VL Envy

[yeahitsdave]

hey everyone, just wanted to see what everyone's opinions of the new vl envy are? im getting a new loader and am torn between that and a halo... also does it balance like the revvy? that was perfect on my angel but now im outshooting it...
thanks
dave

[TeamNausea]

HALO :cool:

[JEDI]

What is the envy? Never saw it.

[SpecialBlend2786]

The Envy is Viewloaders new force feed loader. It is clip based, and supposedly can feed at 27 bps. Looks...........interesting to say the least.

http://img43.photobucket.com/albums/v131/SpecialBlend2786/post-39-1074446924.jpg

[RT pRo AuToMaG]

Get a HALO with a Victory board, fastest battery powered loader on the market.

[WingMan13]

I would like to see it mounted on a marker. Look at the feed neck, its shorter than the back :confused: No no-rise i guess?

[ramennoodles]

videos?(ten character rule*shakes fist*)

[gc82000]

The envy is only rated at 21 bps not 27 as SB2786 said before. I saw it on the VL website. It looks kind of like a hawks head doesn't it. And the pods are 100 and 140 balls, plus they clip on to the loader. This adds onto capacity of the loader which is only about 170 balls. So 140 + 170 equals 310. This system is supposed to eliminate spills and cut loading time in half, and the pods fit any regular pack. Now this is cool! :D to bad I have my vistory halo b with rip

[Thermus]

That is the ugliest loader I have ever seen.

[ryanshep]

id like to see it in action kinda reminds me of a revy with a q loader pod on it...but thats just me...interesting....yes....interesting....

[SpecialBlend2786]

The envy is only rated at 21 bps not 27 as SB2786 said before.

ooops, my bad :o

[evan123]

I would like to see it mounted on a marker. Look at the feed neck, its shorter than the back :confused: No no-rise i guess?

No, that is just where pbstar put the name. It is the same feedneck of the eggy i am guessing.

[yeahitsdave]

i kinda like the look, and the feedneck isnt much longer in reality than the pic... im conflicted because if it balances the same as a revvy, im all over that, easier loading, same capacity and i dont particularly like the way teh halo balances on my angel, but thats just me... but if it doesnt work then theres no point in me getting it, so i wanna hear from someone who has one

[Evil Bob]

.... And the pods are 100 and 140 balls, plus they clip on to the loader. This adds onto capacity of the loader which is only about 170 balls. So 140 + 170 equals 310...

Actually, your numbers are off there a bit. The Envy, without a pod currently stuffed into it, holds about 30 balls, it is relying upon having a 140 round pod stuffed into it for its max capacity of 170 rounds.

Take a look at the pic below (from VL's web site), the section that the pod plugs into is nothing more then a little bowl with the feed neck port at the front, this section holds a very small number of balls.

-Evil Bob

[FallNAngel]

The Envy is Viewloaders new force feed loader.

You sure it's forcefed?

[coolcatpete]

crazy looking here is a crappy chopped photo of onehttp://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71196&stc=1

[Thermus]

That picture might not be exactly porportionate though, so its not of much use to us.

[Dryden]

WARNING: Thread Jack! :)

OK, for at least a partially on-topic response, the Envy is ugly as sin. But in all the talk about the Envy over the past couple of months, I never noticed that VL had redone the Revvy with a modular hopper and renamed it the tripod.

http://www.viewloader.com/images/interior_images/product/be_vl_0321.jpg

The top half comes off and is interchangeable with 140, 200, and 300 round versions. So it looks like a very well thought competitor to the Halo TSA Frontman and Backman versions. Also, just from a performance point of view, if you break the shell, you just slap a new one on ... no more transferring the electronics between games.

I also noticed something in an online store (I can't find the link right now) called the Quantum On-Demand Kit. I don't see it on VL's Web site either. Does anyone know what this is? I'm assuming it's just an eye collar for the Quantum to interrupt the constant spin?

[TheTramp]

You sure it's forcefed?


I'm sure it's not a true "forcefeed" in the same way that a Halo is. Those two paddles probably push balls into the feed (as apposed to just agitating) but there doesn't appear to be channeling. This wouldn't allow tention on the stack when the guns not shooting.

