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Snowball
07-25-2004, 05:18 PM
Me and a buddy of mine have almost the same gun..mine is a minimag w/x-valve and his is a 68 classic w/x-valve...he gets mad bounce at about 800-850psi. and i can't get mine to go until about 1100-1200psi..what could be the difference..i use a hp max-flo and he has a air america apocalypse...any help would be great...

Snowball
07-25-2004, 08:05 PM
up

AGDlover
07-25-2004, 08:56 PM
no 2 mags are the same

Rift
07-25-2004, 09:04 PM
same thing gose witht he tanks some tanks are more reactive then others thats probably why theres that difference

WickeDKlowN
07-26-2004, 03:40 AM
Differen't guns have difeent tolerences. And different LX setups could affect it too.

Snowball
07-26-2004, 05:07 AM
i understand their not the same...we switched tanks,back half of regs.,and on/offs but i still have no reactivity....

dahoeb
07-26-2004, 08:47 AM
i had the same experience with my xvalve, compared with my friends original rt valve in his rt pro. i thought his was more reactive. BUT after i played with my xvalve for a while, and it broke in after a few cases, there was no longer any difference in the reactiveness

Snowball
07-26-2004, 08:37 PM
my valve is about 4 months older than his is and has seen more paint than his also...

ß?µ£ §mµ®ƒ
07-26-2004, 08:48 PM
How many bottles of oil have you put in your gun? :p

Snowball
07-26-2004, 08:49 PM
about 1.5

P8ntBallBoom
07-27-2004, 12:02 AM
Mags + oil = low maintence gun that RIPS!!!

Snowball
07-28-2004, 06:00 PM
any other sugestions

Z-man
07-28-2004, 08:35 PM
If you have the time and tools you could scope out the on/off pins and the length of the sear trigger rod on each marker. Also see what happens when you swap tanks. No 2 Mags are alike yes, but no 2 tank regs behave the same at <insert the number you think is the right psi> psi. 800psi on a preset is nothing like 800psi on a Dynaflow is nothing like 800psi on a Max-flo etc...

Snowball
07-28-2004, 08:50 PM
we switched everything we could think of from body to valve internals still nothing with mine...does anyone have a pic of what the on/off pin should look like if u take the valve halves apart...with his i can see two of the holes and on mine i can only see 1 of them..not sure if that would do it or not though cause we switched on/offs and still got nothing...i'm stumped...

nobel12
07-28-2004, 08:51 PM
tapping the thin end of the on / off pin on the side of a dremel cut off wheel does wonders for bounce. It doesnt take much!!!!!

Snowball
08-11-2004, 11:40 AM
up again...still having issues

abunkerer
08-11-2004, 11:49 AM
put the shortest spring in and crank your velocity up to nearly 300fps and your inpt pressure up to 1000psi. that should do it.

NJPaint
08-11-2004, 08:39 PM
up again...still having issues

Okay these things will affect bounce:

Input Pressure from Tank
On/Off Pin Size
Power tube setup
How well broken in the setup is
How well oiled said systems are

I would check the pin sizes, that will definately make a huge difference.