03 cocker goodness (video with paint) sound analysis plz

[barrel break]

http://www.eengoedidee.nl/parsefiles/?type=jackass&filename=cocker_with_paint.wmv

or go to http://www.eengoedidee.nl/ and search for cocker_with_paint

03 cocker, JAM bolt, JJ ceramic, CO2, Ricochet AK

bad paint, so dont be too hard on me! :wow:

[RRfireblade]

Password........

[barrel break]

well, youve got to sign up...

but hey, its free hosting

[louie]

Catch me on AIM, i am not louie, and I'll host it so people don't have to deal with passwords.

[barrel break]

http://www.iamlouie.com/uploads/barrelbreakvid.wmv

no need to log in, all thanks to louie!

[GoatBoy]

http://www.iamlouie.com/uploads/barrelbreakvid.wmv

no need to log in, all thanks to louie!

Sounds like you're going 5-7bps, MAYBE 8.









Quicktime and WMV piss me off. :dance:

[coolcatpete]

Looks like somebody needs to learn how to wear a mask while playing with paintball markers.
Pete :mad:

[barrel break]

definately faster than 5-7, I have audacity, but no idea how to do a sound analysis.

[Blazestorm]

6-7bps

=)

I was checking it and saw 14 I was like that isn't right, then I realized the cocker makes two sounds per trigger pull...

So yah 6-7

[RRfireblade]

6-7bps

=)

I was checking it and saw 14 I was like that isn't right, then I realized the cocker makes two sounds per trigger pull...

So yah 6-7


That's where I was off as well, nice catch. I even played it back at 1/4 real time and couldn't figure out why it didn't add up with the wave. :)

Dang cockers and physics just don't mix. :D

[barrel break]

lol, coulda sworn i was faster than that, still, stock 3wayed, guess thats pretty good

[tony3]

believe me, most people with stock cockers can't shoot over 7-8 bps

[GoatBoy]

definately faster than 5-7, I have audacity, but no idea how to do a sound analysis.

Boy, don't make me break out audacity on you! :p



I'd do it but I'm too lazy to go through whatever hoops I need to in order to pull the audio out of the .WMV. Guess I could make winamp do it for me... but looks like blazestorm's already validated my number.



How fast do you THINK you were going?


tony3: oh, now them's just fightin words now! http://homeloaf.dynip.com/~ghost/qloader/qloader1.avi <- I clocked that one at 12

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

barrel break, you need to understand that cockers werent meant to be super insanely fast. so don't be all that surprised to hear that you're only shooting 6-7bps (which isn't all that bad for a cocker)

[barrel break]

I know cockers arent that fast unless ebladed/raced

It just felt a hell of alot faster

[atm743]

i know what you mean. to me from me watching that vid. i can say 5-7 bps but after comparing it to my mag. ill have to say that my mag gose 8-10?? well if you dont want it to chop or miss feed i think its time to get a new hopper. a faster one may help you get up to 8-10 and i have see it happen before at my local shop and some kid can get a stock cocker going preaty fast!!
if only i had a video cam. and i could post how fast my ult mag can go and it can go preat fast.

I know cockers arent that fast unless ebladed/raced

It just felt a hell of alot faster

[The Action Figure]

you suck j/k but my old hinged cocker 11-12 bps over a chronograph

[Blazestorm]

Waste of paint, I shoot 3-4 with mine and kill everyone :D

[barrel break]

Blazestorm- yeah, in games i shoot bursts of 2-3, the only time I had occasion to shoot as fast as my fingers allowed was in the civil war game being charged by 50+ people, all alone :p

[Won Hunglo]

Sssssslllllloooooowwwwwww!!!!!!!!

[barrel break]

hmmm, maroon out on tippmann says he got 8.2 on the last part, and a 6.something average

[angelbeast24]

barrel break, you need to understand that cockers werent meant to be super insanely fast. so don't be all that surprised to hear that you're only shooting 6-7bps (which isn't all that bad for a cocker)




when u shoot an ebladed ff lotus that can do 18bps id say thats pretty fast
;)

[ronin]

thats slow i have a cocker ad i pul 14-15 (tested over a corno) w/ my stock hinge trigger and 3-way the trick is to adjust the trigger down to aroung 1/8" tavel .........dont try unless you want to retime and tune for the next hr. ........for the record cockers are very fast and have super recharge rates.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

when u shoot an ebladed ff lotus that can do 18bps id say thats pretty fast
;)

maybe i needed to be more specific, i was refering to his cocker (mechanical 03 cocker)
ebladed or raced cockers...well that's a different story

[Blazestorm]

E-blades make cockers sad. :cry:

[GT]

wow lots of BS in here,
I think you will be hard pressed to find very many people that get over 10bps with a mech

[tony3]

Agreed, over a 1 second period most people can't get over 10, hell, most people on electros probably cant hold 14-15 for a 1 second period without bounce.

