Guns are good... work on paint...

[Voloo]

With so many good paintball companies out there all competing for the most BPS or best "eye" or lightest, or whatever... They have lost fosus on what these guns are actually shooting... THE PAINT... paint today is fairly expensive... feild paint is like 55 bucks wich makes me play paintball less each month... If companies were to stop workin on the best guns and start working on better/cheaper paint i suspect they would make loads more money if they could find a way to do this because paint is always in demand and would probably bring in more funds than the guns... people only need 1 gun (unless your a rich spoild little brat who has his parents buy their gun(s) ) but you aways need paint for everytime you play with your gun... this topis is touched upon here (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144329) but I thought I would bring it into its own thread ... as you might see at least a few people are playing paintball less and less because of the paint money... my advice... make cheaper paint and stop making better (more expensive, I might add) guns...

[Brophog]

The paint is cheap. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see it go slightly higher in the next few years.

Now, if you're talking quality, then you have a valid argument. Without totally scrapping what we have now, I'm not really sure if the quality can be improved much. One of the biggest things holding it back is directly tied to impact speeds, which is a safety element, and therefore not likely to be changed.

[_tMAN]

Paint is really not cheap.
but I doubt the companies will loose all their money by making it cheaper. They know everyone has to buy it, so why make it cheap?

[LeatherPants]

Paint IS cheaper. You mush have just started playing paintball to not know that paint used to be over $100 a case and pretty bad quality.

Like any sport or hobby if you can't afford it then you shouldn't be playing.

[Skoad]

my friend always says "why doesn't a barrel company make paint to fit that barrel"

[Brophog]

If you knew anything about how sales work, you'd know paint is cheap!

Consider there are generally three people that need to make money off of that case of paint:

Manufacturer
Wholesaler
Field Owner.


SHOOT LESS PAINT. Paintball doesn't have to be expensive, you make it that way.

[WARPED1]

With so many good paintball companies out there all competing for the most BPS or best "eye" or lightest, or whatever... They have lost fosus on what these guns are actually shooting... THE PAINT... paint today is fairly expensive... feild paint is like 55 bucks wich makes me play paintball less each month... If companies were to stop workin on the best guns and start working on better/cheaper paint i suspect they would make loads more money if they could find a way to do this because paint is always in demand and would probably bring in more funds than the guns... people only need 1 gun (unless your a rich spoild little brat who has his parents buy their gun(s) ) but you aways need paint for everytime you play with your gun... this topis is touched upon here (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144329) but I thought I would bring it into its own thread ... as you might see at least a few people are playing paintball less and less because of the paint money... my advice... make cheaper paint and stop making better (more expensive, I might add) guns...
YOU N00B! You think $55 a case is expensive?! It used to be $120 a case!

[JimmyBeam]

IMO i think the more companies that start producing diferent paint will competatively drive the prices down. i think 30-40 bucks for decent everyday usage paint is decent, sure your going to spend more on tourny day for the good stuff, but the need for inexpensive everyday paint is going up.

[LeatherPants]

YOU N00B! You think $55 a case is expensive?! It used to be $120 a case!


Actually if you think about how many papers he has to deliver it's a fortune.

[Lohman446]

With so many good paintball companies out there all competing for the most BPS or best "eye" or lightest, or whatever... They have lost fosus on what these guns are actually shooting... THE PAINT... paint today is fairly expensive... feild paint is like 55 bucks wich makes me play paintball less each month... If companies were to stop workin on the best guns and start working on better/cheaper paint i suspect they would make loads more money if they could find a way to do this because paint is always in demand and would probably bring in more funds than the guns... people only need 1 gun (unless your a rich spoild little brat who has his parents buy their gun(s) ) but you aways need paint for everytime you play with your gun... this topis is touched upon here (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144329) but I thought I would bring it into its own thread ... as you might see at least a few people are playing paintball less and less because of the paint money... my advice... make cheaper paint and stop making better (more expensive, I might add) guns...


Your wrong on the markers - first off I expect that there is decent profit in them, it may cost a bit more to make a DM4 than it does an Impulse, but not $800 more. When we went to Chicago those of us that bougt new markers did nto do it because we were spoled little brats who have their parents buy their guns. We did it because we all have jobs, and should we want a new marker we can buy it. We're going to shoot paint, regardless of the cost (in reason) and companies can make better profit on a marker. Yes I only need 1 gun... but what about an Angel to dissassemble and see how it works, or a Timmy, or a Sydarm, or :) yeh I love my mag, but sometimes its fun to have other things to toy with.

[AGDlover]

ok guy ya kinda have to think back when back in the day everything was dirt cheep and as time passed prices grew so thats what is going to happen as time goes on prices will go up.

