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matmc89
06-11-2004, 08:59 PM
hey guys im trading my angel and so far i have an offer for a 2k2 led matrix with ups or a gen x eblade with ups. i dont know much about either so i decided to let ao tell me.

p.s. i already have a mag :ninja:

gorymonkey2
06-11-2004, 09:52 PM
both of those are really good guns, depending on what upgrades they have is a big part and also which model of the ANS generation x cocker it is, if i were you i would go for the matrix, no bolt, and wicked fast, maybe it's just cause i don't like cockers but either are good, the matrix is just better

matmc89
06-11-2004, 09:57 PM
http://pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=534790

http://pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=523698

the links to both guns

RtDaNiMaL
06-11-2004, 10:05 PM
i don't hate any of those guns, but i know that if you get a cocker, and you break a part, you are screwed, because there are so many parts. Also the Matrix is ubber fast, and is really easy to clean (except for the little o rings in the bolt) but.... what ever.

P.S. in my opinion, get the matrix hands down!!!!!

Cocker= :nono:

Matrix= :clap:

-=Squid=-
06-11-2004, 10:06 PM
Get whichever one has eyes. If they both do, definitely get the trix.

68magOwner
06-11-2004, 10:08 PM
the trix, regarless of teh eyes, they dont chop and shoot nicer than almost anything, i will soon pick one up myself, just gettign to jealous of the ones at teh field

matmc89
06-11-2004, 10:09 PM
thanks everyone i think im goin with the trix. Where can i get eyes installed though?
and whats the efficiency on them, i heard it was pretty bad.

Crazy
06-11-2004, 10:59 PM
ANS blows... so go with the matrix.

68magOwner
06-11-2004, 11:02 PM
the efficecny of a trix with a bolt kit (which that one has) is great, i think nearly a case off a 68/45?

matmc89
06-11-2004, 11:30 PM
ok im gunna go with the matrix, 68magowner were you at the june 5th cpl?

Skoad
06-11-2004, 11:45 PM
Ok well if everything is working right on the matrix, as is you should expect about 750 shots off a 68/4000 tank. <--- notice 4000 psi, not 4500

Now if you add a Freeflow bolt to the red bolt kit your looking at close to 1850 shots for the tank. That is when your freeflow bolt is set up perfect. Heres a link to the bolt, probably cheaper elsewhere but heres for info http://www.thematrixcenter.com/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=&idproduct=186

Then again if you buy a C4 mod, along with the red bolt kit, and freeflow bolt your looking at 2000+ shots. Heres the c4 mod http://www.thematrixcenter.com/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=207 Of course if you want the C4 mod and not the freeflow (due to cost or availability) the C4 will add about 200 more shots, getting up to approx 950 out of it.

All off the same 68/4000 . Pretty amazing eh? All depends how much you want to spend and how much air efficiency means to you.


Sidenote: if your lucky enough to find a Evolve bolt kit, it will put you up over 2000 shots. However since they can no longer sell them in the US it is very hard to find them under 150 bucks nowadays.


All information was gathered from here http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=323142

matmc89
06-12-2004, 01:32 PM
thanks, im getting the c4 mod and maybe the bolt kit

or should i get a vision shocker with the he bolt kit?

RT pRo AuToMaG
06-12-2004, 08:52 PM
Save up a little more money and find a used matrix on pbnation.com with eyes and mods on it. A really nice and very efficient trix with eyes will probaly run you about $750, and if you buy that led, you will probably end up spending more than that after you add stuff to the gun. Other than that, go for the trix over the cocker.

Fade
06-13-2004, 12:39 AM
Go for the Matrix! They rip nice, and if they come with ups, thats 1/2 the battle gone!