And goatboy, notice how I said most people, not ALL peopele. :ninja:

[joez]

thats slow i have a cocker ad i pul 14-15 (tested over a corno) w/ my stock hinge trigger and 3-way the trick is to adjust the trigger down to aroung 1/8" tavel .........dont try unless you want to retime and tune for the next hr. ........for the record cockers are very fast and have super recharge rates.


14-15 :rolleyes:

Who else here wants to call complete and total BS?

[coolcatpete]

14-15 :rolleyes:

Who else here wants to call complete and total BS?
ehh I kinda belive it my friend who had a totaly stock 03 cocker was getting 13-14 over a crono and it was condidtant to, however he is terribly slow if ot slower on a electro.
Pete

[Carpecerevisi]

Trust me, Ive seen ronin rip out on that cocker...he's been shooting mechs only from the beginning and is pretty godly on a mech cocker. Ronin...we gotta get a vid...show these fools whats going on...:D


14-15 :rolleyes:

Who else here wants to call complete and total BS?

[RtDaNiMaL]

ya, i ahve shot mechs all of my life, and i am pretty fast, ask lpb. on my friends cocker 03 vert mech totally stock i was probably thinking i was getting like 15 but in reality i was probably i was only getting like 13.. and tony3 r u kiddin' me, i can walk lpb ult mag at like 14 bps no joke. and i can walk a viking at like 17 constant for like 10 seconds. i can shoot out a hopper in about 12 seconds. u can all call bs on this, but i sit in class all day walking my fingers on my desk, practicing, so my fingers are uber fast. lol :shooting:

[68magOwner]

your not doing 15bps on a mech at all, much less a cocker with a stock 3 way

[Carbon]

hats slow i have a cocker ad i pul 14-15 (tested over a corno) w/ my stock hinge trigger and 3-way the trick is to adjust the trigger down to aroung 1/8" tavel .........dont try unless you want to retime and tune for the next hr. ........for the record cockers are very fast and have super recharge rates.

Bwhahahahah! thats a good one. I laway get a kick of hearing that, especially when folks start sayin "the red chrono told me so..." On a mech cocker, dream on!

Just to let you know those red chronos lie! It doesnt count # of balls per one second of of the initial ball shot. But rather the fastest time between two shots!

[barrel break]

hehe, someone wanna give me a new 3way for my birthday? (yesterday..)

I promise, I'll video it!

[ronin]

ok still if the crono lies take a few of thr number and im still shooting around 10-12 bps. like it really mattersits still a mech and i still school a lot of people w/ $1400 :cuss: markers. the stock 3-way on a wgp cocker' is the most durable and the travel distance for it to accuate a=can get down to about 1-2 mils. so dont belive the hype on a 3-way that looks smaller(ie. bomb) becausc the travel is the same.and most of the time there because of the reduction in size they are weaker and break........ask carp. about that i had to fix 2 of his cockers because of that.

[Carbon]

Ronin, there are plenty of people who "school" people using less than a semi. Point is, get your facts straight. Dont get all defensive about by using the ol' "School people with $$$$ markers" cover, its been done to death.

Anotehr thing about 3 way. It is more than just size issue. I entails a balance of operating pressure, how well lubed your o-ring are, amount of "actuating" throw you have on the actuating rod, overall length of the Actuating rod and where you sear lug is set.

[barrel break]

what controls a three ways length ultimately is the distance of the o-rings on the actuating shaft (right word?)

[Carbon]

Barrel breaks, yes it is a combination of o-ring thickness, their distance from each other and the inlet/outlet ports on the threeway. Theoreticaly if you can have o-ring 1/32" thick, reliably seal and closer ports, it would make for a very short throw.

[ronin]

ok ... maybe im getting a little defencive ..... i am just getting hammered on this thred and i feel it a little uncalled for. you seem to know your stuff is it that unlikley that if all the elements where in order to to get the trigger oull down around 1/8th" then you could pull as fast if not faster than a lowerend electro?

btw ..... i'm really diggin on you sig-pic do you have anysimilar pics that i could use on mine?if you dont mind that is.

[Carbon]

Ronin, frealls Welcome to AO BTW. Honestly, i and most of the posters here never mean to back ya into a corner or nothing. Around AO, most people want the pudding so they can anylyze the truth. I dont doubt peopel can do 12bps on a mech, there is footage of zman rtbouncin 20 something ish and rapidfiring 16 on AO. That is proof.

Anyhow, thx in regards to my sig. Unfortunately i dont have anotehr one.

[FSU_Paintball]

I used to be really, really fast on a cocker slide trigger. Playing with mechs for 5 years will do that.

Now that I've been using an eblade for awhile I suck at slider frames :p