ( Dry firing ) 13.5 pulls a sec.

[fcpchop]

hahahahahahahaha isn't that funny, lldb003 still hasn't gotten a movie, what a surprise that is. he didn't even post back again. there is no need to lie just to sound cool, we all know that was ovious bs, and there is no way he out shoots the emag.

[68_Classic]

lmao who what was he thinkin

[DementedChild]

hahahahahahahaha isn't that funny, lldb003 still hasn't gotten a movie, what a surprise that is. he didn't even post back again. there is no need to lie just to sound cool, we all know that was ovious bs, and there is no way he out shoots the emag.


doesnt matter i owned him

[DementedChild]

of course CO2 is beter than NITROUS, it won't blow up, now Compressed AIR is much more safer and is much better and cleaner than CO2 :D sorry i just had to be an *** about that


i say nitrous for my paintball gun too all the time cause im to lazy to say nitrogen or hpa, but co2 on the mag is sort of ok until water leaks into the valve system and then it will get frozen very very fast

[desslock]

I dont have time to read all the posts, Iam at work. So if somebody already brought this up Iam sorry for the repeat info. But check out the instructional video that comes with ur 68 classic mag. Near the end of the video Tom introduces some surly little dude with a mullet, from some long defunct team. Mullet boy is pulling around 13 bps if I remember correctly, its been a while since I watched the vid. It was on a classic 68 stock single trigger frame, way before the days of the ULT. So yes you can get over 8 bps if you sport a mullet.

[steveo356]

i used to get 8-10 on my single trigger if i remeber correctly nto in strings thogh with like 4-5 shot burst then i got double n i loss my abbility to a rip a single trigger that takes a brick to pull

[thatguy68]

I guess its time for me to grow a badass mullet. I wanna rip 13 on a mech.

[Evil1]

My one friend had mags for years and could rip on any mech gun, spyders, cockers, mags, you name it, he could rip on it. I'm not sure how fast he was, but you could definitely distinguish him firing on a field full of other players, he was that much faster. But when the electros came in to play, he totally sucked at firing fast, he cannot walk a trigger for the life of him. He sucks at firing my 03 shocker fast and he can fire my 3.2 emag faster in mech mode than e mode unless he gets lucky and manages to hit the trigger a few extra times. He is the only one of my paintball buddies not to go electro and has been shooting a 96 evolution cocker w/ hinge frame and a Jeff Orr 3 way for some time now and can hold his own on a field full of electros.

[SpecialBlend2786]

hahaha dude, DementedChild
The credits were almost as long as the actual movie :p