Goin for the ultimate lightweight mech mag...whadya think?

[jwalker87]

So I'm trying to make an uber-ultralight automag. Here's my current list:

warp-right ULE body
wingless roguerail
rogue vert. frame
x-valve w/ ULT
Stiffi barrel (not sure of length yet)
qloader
CenterFlag or NitroDuck 45/4500 tank.
maybe a drop, i dunno. I'll see when I put it together


So, whadya think? The only think I'm unsure of is the mounting of the qloader. Right now, on my micromag, I have it under the barrel. That works well, but it means my gun is LONG (same length as a 14" barrel). I want a shorter gun, so I might check out the Custom Mount qloader is coming out with this week and see how that works. In that case, I'd probably get a 10" barrel, or maybe 12". As far as the tank goes, I'm looking for pretty much the lightest I can get. I was told that flatlines, nitroduck, and CenterFlag are all very light. I can find the NitroDuck tanks, but I can't find CenterFlag anywhere. Anyone know where I can get one? www.paintballgear.com has the tank regs, but no tanks...?

[bokraham]

centerflag tanks can be found at www.paintballgearoutlet.com and www.bradyspaintball.com

[guysdaman]

You might want to consider a rail + on/off combo instead of a drop. You could possible save a little weight going that route but I guess it would depend on how big of a drop you planned on getting. Either way it sounds like a nice setup!

[AGDlover]

The ULE warp Right body may be a little tricky to find but i do believe ClassicMagger has a coupple

[jwalker87]

yep I just bought one from ClassicMagger yesterday. As far as the drop goes, I don't know what I'm going to get. My current setup is a Maxflo bolted right to the frame. Then again, it is a Maxflo, so it doesnt stick back very far. I just don't know.

Also, I need the qloader CMS (custom mounting system)! I want to mount the qloader somewhere other than under the barrel so I can get a shorter barrel (with the q under barrel, it's the same length as a 14"). THanks for the advice.

[craltal]

you didn't mention what trigger frame you're going to use. for weight, you can't beat the carbon fiber frames by AGD.

[jwalker87]

frame? Rogue vert. frame. Then, eventually, the Hair Trigger. Not only is this going to be insanely light, it's going to be insanely fast too, with no batteries.

[Ohms Law]

Let us know what the total weight is (gun only) when you get it completed.

[jwalker87]

i will. It'll be probably a month, maybe a month and a half. I just depleted my bank account on the rail, body, frame and valve. :(

[jknospe]

Check out Q-Loader Tech Thread (http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=448408&highlight=%2Bqloader). A couple pictures in there you maybe interested in.

Personally, I like FutureMagOwner's setup. See his marker on the Z-man's (New) Mag Gallery (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=145176&page=2&pp=30). It looks like a warp mount with an ASA adapter mounted on it. Ingenious!

[jwalker87]

ooh, thanks!

Ive seen the Universal Mounts before; where can I get one? qloader doesnt make them.

[jknospe]

The Warp Mount (http://store.airgun.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=53&categoryID=19) is used to mount a warp feed system. And I believe its a Vertical ASA Adapter (http://store.airgun.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=383&categoryID=16) mounted on the end. Its using a standard Q-Loader mount. Q-Loader has a custom mounting socket (http://www.qloader.com/products/upgrades.html) available. But I'm not sure what it is or how it mounts differently; picture is too small to even see what you get.

On the top of the marker, he's using a 90 Degree Warp Adapter (http://store.airgun.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=65&categoryID=19) with a power feed plug (http://store.airgun.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=66&categoryID=19) installed. If you have a standard feed neck, you probably do not need the warp adapter.

[jwalker87]

thanks. im going to see if I can pick up a warp mount.

[jknospe]

Welcome... good luck. Post some pics, I want to see your setup when its done.

[jwalker87]

i just bought a warp mount and the 90* feed tube thing. I was looking at my qloader tube on my micromag, and if I get the 90* elbow for the warp-right body, it will be really tight. Im leaving for a week's vacation tomorrow, so hopefully everything will be here when I get back!

[anarchistwar]

i'm gonna do the same thing, but with a warp left, a Y-grip and a remote line...

[jewie27]

You forgot the mention the hAir trigger.....

[Battlewear]

Hey there..

Just thought I would add a quick question..

I just recently bought a stock minimag... I love it and will never get rid of it, but recently my friends have started buying newer markers that are so much lighter...

I would like to lighten my mag, where should I start?
I have seen the odd post about people talking about Carbon fiber rails and such, just wondering if I should be looking at something like that or a ULE body or different Valve or what?

Sorry to hijack the thread, that is not my goal!!

[jwalker87]

no, its fine. Glad I can help! I would go for the ULE body first. It makes a DRASTIC difference, especially with the led-weight minimag body. The rail doesnt make THAT big of a difference, but an x-valve is considerably lighter than the Retro. If you already have a ReTro valve, I wouldn't spend the extra money to upgrade, but if you're running a classic, then getting the lvl 10, x-valve speed and lightness would by far be worth it.