[ANGEL LCD]

i think you should get the halo...i think the envy looks fugly

[coolcatpete]

That picture might not be exactly porportionate though, so its not of much use to us.
it must be close due to the feed necks almost matching up
Pete

[Thermus]

it must be close due to the feed necks almost matching up
Pete



Good point... It looks ridiculously big then.

[SpecialBlend2786]

I dont see why Viewloader has to try out all these bizarre looks. In my opinion, Revvy's look awesome just because of their simplicity. Halos are also more traditional in their appearence.

[trains are bad]

It is clip based,

NOOO! It's MAGAZINE.


Magazine Magazine Magazine Magazine Magazine Magazine Magazine!

[The Spanish Inquisition]

Warning Thread Jack #2

We are talking about Clip based loaders and noone has mentioned the q-loader.

Qloader.com (http://qloader.com)

Anyone running one? I ordered mine last week and it should be here by Saturday. It claims 30bps and is much better looking (and compact) than any of those strange baloon looking things you guys posed.

[trains are bad]

We are talking about Clip based loaders and noone has mentioned the q-loader.


*whimper*


ouaeuoiaeoiea

[warbeak2099]

I have one, but I haven't gotten to put it on my gun yet. I'd definately rather have it than a viewloader though, I'm sure of that! I've had quite enough experience with that company and I don't want any part of them anymore. My advice would be to go for the HALO w/ victory board (35bps) or the Qloader (30bps+). If you're worried about balance, then definately get the Q.

[jwalker87]

the qloader is awesome. zero profile, which is more than you can say with ANY other loader, and it's a true clip-based loading system. The balls are pre-organized, and the clips click in and click out. And the 30bps rating is VERY conservative. The pod itslef, with no elbows, empties at close to 100bps.

[Head knight of Ni]

noticed that VL had redone the Revvy with a modular hopper and renamed it the tripod.

Saw that at the orlando PSP event. It is ugly with the largest size.

[Dryden]

and it's a true clip-based loading system. The balls are pre-organized, and the clips click in and click out. Ahhh... third time this thread, despite two tries by trains are bad to correct this.

Fellas, a 'clip' is inserted into the 'magazine,' then the 'magazine' is inserted into the gun. Clip and magazine DO NOT mean the same thing.

The QLoader is a magazine, it's not a clip.

[thecavemankevin]

Ahhh... third time this thread, despite two tries by trains are bad to correct this.

Fellas, a 'clip' is inserted into the 'magazine,' then the 'magazine' is inserted into the gun. Clip and magazine DO NOT mean the same thing.

The QLoader is a magazine, it's not a clip.

it's really not that big of a deal that they get it wrong, though it is fun watching you and trains try.


AND OMF'ING GOD THIS
http://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71196&stc=1
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HORRIBLE!!!!


regaurdless of performance, i can't wait to see one in person cause i know it will be worth a good laugh.

stupid clip based system;)

[Dryden]

it's really not that big of a deal that they get it wrong, though it is fun watching you and trains try.

AND OMF'ING GOD THIS
...
HORRIBLE!!!!

stupid clip based system;)LOL, but you're right, that is horrible. Hands down the ugliest marker I have ever seen. ;)

Dye could put dog doo in a brown paper bag and sell it for $50. :D

[coolcatpete]

That is the reason for that pic to show us how ugly/unique are markers are becoming.
Pete

[FragTek]

To clear up clips and magazines really quickly :)

A magazine is an on-gun non detachable area where shells or paintballs in our case are loaded. (ie. bolt action rifle [considering it's not a single shot], or a stock class paintball marker that uses a 10 round mounted feed system)

A clip on the other hand is a detachable and swappable ammunition feeding device. (ie. semi/full-auto handguns or rifles, the VL Envy, and the QLoader :))

Sorry to burst your guys sweet little bubbles.

[coolcatpete]

OOOOOO shot down yeah I a with frag on with this one boys
Pete

[RRfireblade]

To clear up clips and magazines really quickly :)

A magazine is an on-gun non detachable area where shells or paintballs in our case are loaded. (ie. bolt action rifle [considering it's not a single shot], or a stock class paintball marker that uses a 10 round mounted feed system)

A clip on the other hand is a detachable and swappable ammunition feeding device. (ie. semi/full-auto handguns or rifles, the VL Envy, and the QLoader :))

Sorry to burst your guys sweet little bubbles.

