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Mrmacdude
06-04-2004, 04:50 PM
Mary Poppins. Yes.
Anyhoo

Can I use the shims that came with my new on/off on the ULT on/off to increase reactivity?

Approximately how many should I use?

Tunaman
06-04-2004, 05:02 PM
keep adding till it goes full auto then take one or 2 out for max reactivity.

Cool fool!
06-05-2004, 10:14 AM
if i dont have a ult, will adding more shims to my LX increase reactivity?

abunkerer
06-05-2004, 10:34 AM
nope. but you will get more leaks and "chuffs"

turning your air pressure up is about the only thing you can do to make the rt more reactive. other than changing your on/off pins...

Cool fool!
06-05-2004, 12:36 PM
wat do you mean changin your o off pins?

abunkerer
06-05-2004, 01:55 PM
What is your current setup, level 10? what kind of valve? what is your input psi?

on/off pins come in different lengths..the difference in lengths are very small, but it is possible that you can get more reactivity depending on this length.

reactivity is the return force of the trigger, if the return force is greater than the force needed to pull the trigger than it will shoot "reactive". this is mostly related to your input psi. Also Level 10 reduces reactivity.

Cool fool!
06-06-2004, 09:05 AM
abunkerer, my setup iz......
X-VALVe
Intelli trigger
pmi pure energy 68 3000
going into x-valve at 750-800

will a greater lenghth to my on/off increase reactivity?

abunkerer
06-06-2004, 11:32 AM
don't mess with the pin, the xvalve has plenty of reactivity. wait untill it breaks in, the trigger will have plenty of response...but no, a shorter pin will be more reactive.

t33kyboy
06-06-2004, 05:38 PM
keep adding till it goes full auto then take one or 2 out for max reactivity.

if you put alot of shims, would the trigger pull be harder?

Cool fool!
06-07-2004, 09:35 AM
since i have an intelli frAME with an x-valve, and 750-800 going into my gun, i shoud get alot of bounce on my trigger right?? :confused:

abunkerer
06-07-2004, 11:25 AM
More shims wont make the pull feel heavier.

THe intelliframe is just a really nice double trigger frame, it wont cause bounce. It might help you shoot faster than a single trigger frame though....

Cool fool!
06-08-2004, 11:29 AM
i got my x-valve yesterday and i am not gettin much reactivity as abunkerer said i would wats up????? :confused:

Dayspring
06-08-2004, 11:50 AM
If you just got it, you have to break the valve in.

Also, 800 while nice, isn't going to give you lots of bounce. A higher input pressure- 850-900+ will.

abunkerer
06-08-2004, 11:59 AM
HUH?? I never said how much reactivity you would get, how could I? I would have to make a comparison, and I didn't...

The xvalve has a reactive trigger, what more do you want? It's not going to go full auto, and it isn't going to feel like the tippmann response trigger.

Have you ever been able to sweetspot an rtmag (basically the same as xvalve)? Sweetspotting an Rt mag takes some practice, you have to put just enough pressure on the trigger to get it to go. Let the Xvalve break in, that will help, also the level 10 has to be broken in and set right, this takes a few thousand shots. The level 10 reduces reactivity, If you want more reactivity you must boost your input pressure (adjustable tank).

relax man! remember bounce is a malfunction and most fields dont allow it, and tourneys disqualify the gun for it.

Cool fool!
06-08-2004, 12:10 PM
are tippman responses fast or waT?

Dayspring
06-08-2004, 12:38 PM
Enough to be totally illegal. (If adjusted to be that way- which they can be. WITHOUT TOOLS and on the field.)

Z-man
06-08-2004, 01:11 PM
relax man! remember bounce is a malfunction...

I hate it when people say that.... But yes it is 100% tourney ILLEGAL

Here read thise and you should have a better idea of what is going on Cool Fool!

http://www.zakvetter.com/Pages/Paintball/Automags/Rapid_Fire/rf_disclaimer.html