[JKR]

SHOOT LESS PAINT. Paintball doesn't have to be expensive, you make it that way.


Yeah, what he said...

I played with my Sniper II today--18 elims (2 surrenders) and about 300 yellow Evil balls used.

I actually want to pay more for paint. But by paying more I want better quality, better weather tolerance, longer shelf life and consistency on par with bullets in the firearms industry.

[LeatherPants]

Normally I'm a back player so to compensate I'm turning one of my spare cockers into a Sniper II.

Like JKR I'm all about good paint. Nothing beats playing pump shooting Ultimate Chronic. One ball, breaks, no wipes.

[WARPED1]

$1.50 a tube of 10 when I first started............

[LeatherPants]

$1.50 a tube of 10 when I first started............


Which would make it what? $300 for 2000. So who says paint is more expensive now?

[Steelrat]

I remember when a case of marbs was about $120-140. Sure, it was 2500 balls, but still...

However, with the VM-68 I had at the time, I wasnt putting out quite as much paint as I am with my vikings and excaliburs ;)

[WARPED1]

I was making a point how expensive paint used to be.

[LeatherPants]

I was making a point how expensive paint used to be.

I know man. Sorry guess that didn't come out right. I was doing the math for those people who think paint is expensive now.

[MagAl]

YOU N00B! You think $55 a case is expensive?! It used to be $120 a case!

Do to the very little amount of fields in the area I live, nearest place (around 45 mins away) it cost me 100 a case, which sucks and is why I mostly play on BYOP days and etc... after that, second closest is around 2 hours away paint cost around $ 75-85, third.. the same

[spacedtedybear]

Yeah, I remember those $100-120 cases of 2500 where you can basically scoop in your pod or hopper. Of course back then, I was playing with an sl-68. I think competition between brands and companies is also what helps drive the price down.

[BeaverEater]

I dont think paint prices are that bad I can find "everyday" paint for abot 30 bucks for 2000. I usually shoot paint thats about 50 bucks a case and I think its not too bad. I can usually play 3 times or so on one case of paint, and so thats only about 15 bucks for many hours of fun.

[The Action Figure]

paint is way cheaper now than it used to be I remember buying 100 paintballs for 10 dollars and thinking I would never... ever use this much paint. with the electros today its harder and harder no to shoot that much

[AnArchist_1944]

paint is not cheap its over $130 a case here at the feild. we get it sponsored to us at $100 or sometimes $80 a case which is very cheap

thats why i built my mech mag it only tops out a 10-11bps but i have extreme accuraccy because i dont have that kind money for paint.

[LeatherPants]

paint is not cheap its over $130 a case here at the feild. we get it sponsored to us at $100 or sometimes $80 a case which is very cheap

thats why i built my mech mag it only tops out a 10-11bps but i have extreme accuraccy because i dont have that kind money for paint.


Hello eh. We're talking aboot US Dollars eh.

[AnArchist_1944]

well i dont live in the states so thats the price i pay and its expensive......nuff said

[coolcatpete]

well sure paint is cheaper now, but back in the day you did not have the fire power. So you were paying just as much for a day of paintball. What I am saying is that the faster we can shoot the lower the prices will be. I f you compare how we now buy paint to how they did back in the day it would be like buying in bulf which is cheaper so... the nicer and fater our markers are the cheaper paint will get.<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_1_102.gif' border=0></a>
Pete

[LeatherPants]

well i dont live in the states so thats the price i pay and its expensive......nuff said

And converting your prices paint was STILL more expensive then compared to what you pay now.

[penguinpunk555]

I think 55 a case is unholy cheap. I am lucky if I can find that at fields.

[AnArchist_1944]

iam still paying $98USD so thats still expensivve comapred to some of you lucky bastards that are paying $55

[Destructo6]

Paint IS cheaper. You mush have just started playing paintball to not know that paint used to be over $100 a case and pretty bad quality.
Just because it was insanely expensive ten years ago doesn't make $75 dirt cheap today. And, yes, I was playing in the early 1990s.

I don't see why it would cost more than .22lr ammo, say $10/500.

[FSU_Paintball]

Paint is expensive. It's about the same price as when I started playing about 6 years ago. Wholesale on some of the cheap stuff (like recsport) is about $13/case for some people. Then they turn around and sell it for $50. Yeah, that's expensive. And I can't honestly believe that there's a $20 difference per box in manufacturing prices between the cheap stuff and the good stuff.

Paint is too expensive for what it is. I'm not debating that it's cheaper than it was 10 years ago, but come on.... they've had 10 years to make paint cheap to players. Not to mention, there's SO MUCH of it being sold these days... there's no reason other than them wanting to buttrape players for extra bucks.