My bubbles are doing just fine thanks...........

A 'Clip' is a disposable bullet/projectile holding or aligning device meant to be used only for the loading or charging of a firearm and is intended to be discarded either after the loading of the 'magazine' or 'chamber' of the firearm or discharged during the firing of said firearm. (Perhaps a standard pod may be the equivalent)

A 'magazine' is for all practical purposes a 'part' of the firearm which is meant to remain with it and continually be reused/reloaded. (as in a Qloader pod or the VL-Envy pod)

;)

[coolcatpete]

well I dont know now you guys got me all confused.
Pete

[Dryden]

LOL. Gee, how about that VL Envy, huh? :D

OK. Here's a better definition I found: "In small arms terms magazine usually refers to a box, drum or tube with a spring inside to help feed the rounds."

A tube with a spring inside to help feed the rounds ... sounds like a QLoader to me. :)

[Mr. Frodo]

Clip vs magazine.... Wasn't this a Mail Call question not long ago?

[coolcatpete]

LOL. Gee, how about that VL Envy, huh? :D

OK. Here's a better definition I found: "In small arms terms magazine usually refers to a box, drum or tube with a spring inside to help feed the rounds."

A tube with a spring inside to help feed the rounds ... sounds like a QLoader to me. :)
That does sound like a Q. Hoewever why are we arguing about this. I just think that the envy is ugly aong with the DM4
Pete

[RRfireblade]

That does sound like a Q. Hoewever why are we arguing about this. I just think that the envy is ugly aong with the DM4
Pete

'Cause what the heck else are we going to do. :)

And you are correct even though the proprotions are wrong.

This may be a little bit closer.....

[FragTek]

Clips first off are not disposable, rofl...

Secondly, again, magazines operate in the same fashion as a clip but are part of the integral design of the gun and are not swappable.

Don't let these guys confuse u, im the true GUN FRK here :) (note old license plate post :D)

[RRfireblade]

http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/4653/clip-or-mag.htm


;)

[yeahitsdave]

i thought the point was to help me decide what loader to get, not discuss clips and magazines or whatever

[coolcatpete]

i thought the point was to help me decide what loader to get, not discuss clips and magazines or whatever
That is what I am trying to tell them. I think you should just get a halo with victory if you are going for speed because they look nice, they preform nice, and well they are just cool. So be cool and get one.
Pete

[trains are bad]

My bubbles are also fine...

Perhaps it's time again for the visual aids...

http://000buck.d2g.com/firearms/thereisadifference2.jpg

[coolcatpete]

I now looks to me that the envy is a clip based loader and the Q is a magasine based loader.
Pete

[Evil1]

This ugly thing is probably built like crap just like everything else vl produces these days. By all means get a halo b.

[yeahitsdave]

The only thing is is i like the pod base tubes for the envy... prevents having to load the hopper. ive had a few times dumping pods or not filling it totally, just seems easier, but i dunno how well it works and thats what im trying to get outta this thread, which just isnt happening

[yeahitsdave]

man im so jealous... i just looked at the q-loader thread, and man! everyone is all helpful... unlike here where everyone just debates clips and magazines...

[magmonkey]

Clip

http://www.korteng.com/KWjpg/M1SideAP.jpg


Magizine

http://www.tapco.com/item_pics/md/MAG0926_md.jpg

[SpecialBlend2786]

.................shesh, my bad :eek:

It's a POD BASED LOADER. there we go :)

I hope everyone is happy now....

[evildead420]

Resurrection!

whats up with it, still not out

http://www.viewloader.com/product.asp?item_num=328&fam=Electronic+Loaders

[thorn]

buy a halo. or a qloader. maybe even an evo2. but never that thing.

[RRfireblade]

Resurrection!

whats up with it, still not out

http://www.viewloader.com/product.asp?item_num=328&fam=Electronic+Loaders


Back burnered indefinately at this time.

It's going to need a bit of a remodel before it makes it to market.

[evildead420]

buy a halo. or a qloader. maybe even an evo2. but never that thing.


who said i was going to buy one. i got an evo 2 :tard:

[minimag03]

Halo